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I've just bought a 2006 997.1 and wanted to know what the best options for upgrading: Exhaust from standard (non PSE) Short shifter Steering wheel Sat nav / radio Thanks James

Jamesroden said: I've just bought a 2006 997.1 and wanted to know what the best options for upgrading: Exhaust from standard (non PSE) Short shifter Steering wheel Sat nav / radio Thanks James Go OEM with PSE (including the button in the centre console) Short Shift and the PCCM+ radio. Stay OEM.

Thanks that’s very helpful

Jamesroden said: Thanks that s very helpful and then steering wheel wise you could go for the Gen 2 997 Turbo, GT2, GT3, RS wheel..... part number 997.347.803.71A34 comes in all black .... https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/... ...or grey/black https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/317812777804 Some people upgrade to this Sports Design wheel but it looks a bit period incorrect in my opinion. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/177927383398

Jamesroden said: Thanks that s very helpful Before you get too carried away with JtC's somewhat questionable suggestions, it would be good to know the history of the "big ticket" items on the car you've bought. So let's kick off with the mileage ? Has the engine been borescoped ? If the results were good, has been rebuilt ? IMS bearing original or upgraded ? Suspension overhauled/upgraded or still original ? Tyres less than 3-4 years old ? Coolant pipes original or replaced ? Clutch original or replaced ? Tandem pump, water pump, radiators, A/C condensors original or replaced ?

errrr how can OEM be questionable?

Jones the cat said: errrr how can OEM be questionable? Have you paid for a factory OEM 997.1 PSE recently ? Or footed the bill for the removal of an existing non -PSE system, fitting the new PSE system and installing the wiring /plumbing required for it ? Do you know the OP's use profile ? Have you driven a 997.1 with a factory short shift kit fitted on a cold morning ? All well and good making cretinous suggestions, maybe try establishing some pertinent information first.

Briefly: Standard refresh stuff: Millers NT+ 10w50 oil recommended by hartech Mobil PTX gearbox fluid. Hard to source but makes a world of difference to cold shifts. Fresh Bilstein B4s (oem) and suspension, then a DSC controller (aftermarket, makes the damptronic respond far better, still on my list due to keeping a cap on spends but I’ve only ever heard good things) Eibach Pro progressive springs, lower it slightly and most perceive a slight improvement in ride, win win New engine mounts if they’ve never been changed, really tightens up the rear end and gear shift. Popular aftermarket stuff Alex Yates short shifter (better than OEM GT3) - purchase by messaging him on 911uk SCR developments for speaker upgrades PCCM+ is simultaneously loved and hated - it’s OEM level finish, but flawed for the money. Personally I like the 7862 128/256gb+ Heregoes/Owtowsin headunit (not the cheaper versions lower spec which don’t have community support) Gundo hack standard exhaust mimics PSE always open without the low speed closed valve behaviour of a PSE. Lots of aftermarket stainless options like top gear, x pipes are popular but move the power band further up the rev range slightly. 350mm disk upgrade with caliper spacers

Slippydiff said: Jones the cat said: errrr how can OEM be questionable? Have you paid for a factory OEM 997.1 PSE recently ? Or footed the bill for the removal of an existing non -PSE system, fitting the new PSE system and installing the wiring /plumbing required for it ? Do you know the OP's use profile ? Have you driven a 997.1 with a factory short shift kit fitted on a cold morning ? All well and good making cretinous suggestions, maybe try establishing some pertinent information first. I thought he just replied to the specifics asked with some OEM suggestions, I don't think that is the worst advice in the world. There was no budget given, so that is a different story. I have a Momo, I like it, but obviously no airbag.

Jamesroden said: I've just bought a 2006 997.1 and wanted to know what the best options for upgrading: Exhaust from standard (non PSE) Short shifter Steering wheel Sat nav / radio Thanks James Gundo hack for the exhaust Ali Express Radio (Apple Car Play/Android Auto) Don't waste money on the rest of your list - get the alignment done and learn how to drive the car. Enjoy.

MDL111 said: I thought he just replied to the specifics asked with some OEM suggestions, I don't think that is the worst advice in the world. There was no budget given, so that is a different story. I have a Momo, I like it, but obviously no airbag. I know you're made out of money M But £5200 (Design911 price, so a Porsche Club GB discount would get you 10% off) plus removal of the existing system, fitment of the new system AND the plumbing in of the pipe work for the valves and installation of the wiring and switch on the dash is a tone-consuming undertaking. I can't think many owners of 20 year old cars costing £25K would be queueing up to buy an exhaust that'll cost £6k installed. Especially when there are numerous aftermarket alternatives that are far cheaper. But my original questions still stand. Before spending money on upgrades, it's far better to ensure all the usual 997 issues have been addressed.

Slippydiff said: Have you paid for a factory OEM 997.1 PSE recently ? Or footed the bill for the removal of an existing non -PSE system, fitting the new PSE system and installing the wiring /plumbing required for it ? Do you know the OP's use profile ? Have you driven a 997.1 with a factory short shift kit fitted on a cold morning ? All well and good making cretinous suggestions, maybe try establishing some pertinent information first. Blimey.

Slippydiff said: I know you're made out of money M But £5200 (Design911 price, so a Porsche Club GB discount would get you 10% off) plus removal of the existing system, fitment of the new system AND the plumbing in of the pipe work for the valves and installation of the wiring and switch on the dash is a tone-consuming undertaking. I can't think many owners of 20 year old cars costing £25K would be queueing up to buy an exhaust that'll cost £6k installed. Especially when there are numerous aftermarket alternatives that are far cheaper. But my original questions still stand. Before spending money on upgrades, it's far better to ensure all the usual 997 issues have been addressed. I wish I was That does sound slightly insane - I would want something much more special if I spent that much on an exhaust. Assuming the car is mechanically sound, I would first look at the suspension and get it refreshed or something new set up to my liking (depending on use case for the car).

Jones the cat said: Blimey. Strangely enough J, that's precisely what I thought when I saw you were advocating spending what amounts to £7+K on some upgrades on 20 year old car ...

Thats a silly price. You can get a low miles 997.1 PSE full kit on eBay for about £500. Spend £100 then getting it ice blasted. £100 for the dash button upgrade. There is no way its going to cost a further £4K+ to get fitted.

Jones the cat said: Thats a silly price. Yeh, I know it's incredible what new parts for 20 year old cars cost. I pluck them out of thin air just for the fun of it. https://www.design911.co.uk/p/exhaust-muffler---si... Jones the cat said: You can get a low miles 997.1 PSE full kit on eBay for about £500. Spend £100 then getting it ice blasted. £100 for the dash button upgrade. There is no way it's going to cost a further £4K+ to get fitted. Oh I see, the goalposts have conveniently been moved to enable you to make your point, I wasn't aware the OP was up for buying used stuff off EBay. If that's the case, as others have said, he may as well just Gundo hack the silencers on his car, slap in a £35 short shift off EBay, and fit a Mountney steering wheel.

The car has had full hartech engine rebuild and suspension refresh. Is the Dansk sports exhaust a good option if Porsche PSE is a little expensive? Thanks for the input

I had the Dansk Sports Sound exhaust fitted to my 997.1 late last year. With the original exhaust approaching 19 years old it had started to corrode split on the silencer seams. The Dansk is deeper than standard and a little louder but without being boomy in the cabin. I'm very pleased with it.

Be careful with the Dansk exhaust, they have 3 different versions that all sound the same name wise. The Dansk "Super Sport" is ridiculously loud, and drones like a mother in law on doing speed for the first time around 2500-3500 rpm.

We have a few 997.1 C2S cars. They are great cars in their own right as standard. Whatever you spend on modifications, I would recommend starting with a bore score check before you go spending lots of money, which is easily done. We will be heavily modifying an ultra rare Olive green car soon

Ed.Neumann said: Be careful with the Dansk exhaust, they have 3 different versions that all sound the same name wise. The Dansk "Super Sport" is ridiculously loud, and drones like a mother in law on doing speed for the first time around 2500-3500 rpm. Yes the Dansk is best used only on setting 1, they are excellent quality, and good value- but can be too loud for most on the most open settings. Unless you like that sort of thing.

There are 3 systems. Sport. Super Sound. Sport - with adjustable sound valves. The sport is a bit more aggressive than stock, but does drone a bit. The Super Sound is just ridiculously loud and drones on like an ex wife on coke. The Sport with valves seems to get better reviews, like the sport but can be put into a quieter mode with less drone when you are not in the mood.