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YOUR RESEARCHHelp getting in and out
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For that reason one should adjust seat height such that your fist fits between head (or helmet) and the roof.
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Due to his physical condition, he was unable to disconnect from his seat belts without landing on his head being unable to support his body with his arms and crawling out the open window.
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SLIDERS (IF THERE'S ROOM BEHIND THE SEAT TO THE ROLL BAR), GRAB HANDLES OR CHANGE THE SEATS....
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Kind of like running barefoot versus buying ultra-padded running shoes.
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Kind of like running barefoot versus buying ultra-padded running shoes.
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Due to his physical condition, he was unable to disconnect from his seat belts without landing on his head being unable to support his body with his arms and crawling out the open window.
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I have a 2003 996 Turbo Coupe with Sparco Pro2000 fixed RaceSeats. I'm finally at and age where I need help getting in or out some of the time.
I'd like to figure out how to make a grab handle (s) or hear from some of you, the secrets to easier access and egress???
I don't mind a modification if needed. I already have plenty of those!
Note high fixed mount and high sides
Removable wheel helps (a little)
Great seats, once you're in em
Sometimes you can use the steering wheel as a brace to get in. Not sure if that would work in your case but worth a shot. This is what makes the Euro GT3 seat so glorious. The perfect blend of track and street
EDIT: If those are fixed buckets, get sliders, move it back and keep the steering wheel on maybe?
Hate to say it, but more exercise and stretching might give you back some of what time has taken away.
Entropy sucks! However, if you have a talk with your doctor he might be able to point you to a path to mitigate the worst of the effects.
Just don't give up! Nice ride, too!
Sorry to say this but, get rid of those seats! With the OEM seats you can slide your butt over to the edge of the door and let your legs lift you out. Then you could install a grab handle either in the overhead, or in the forward pillar, to help leverage yourself out. That's how I do it but I do not have a grab handle....yet! Getting in is no problem for me. I have had 2 hip replacements to boot, but I also work out in my home gym at least 5 days a week.
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Certainly sliders will help, which means you don't have to remove your steering wheel to get out. The steering wheel will give you something to push against as you turn your body to get out with your right hand. Left hand will push against the seat. If you don't need the removable steering wheel any more, go to a non removable one that can withstand the "push" weight.
Your other option is to go with a full cage without the low support bars at the door. This will allow you to hang a strap from the bar above the window to hold onto and get out.
Or yes, just go to stock seats. But if you plan on continuing to track your car, you would be crazy to put your stock seats back in the car.
Hey, there are a number of club racers in the Chicago region that were racing into their late 70's and early 80's. Haven't been out to the local club races for a couple of years but my guess is that they are still doing it. Fast guys, but not as limber as we all were at age 40.
oh yeah, I felt really bad for my instructor climbing into my corvette with fixed-fixed back seats, wasn't sure he would make it
but nothing was as terrifying as the braking point in his new ZR1 when I rode with him
Another problem with our cars is that they sit very low to the ground and our doors are very long (around 4ft out fully opened) which makes it hard to get out in tight parking spaces.
If you add bucket type racing seats, it makes it almost impossible to wiggle out in tight situations - healthy or not.
Now you can add an A-pillar handle to help pull yourself out. Lots of 4x4 guys install them, but it would mean drilling into the car.
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As others have said, I think sliders would help significantly. I have Recaro Pole Positions in my 951 and it is amazing how much easier it is to get out if you slide the seat all the way back, especially if you can't open the door all the way. Switching to a fixed steering wheel, so you can use it for support sounds like a solid idea too.
A safety thought for those that are going to track their car. Not only is safety equipment critical to your safety, but some form of being in decent physical shape is just as important. You gotta be able to exit to car.
Back in the mid 2000's when I first started DEing my car, I watched a gentlemen in a 964 roll his car and land on the roof of the car. Due to his physical condition, he was unable to disconnect from his seat belts without landing on his head being unable to support his body with his arms and crawling out the open window. He was a bit overweight. So he hung there for about 20+ minutes until the fire Department arrived to roll the car back over, cut open the door and then pull him out. Horrible situation to be in. A little strength training coupled with a little weight loss will help all of us out. I am down 20, just need to take off 10 more before the season starts. It's damn tough the older you get.
Whenever I see posts about difficulty getting in - my brain auto shifts to - how hard is it to get out ?
We can take however long we want to get in, not a luxury your entitled to on egress.
If you’re wedded to the seats (they really improve the driving experience IMO) I think having a sturdy A pillar handle fabricated and installed is a great idea, it really is a safety thing.
So far I'm seeing some interesting approaches to getting an older driver into these race seats. Adding sliders could work... My roll bar is pretty close to the fixed seat position. Changing the seats is a consideration if I don't discover or learn a CRE8IVE technique for getting in & out. I added a seat cushion that fits beautifully into the seat well and lifts up about 3-4 inches and is nearly undetectable.
I appreciate all your comments so far. I actually love the race seats once I'm in em. Remember that Chrysler (I think it was) that had seats that turned 90 degrees to make exit and entry extremely easy? I KNOW "DREAM ON"..... SLIDERS (IF THERE'S ROOM BEHIND THE SEAT TO THE ROLL BAR), GRAB HANDLES OR CHANGE THE SEATS....
IF changing it back to stock seats is best, Does anyone out there want the Sparco Pro2000 seats (looking brand new) and has two stock leather seats in Grey or Black PM me to talk about a trade.
I think I have one of those around here somewhere... Worth a try to see if it helps. A mounted grab handle on the A pillar as well should be going in the right direction. I'm not ready to rush into new seats yet...
For that reason one should adjust seat height such that your fist fits between head (or helmet) and the roof. In case of hanging upside down in your seat, you push your fist between head and roof and unbuckle. Your body will drop obviously but you won't bang your head and possibly hurt your spine in the process.
Maybe have a custom aluminum racing seat built with a hinged and locking outer bolster..That way you could get in and raise the bolster and lock it, then hit the unlock to lower it and get out..
Could be designed around your present seat dimensions and possibly use some of your existing cushions/covers?
I hate to say it too, but this is by far the best option. Your body and mind and life will thank you for it. I wouldn�t just talk with a doctor, though, I�d look for a sports medicine expert, or a fitness expert. Most issues with flexibility or pain, back issues, and immobility actually have to do with strength training a weak area or an area that just needs to be stretched properly. Too many times, someone who can no longer run because of knee pain has been told they will never run again, when in fact all they need are a couple of simple exercises or stretches. Or a doc advising to get an operation when in fact all they need is some specific training scenarios.
What I�m saying is that if you don�t address the issue, it will get worse if you try to compensate for it. You might end up having more issues if you try to make it easier to get out of the car. Instead, as crazy as it sounds, you could actually try to make it harder! Kind of like running barefoot versus buying ultra-padded running shoes.
Question is, how competitive is your driving and do you really need those seats to keep you buckled and tucked in? There are plenty of supportive seats out there that would keep you in place and let you track well into your adult age LOL
I skimmed the thread for this and didn't see it. At the risk of sounding like captain obvious i'll still say it because I see people getting into their car wrong every day.
When you get into a low car, you go in butt first. If you put your foot in first, you got a problem. Drop your *** into the bucket. Then bend your knees and pull your feet in one at a time. then put the steering wheel on. Getting out is the opposite. It should be no problem with this method.
Apologies if you already know how to get in and out of a car and need more help. Just thought I would throw this out there to help anybody who sees it because I see people doing it wrong.
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Fixed back seats: grab the A-pillar externally (little lip where it meets windshield) w left hand; right hand at seat right shoulder support; throw right leg in, drop **** into seat.
no sliders, super low to floor.
exit is reverse, pull on A-pillar, push off seat back.
