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Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version?

Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version? Taycan Turbo S been out 5 years ish -

Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version? Cayman is not an EV.

Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version? “ The "Porsche Turbo Electric" refers to high-performance, all-electric models within Porsche's lineup. Specifically, it applies to the Taycan Turbo S (a sports saloon) and the Macan Turbo Electric (an SUV). These models combine electric powertrains with Porsche's signature performance characteristics, including powerful acceleration, sporty handling, and advanced technology feature”

This is the worst attempt at baiting an argument I’ve seen Few lonely beers and at 1am decide to spice up your Saturday night on PH isn’t how I’d spend my weekend

Gilbertd said: Knowing that the Cayman is an EV...

I think the name is ridiculous - calling an electric car Turbo / Turbo S is just stupid

DSLiverpool said: Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version? Taycan Turbo S been out 5 years ish - And the base 911 has been turbocharged for 13 years - "turbo" has been a synonym for "the fast one"/disconnected from a mode of induction since 2011!

No more stupid than certain manufacturers fitting voice boxes to make their electric products sound like their old V12 . The OP needs to watch he doesn't fall foul of these new proposed eyesight tests . Cayman ??

AmyRichardson said: DSLiverpool said: Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Or has turbo now changed meaning from being short for turbocharged to being shorthand for the faster version? Taycan Turbo S been out 5 years ish - And the base 911 has been turbocharged for 13 years - "turbo" has been a synonym for "the fast one"/disconnected from a mode of induction since 2011! yes, but at least the "Turbo" still has a different engine to the base car and is in fact a turbo, so it still kind of makes sense, while on the Taycan it makes no sense at all. base car has "only" been turbo since I think 2016, so call it 9 years

I assume the OP is thinking Cayenne? Which is ICE only

Next you'll be telling me my razor is neither turbocharged nor electric.

I'm pretty sure our vacuum cleaner has a "turbo" mode and it certainly doesn't have a turbocharger. "Turbo" has been a term for "more powerful" or just "better" for decades.

Joe Public understands “Turbo” on Porsche = betterer So Taycan Turbo = betterer than Taycan 4S

Cold said: Next you'll be telling me my razor is neither turbocharged nor electric. Unfortunately not... Being a Mach 3 razor it has afterburners instead.

Reheat, please, my dear chap!

Confusing a Taycan with a Cayman I’d suggest not to get too concerned with what level of trim it was

You are all right, it was a Taycan and not a Cayman, the big ugly one. I even checked the Porsche website to make sure someone hadn't been sticking extra badges on to make it look flash and that model really did exist. A performance model, yes, but calling it a turbo? Edited by Gilbertd on Sunday 17th August 10:29

Is it any worse than calling a road car a "GT3" when it's clearly doesn't meet GT3 homologation rules?

I'll admit, Porsches of any sort haven't been of any interest to me for years, I'd rather have the RS7 I had for a few months over any of them. But calling a car a turbo when it doesn't have one seems particularly stupid to me. I appreciate that the Saab Turbo started it many years ago when the word came to mean anything that was supposedly better than the non turbo version hence the turbo razor, vacuum cleaner (although even then you could argue that it has a scroll impeller so could loosely be likened to a turbo) and so on. But surely, sticking a Turbo badge on a car that doesn't have one is no different to the kid that sticks Turbo GTI badges on his 1.1 litre NA hatchback?

Gilbertd said: I'll admit, Porsches of any sort haven't been of any interest to me for years, I'd rather have the RS7 I had for a few months over any of them. But calling a car a turbo when it doesn't have one seems particularly stupid to me. I appreciate that the Saab Turbo started it many years ago when the word came to mean anything that was supposedly better than the non turbo version hence the turbo razor, vacuum cleaner (although even then you could argue that it has a scroll impeller so could loosely be likened to a turbo) and so on. But surely, sticking a Turbo badge on a car that doesn't have one is no different to the kid that sticks Turbo GTI badges on his 1.1 litre NA hatchback? agreed and I think there is a big difference between calling some random consumer good a turbo aka fast vs. a car that has no turbos. Especially from a brand that built quite a bit of its road car credentials on a 911 Turbo 40-odd years ago. It is about as bad as BMW calling what feels like every second car an M car nowadays, hardly any of them having been developed by the M division.

Fair play to the OP for coming back to the thread and confirming modern porsches all look alike

kambites said: I'm pretty sure our vacuum cleaner has a "turbo" mode and it certainly doesn't have a turbocharger. "Turbo" has been a term for "more powerful" or just "better" for decades. Yep, it’s tedious the obsession with something called turbo having to have a spinny thing. Loads of cars have a turbo nowadays, but we’re t called turbo. Ford Raptors aren’t dinosaurs ! An F150 “Lightning” is not powered by lightning. Car names are all generally fairly meaningless, best not to get too fixated, sounds a bit Rain Man going on about it.

J4CKO said: kambites said: I'm pretty sure our vacuum cleaner has a "turbo" mode and it certainly doesn't have a turbocharger. "Turbo" has been a term for "more powerful" or just "better" for decades. Yep, it’s tedious the obsession with something called turbo having to have a spinny thing. Loads of cars have a turbo nowadays, but we’re t called turbo. Ford Raptors aren’t dinosaurs ! An F150 “Lightning” is not powered by lightning. Car names are all generally fairly meaningless, best not to get too fixated, sounds a bit Rain Man going on about it. I agree, although I must admit to being a bit puzzled when looking at Fiat 500s and encountering a 'Diesel'* special edition with a petrol engine! I do know why it's called that, but didn't immediately twig out of context.

Very possibly wrong but are the only new N/A cars made by Porsche the GT3, GT3 RS & the soon to be ceased production Cayman / Boxster 4.0 GTS, GT & RS models

https://teambgb.com/pages/911-turbo-gt2-conversion

gtsralph said: https://teambgb.com/pages/911-turbo-gt2-conversion 100k and you have to provide the turbo engine and the car. That sounds a bit rich ....

Isn’t the “turbo” ethos of Porsche a very quick 4wd GT that doesn’t sound that great? When they applied it to the Taycan I thought that made sense as it’s the EV version of the same thing and as far as that ethos goes, it fits an EV well. You can now get your Turbo S served in a bunch of different ways, all serving up stonking performance.

Gilbertd said: Sitting in traffic alongside a Porsche and looked at the badge. It clearly showed Cayman Turbo S. Knowing that the Cayman is an EV, I looked and confirmed a lack of exhaust pipes. So how the hell can it be a Turbo? Easy ..... Porsche Cayman S Turbo https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman-s/6776/parr-p...

OK, I've admitted I got the name wrong, it was a Taycan not a Cayman (only 2 letters out....) but at least the Cayman Turbo has a proper engine AND a Turbo. As far as the naming of trim levels go it seems to be a German thing. The M Sport BMW may have been a proper M Sport a few years ago but these days is just a trim level. The same as a Mercedes AMG used to have an AMG built engine with a little plate with the name of the man that built it but now AMG just means the trim level and you can get an S Line Audi diesel that isn't an S as in S4, S5, etc.

This thread reminds me of an incident at hopwood services i had earlier this year. My partner and I had just popped to the loo and on return a gammony man in some kind of people carrier was pointing at the back of my car (taycan turbo) asking where the turbo was. The whole thing was so pathetic we both just smiled and got into the car. This chap gets out of his car and starts pointing at me and laughing for driving a fake car with no turbo. Long and short of it is, don't worry about it. You can even, at no cost, have the car debadged. It's a trim level.

Miserablegit said: Reheat, please, my dear chap! Reheat is achieved through the use of afterburners. My post stands.

Gilbertd said: You are all right, it was a Taycan and not a Cayman, the big ugly one. I even checked the Porsche website to make sure someone hadn't been sticking extra badges on to make it look flash and that model really did exist. A performance model, yes, but calling it a turbo? Edited by Gilbertd on Sunday 17th August 10:29 Horrific aren’t they? It’s a Turbo S too lol

donkmeister said: Miserablegit said: Reheat, please, my dear chap! Reheat is achieved through the use of afterburners. My post stands. I tend to find the microwave is an easier way of doing it, at least in the domestic setting. Separately, my old Focus hasn't got a river running through the middle of it. Who should I sue?

My point is having a specific name to denote a performance model is fine but using the word turbo when it doesn't have one? What next? the Nitrous Oxide Injected trim level?

Gilbertd said: OK, I've admitted I got the name wrong, it was a Taycan not a Cayman (only 2 letters out....) but at least the Cayman Turbo has a proper engine AND a Turbo. As far as the naming of trim levels go it seems to be a German thing. The M Sport BMW may have been a proper M Sport a few years ago but these days is just a trim level. The same as a Mercedes AMG used to have an AMG built engine with a little plate with the name of the man that built it but now AMG just means the trim level and you can get an S Line Audi diesel that isn't an S as in S4, S5, etc. M-Sport (etc.) has always been a pack of suspension upgrades, a body kit, wider wheels, and some interior upgrades. Never has been sold as a full-on M model. The M-Performance models are just an M-Sport pack with a modified series engine. I never understood the fuss about this stuff, as AMG, M, etc., are just in-house tuning arms of their respective parent companies.

Gilbertd said: My point is having a specific name to denote a performance model is fine but using the word turbo when it doesn't have one? What next? the Nitrous Oxide Injected trim level? Maybe if they used the standard for batteries that we already know AAA,AA, C and D it might be more acceptable? Though Cayman AAA doesn't really trip off the tongue and Porsche's Cayman D seems more like a reference to ladies undergarments.

kalexan273 said: Gilbertd said: My point is having a specific name to denote a performance model is fine but using the word turbo when it doesn't have one? What next? the Nitrous Oxide Injected trim level? Maybe if they used the standard for batteries that we already know AAA,AA, C and D it might be more acceptable? Though Cayman AAA doesn't really trip off the tongue and Porsche's Cayman D seems more like a reference to ladies undergarments. I think a return to power output as part of the model designation would be useful. It was certainly a thing in the days of fiscal horsepower (Austin 7, Citroen 2cv). It was certainly a thing in the 2000s (Ford Focus ST170, MG ZR180), and for EVs it seems a very good way of doing things. Maybe use the battery capacity too, as per Tesla etc. So a Porsche Taycan Turbo S would actually be a Porsche Taycan 570/105 (570kW, 105kWhr).

Gilbertd said: … I appreciate that the Saab Turbo started it many years ago when the word came to mean anything that was supposedly better than the non turbo version hence the turbo razor, vacuum cleaner … Are you saying the SAAB Turbo didn’t actually have a turbocharger??

Techno9000 said: Gilbertd said: I appreciate that the Saab Turbo started it many years ago when the word came to mean anything that was supposedly better than the non turbo version hence the turbo razor, vacuum cleaner Are you saying the SAAB Turbo didn t actually have a turbocharger?? My top spec Saab was named after a bubbly chocolate bar.