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YOUR RESEARCH996 turbo or GT3 mark 1 - cant decide which.
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The intercooler pipes showed signs of degradation at last service - hence advised to replace before they became any worse.
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Sorry to hear of your turbo running costs, Sniper.
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You do not clarify the size of fortune it took to run each year, but mine has only cost about £500 per annum overall (60 thou miles now), and part of that was my fault for not exercising it enough (brake corrosion etc).
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You do not clarify the size of fortune it took to run each year, but mine has only cost about £500 per annum overall (60 thou miles now), and part of that was my fault for not exercising it enough (brake corrosion etc).
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Have a 993 turbo - had for 3 years now. Looking to change. Cant decide between a 996 turbo or GT3 mark 1. Budget around £50K.
Wont be doing any trackdays - and will be using the car everyday covering around 10k miles per year. The 993TT has cost a forutne to run - mainly in servicing costs and repairs. Any suggestions on 996 turbo or GT3. I guess the GT3 will depreciate less - but what are the running costs of both cars. Any comments would be appreciated.
Cheers, Sniper
Sorry to hear of your turbo running costs, Sniper. You do not clarify the size of fortune it took to run each year, but mine has only cost about £500 per annum overall (60 thou miles now), and part of that was my fault for not exercising it enough (brake corrosion etc). I reckon those costs are pretty reasonable in the circumstances.
Cannot see the point in a GT3 if you do not track it - it is after all what it's for.
As for the 996 range, I have heard and read too much negative comment to contemplate such a purchase.
Having now opened up a very large can of worms I shall now retire gracefully.
nb we dedicated aircoolers will do anything to keep a colleague in the fold.
JohnC
993turbo
Wont you elaborate on your running costs?? I was planning to upgrade to a TT but my 996C2 has cost me nothing so far in nearly 3 years so you have worried me now.
911 and Porsche World had an article last month I think it was on just this comparison I seem to remember. Concluded the 996TT was ultimate road car, GT3 ultimate track car. I know which one I'd go for.
Nice dilemma to have tho. Good luck.
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Neil
If you're going to just use it on the road, get the TT.
That's what it is for.
More suspension compliance makes for better less nervous progress on poorly surfaced roads.
More mid range torque makes it easier to use the performance in the real world where you aren't always at the top of the rev range.
Plus you get 4-wd, traction control and stability management so you can chuck it about without worrying (within reason of course) even in the wet, snow, frost, etc.
However, they offer very different driving experiences.
A turbo car is not the same as a non-turbo car.
It seems you either "get" the TT, or you don't. Some people seem to be left cold by it.
Fortune's are relative though.
Sniper, test drive them both and decide for yourself, one mans meat & all that! For me the 996TT makes best sense for a daily drive, but the GT3 is a fabulous drivers car. With the TT the biggest cost is likely to be depreciation, so best go for something around the 02 mark, these are now selling for around 40k less than original optioned list (£55k-ish ouch!) it's an awfull lot of car for the money and despite what some say is still a great drivers car.
Can't decide?? Nice problem to have you lucky thing. I had a lap of the Nurburgring in a GT3 and the sound it made was absolutely amazing, of course, the turbo will never make a sound like that because the turbos take away all the exhaust notes (shame) but you do get that big punch in the back of the seat when they spin up to pressure.
Which ever one you go for I'm sure you will enjoy - I will have to cope with my 996 C4 for the time being until I reach the dizzy heights of GT3 territory.
ENJOY !!!
Running cost for 993 TT:
1) Major service - £4K! needed new tyres,new discs and pads.
2) Oil leak - £700
3) New turbo intercooler pipes - £700.
4) two other annual services - around £1000 each.
MPG - 18 over 25000 miles.
Insurance - very good - £900 per year. 29yrs old - full NCB.
All above over 3 years -i.e £7400 on 3 services and repairs. Been through one set of tyres only - not bad for 25K miles.
Still superb car though. All work done at OPC - may be considerably cheaper at specialist dealer mind - but none near me!
Poor old sniper.
Thats a terrible cost over 25k miles.Definitely not normal.
In my case
1) one major service - £1100 at an OPC (the only one)
2) no oil leaks - tight as a drum
3) what happened to your intercooler pipes?- mine are fine
4) two other annual services - around £300 each (at an Indie of course)
MPG - average 24 over 18,000 miles, including 12mpg on three trackdays
Insurance -very good- £356 per year, including track cover - 64 years old - full NCB
Same set of tyres, some tread left, and that is after trackdays not hanging about.
I wonder who owned the car before yourself, and how did you acquire it?
JohnC
993turbo
Sailor : I am the 5th owner - needed new clutch (under warranty) and new tyres,discs and pads 6 months after I acquired the car - never driven it hard.
The intercooler pipes showed signs of degradation at last service - hence advised to replace before they became any worse. Hopefully these no more repairs in the pipeline - may just have had a atypical costly experience[&:]
£7400 over three years -not unreasonable -my '89 C4 used to cost about £2K per year (excl insurance) ........regretably cars do wear out, even Porkers!
