987 spyder/r no flat6 replacement !981.2 flat4 - Page 2 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche... this will most likely be the 981.2 and therefore go in any future spyder/r

RIght up my street; near 400bhp (as there's no need to handicap a 4-pot), a bit lighter and ~40mpg. What's not to like? SS7

no doubt it will be a cracker but imho a porsche should be a flat6 n/a engine|

Lets hope this one isn't made from chocolate!!

itsybitsy said: no doubt it will be a cracker but imho a porsche should be a flat6 n/a engine What does that make this then? http://www.icewallpapers.com/view/porsche_904_carr... SS7

Spyder now set for greatness for sure... Last pure analogue sports car they will ever make?

rob.kellock said: Spyder now set for greatness for sure... Last pure analogue sports car they will ever make? no the R was that :-). Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 22 March 09:54

mrdemon said: no the R was that :-). Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 22 March 09:54 no any 987.2 or 997.2 they are all great cars.and if you want a 911 in its purist form then the 997.2 3.6 non pasm car imho is pick of the bunch Edited by itsybitsy on Saturday 22 March 11:46

not really they all had PASM and no diff till later option which very few had. And PASM on does not really work on UK roads at all.

mrdemon said: not really they all had PASM and no diff till later option which very few had. And PASM on does not really work on UK roads at all. If fitted to the car, PASM is always on. SS7

pasm was not standard on the 997.2 3.6?

shoestring7 said: itsybitsy said: no doubt it will be a cracker but imho a porsche should be a flat6 n/a engine What does that make this then? http://www.icewallpapers.com/view/porsche_904_carr... SS7 Heaven.

itsybitsy said: mrdemon said: no the R was that :-). Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 22 March 09:54 no any 987.2 or 997.2 they are all great cars.and if you want a 911 in its purist form then the 997.2 3.6 non pasm car imho is pick of the bunch Edited by itsybitsy on Saturday 22 March 11:46 What about a 987.1 3.2 with a low pressure turbo?

shoestring7 said: If fitted to the car, PASM is always on. SS7 Not really, I have had a PASM car and my mate has a PASM car, when it's on you know about it. Yes it adjusts on it's own, but on is very much more on :-p

mrdemon said: shoestring7 said: If fitted to the car, PASM is always on. SS7 Not really, I have had a PASM car and my mate has a PASM car, when it's on you know about it. Yes it adjusts on it's own, but on is very much more on :-p It's an active system. It's always working, you just set the damping parameter. SS7

mrdemon said: rob.kellock said: Spyder now set for greatness for sure... Last pure analogue sports car they will ever make? no the R was that :-). Edited by mrdemon on Saturday 22 March 09:54 Corrected for you. last pure analogue and unique/beautiful looking sports car they will ever make. AND condition for analogue and unique

shoestring7 said: What does that make this then? http://www.icewallpapers.com/view/porsche_904_carr... SS7 It makes it not quite as good as this http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1060537

Quite possible that they mean this engine will be introduced for the next all new model rather than the face lift. There again the 987.2 got the DFI unit, although this new engine change is much more of a change. Who knows..

OlberJ said: shoestring7 said: What does that make this then? http://www.icewallpapers.com/view/porsche_904_carr... SS7 It makes it not quite as good as this http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1060537 I see your 6-pot $1.2m 904 and raise you a 4-banger $3.14m RSK718: SS7

shoestring7 said: RIght up my street; near 400bhp (as there's no need to handicap a 4-pot), a bit lighter and ~40mpg. What's not to like? SS7 The words "up to" 400ps will apply. So much like the Macan, I reckon that there is every chance that the same engine will be offered in a range of tune. I suspect 320, 360, 400 for Cayman, S and GTS respectively with an artificial -10ps for the equivalent Boxsters... Sound right to you guys? Surely the next thing would be for the rumour mill to suggest that the next iteration of 911s will all be derived flat 6 turbos...? As for what's not to like - surely we have to wait and see, but as long as it doesn't strangle the soundtrack too much it isn't necessarily destined to be a bad thing. And for those championing some kind of classic status for the 987 R as an end of the line turning point - surely all that is has over the just announced Cayman GTS (available with non-PASM dampers and 20mm lower ride height for no extra charge) is that it's power steering is not electric and you had the option to delete the stereo and carry less fuel?

You forgot the go faster stripe. Makes no end of difference!! I don't really agree with you, I think the 981 is a "next generation" car. It's not just the steering, it's the electronic dial in the instrument binnacle, the start stop function, hill start assist, it's just moved the game forward in a lot of ways when you add it up as a package - you can even have radar cruise! Doesn't make the 981 a bad car, far from it but I do think the Spyder and the R mark the end of a line to some extent.

I know where you are coming from, but you could equally argue that the 987.2 was actually the beginning of that line due to the presence of the 9A1 block and option of PDK - the cross over is a touch woolly as a consequence. That said - I do see manual Spyders with buckets and the correct wheels as something a bit special with collector appeal (especially if they have the normal rather than shrunken fuel tank), though I find the Cayman R less convincing in terms of specialness (but that is just a personal thing).

Good call. Mine is the only Spyder I have ever heard of with that combination of attributes and the fuel tank was only fitted by accident, discovered when I had cruise retro fitted!

DiscoColin said: I know where you are coming from, but you could equally argue that the 987.2 was actually the beginning of that line due to the presence of the 9A1 block and option of PDK - the cross over is a touch woolly as a consequence. That said - I do see manual Spyders with buckets and the correct wheels as something a bit special with collector appeal (especially if they have the normal rather than shrunken fuel tank), though I find the Cayman R less convincing in terms of specialness (but that is just a personal thing). The R is every thing you want a GT3 to be like on the road, and every thing you wish the new cars would feel more like. Yes it maybe less special than the Spyder, but it's the better more complete sports car. R will have it's place in the future as a Great drivers car, it just takes a while, but I know 5 ex gt3 owners who have made the switch.