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I’ve seen the spy shots as much as everyone else but were they not just test mules for the Speedster?
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Thus I can’t really use a cab on a track for instance in a way that fully accesses its capability.
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Speedsters are ok for California where it never rains, but make use harder in UK/Europe.
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I’ve seen the spy shots as much as everyone else but were they not just test mules for the Speedster?
I can’t see the point in a GT3 cabriolet (well I can as but bare with me…) when they could market it as a Speedster with a funky rear clamshell and a price that eclipses the S/T.
Open top as well so all the car spotters can ogle your horrendously coloured CCX Sonderwunsch abominations at the local cars and coffee (and your willingness to spunk £100k on options just because you can).
Why the hate. They made the Speedster which is a GT3 Cab with a difficult roof. Speedsters are ok for California where it never rains, but make use harder in UK/Europe. A proper Cab roof would be much more usable, at the expense of only about 50-60kg aka a full tank of petrol.
Guyr said:
Why the hate.
No hate from me, I can certainly see the appeal I just think Porsche like the margins on the specials. Why sell a Cabriolet for circa £10k more than a GT3 Coupe when you can sell a Speedster for £100k more?
John D. said:
Hopefully they won't call it a GT3 cab. Not very motorsport is it?
The interesting point in that is what is a GT3?
For me, it’s the road going homologation of the GT3 Cup and all the cars that go above it.
They still sort of are that engine wise, I guess in years gone past a Carrera RS was really an evolution of the standard Carrera and the Cup cars and RSRs an evolution of those.
Is a GT3 now (if we consider it a Clubsport, a 4 seat Touring, an RS and maybe now a Cabriolet and special edition like S/T and Speedster) now just the original idea of a naturally aspirated 911?
Not for me . I have some GT3RS models but when it comes to a convertible I drive a sedate old Mercedes SL500. I tried cab years ago but driving it very quickly was an unpleasant noisy uncomfortable experience . Thus I can’t really use a cab on a track for instance in a way that fully accesses its capability. I can see something like a Morgan which is more about a drive in the country but I would not want an open GT variant.
PRO5T said:
John D. said:
Hopefully they won't call it a GT3 cab. Not very motorsport is it?
The interesting point in that is what is a GT3?
For me, it s the road going homologation of the GT3 Cup and all the cars that go above it.
They still sort of are that engine wise, I guess in years gone past a Carrera RS was really an evolution of the standard Carrera and the Cup cars and RSRs an evolution of those.
Is a GT3 now (if we consider it a Clubsport, a 4 seat Touring, an RS and maybe now a Cabriolet and special edition like S/T and Speedster) now just the original idea of a naturally aspirated 911?
That's my point. I like the homogolation connection with the GT3 name. Appreciate a 4 seater without the wings etc is very desirable and a great car, and the Touring doesn't bother me at all. A GT3 Cab is a step too far though
PRO5T said:
The interesting point in that is what is a GT3?
For me, it s the road going homologation of the GT3 Cup and all the cars that go above it.
They still sort of are that engine wise, I guess in years gone past a Carrera RS was really an evolution of the standard Carrera and the Cup cars and RSRs an evolution of those.
Is a GT3 now (if we consider it a Clubsport, a 4 seat Touring, an RS and maybe now a Cabriolet and special edition like S/T and Speedster) now just the original idea of a naturally aspirated 911?
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I've always thought that the GT3 started as a continuation of the NA Mezger engined 911s following Porsche putting the cheaper chocolate M96 3.4 litre motors into the new NA 996s. Prior to the 996 all 911s had the Mezger which by the 90s was pretty much race tested and reliable but obviously they decided it was overkill and too expensive for the NA 911s going forward cue the GT3 which developed the Mezger further and satisfied those who enjoyed the older style rawer NA 911 experience.
Going forward they devloped the current style GT3 lump which had its well documented issues but has evloved nicely and is distinctly different to the regular Carrera powertrain. It always amuses me how some people consider the GT3 harsh where for me they just carry on in the older (NA Mezger) era's footsteps where this "harshness" was a specific feature of a sportscar.
PRO5T said:
The interesting point in that is what is a GT3?
For me, it s the road going homologation of the GT3 Cup and all the cars that go above it.
They still sort of are that engine wise, I guess in years gone past a Carrera RS was really an evolution of the standard Carrera and the Cup cars and RSRs an evolution of those.
Is a GT3 now (if we consider it a Clubsport, a 4 seat Touring, an RS and maybe now a Cabriolet and special edition like S/T and Speedster) now just the original idea of a naturally aspirated 911?
Yep. I do agree and have been saying this for a while.
Googlin said:
The term GT3 should really be confined to close relatives of the cup cars.
I d go as far as to say you should have a cage and bucket seats to be a GT3, everything else should be a GT or GTS or something.
A GT3 touring seems a bit of an oxymoron to me!
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Over over under steer said:
A GT3 Cab would be the perfect car for me.
Same for me, can not think of a better car to drive on these roads, than if it were a Cab. With the 4.0 NA engine in a road car, road tune chassis, damping, steering etc.
Edited by APOLO1 on Friday 13th March 13:53
ultimately a gt3 is anything that porsche decide to stick the badge on whether or not people are being precious about it. if that causes people to be so upset that
their
car's badge is stuck on an 'unworthy' car, it's entirely in their ability to sell their car in a huff having been sullied I suppose.....
I mean, they are sticking a Turbo badge on an electric car, so calling a cab a GT3 is not that surprising. They are just names for marketing purposes nowadays, the original meaning is pretty much meaningless nowadays.
MDL111 said:
I mean, they are sticking a Turbo badge on an electric car, so calling a cab a GT3 is not that surprising. They are just names for marketing purposes nowadays, the original meaning is pretty much meaningless nowadays.
Sadly true.
I totally understand the joke/ comment about a 3RS cab. Having owned several 3RS, it has to be the ultimate track GT car.
And I would have said so of the GT3 until a) I experienced the RS alongside GT3s and b) the GT3 Touring.
The latter makes me consider the GT3 Cab very seriously as a great special weekend B road or European trip car. Having driven a few Boxster and missed (what a heartbreak then!) on the 991 Speedster, the ownership of a GT3 Cab is very appealing. Let’s see what the revealed product ends up to be! When is it!
The thing for me is (as I posted earlier in the thread), if indeed it is a GT3 Cabriolet and not a Speedster is where they're going to position it in the line up. Standard Porsche tariff says it's going to be minimum £10k more than a GT3 so even if you go for a relatively light spec it'll be approaching...lets say £185k with a few bits on it.
RS Spyder Boxster are readily available for £135k (and even less outside the network), of course a GT3 will always be more sought after than a Boxster but would it be a better car for all your extra dosh? I could see if it was something you
really
wanted as a bit of a forever car it would end up costing more like £200k. That sounds like a lot to me.
It should be a Speedster, complete with lower windscreen. That is all.
"GT3 cabriolet" 'feels' oxymoronic to me
And that doesn't make sense even to me, as I have non problem with a "GT3 Touring"...as that too is a bit contradictory.
I think Porsche are slowly moving away from what I want/respect, what with "Turbo" EVs and a huge mass of family cars with the odd sport/supercar...
I grew up with brochures full of 924, 944, 928, 911
THATS a range of Porsches
Its a shame soo much time and energy is spent on discussing the nomenclature of the incoming cabriolet instead of what the car will actually be. The thrills and spills of a manual high revving GT3 in convertible form sounds very appealing to me.
I have a manual. 2 touring atm and it's one of the best porsches I've owned (I've owned a fair few). I didn't get an allocation for the last Speedster so I bought one at overs and what a car. If this one is anything like it, we are in for a treat regardless of its designation
23wn_4f2 said:
Its a shame soo much time and energy is spent on discussing the nomenclature of the incoming cabriolet instead of what the car will actually be. The thrills and spills of a manual high revving GT3 in convertible form sounds very appealing to me.
I have a manual. 2 touring atm and it's one of the best porsches I've owned (I've owned a fair few). I didn't get an allocation for the last Speedster so I bought one at overs and what a car. If this one is anything like it, we are in for a treat regardless of its designation
Fully agree with you. And respect everyone’s opinion too. We all come from a place of passion after all! But if an allocation comes,
I am definitely taking the GT3 cab!
Porsche don't tend to mess up the car, in what it does and how it does it.
They provide a niche to accommodate most/all types of sports car..
Whats left to discuss is normally design and nomenclature...
23wn_4f2 said:
Its a shame soo much time and energy is spent on discussing the nomenclature of the incoming cabriolet instead of what the car will actually be. The thrills and spills of a manual high revving GT3 in convertible form sounds very appealing to me.
I have a manual. 2 touring atm and it's one of the best porsches I've owned (I've owned a fair few). I didn't get an allocation for the last Speedster so I bought one at overs and what a car. If this one is anything like it, we are in for a treat regardless of its designation
but what is there to discuss in terms of what the car will actually be? It will be a GT3 Touring without the roof ....
I have a 911 cabriolet which I have always used as a GT car - for touring in.
I've always thought a GT3 was a bit more of a track-focussed car and too firm for long distance comfort.
However, there's a 911 for everyone, which I guess is a good thing.
Be interesting to see if they can engineer the double wishbone from the GT3 in a cab body, or if it's going to be more of a 991/718 front axle set up to account for any loss of strength.
Seen roaming the streets of Stuttgart:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DV3zD8cjKzq/
When I picked my car up last week, my dealer said that it's been intimated internally that this will be a very strictly limited car, and not every UK dealer is likely to get one. How true that is, time will tell.
kmpowell said:
Seen roaming the streets of Stuttgart:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DV3zD8cjKzq/
When I picked my car up last week, my dealer said that it's been intimated internally that this will be a very strictly limited car, and not every UK dealer is likely to get one. How true that is, time will tell.
I was test driving (and buying!) another porsche at the weekend from an OPC in the Midlands. Sales person actually brought up the GT3 cab and said they were only currently being allocated a single car.
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