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YOUR RESEARCHPls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

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water dillution in the fuel

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cause was water dillution in the fuel from a dodgy fuel station.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?
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Check fuel pressure a couple of months ago

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I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?
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Check fuel pressure a couple of months ago

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I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Use gauge

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I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Run )

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- a blocked fuel filter (seems unlikely to stop all running)?

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Run pump

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Turning the ignition on and off afterwards doesn't run the pump.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?
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Check fuel pressure a couple of months ago

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I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Run )

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Suggestion · Original poster

- a blocked fuel filter (seems unlikely to stop all running)?

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Run pump

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Suggestion

Turning the ignition on and off afterwards doesn't run the pump.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Run via durametric i had 3.8 bar

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Suggestion

With the engine off but the fuel pump running via durametric I had 3.8 bar which is exactly what I should have had as the 996t comes with a 3.8bar fuel pressure regulator as standard.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Test point next

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Suggestion

A fuel pressure test at the test point next to the fuel filter would be a good place to start.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Test point pre or post fuel filter

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Suggestion · Original poster

Just a quick query - is the fuel pressure test point pre or post fuel filter?

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Test would rule

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Suggestion

A fuel pressure test would rule that in or out and take out some of the guesswork but that’s your call

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?

Use drive links

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Just though seeing as you've got a durametric you can use it to manually turn the fuel pump on using the drive links.

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Use gauge

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I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?
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These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

water dillution in the fuel

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Reported cause

cause was water dillution in the fuel from a dodgy fuel station.

Pls help diagnose a non-starting issue?
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I also put another 10 litres in afterwards with no change in symptoms.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi all, my 2002 996T tip had a weird fault yesterday - I was accelerating out of a corner and then lost all engine power and throttle responsiveness over about 5 seconds - the gear box automatically changed down from third and the throttle was immediately non responsive. I first thought it was a gearbox fault, as it felt like the car had shifted into neutral and the speed just gradually decreased until the revs died right down and the engine stalled as we came to a standstill, but I don't think it was, I noticed the car shifting down at least one gear, possibly two. No flashing lights on the gear selector indicator either. I think it was just the engine becoming unresponsive and gradually dying to a stall, almost as if it ran out of fuel, but there's plenty of fuel in the tank - half a tank on the gauge and I only filled it up about 90 miles previously, so I think the gauge is accurate (4WD 996s often misread at half a tank after a battery cut off due to the saddle tank). I also put another 10 litres in afterwards with no change in symptoms. No warning lights or codes, no smoke, no bangs or unusual noises. No leaks. Temperatures, voltage and oil pressure were normal immediately before the issue. Once at a standstill, I tried to restart, with a strong starter motor and cranking, but no firing, even after adding the 10L of fuel. The car has an aftermarket fuel pump (Walbro, so a quality pump with no history of failing), and the crimped electrical connection from that to the oem two power wires had previously become detached, so I immediately suspected a reoccurence of that, but when I pulled off one of the fuel lines from the top of the fuel sender, fuel immediately started to pour out (even with ignition off), so it seems that the pump is providing at least some fuel pressure. After being sat for 30 minutes or so I tried to restart and again, strong cranking, and the engine stumbled to fire, but not on all cylinders and only very weakly for a second or two. Tried again later and no firing at all, despite a strong turning over from the starter motor. Just a weird one all around really and I'm struggling to figure out where to start basic fault finding: - would the above happen if there was no power to the spark plugs (fuse issue)? - could it still be a fuel issue, perhaps a cracked fuel pipe within the fuel tank (common issue)? - could it be the fuel pump fuse or relay? - a blocked fuel filter (seems unlikely to stop all running)? Any pointers gratefully received!

POST 2Original post

any chance of getting a PIWIS tester plugged in to see what issues might arise ?

POST 3Original post

A fuel pressure test at the test point next to the fuel filter would be a good place to start.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 2758080

No codes on Durametric. Couldn't see anywhere to log fuel pressure, is there an option to?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 2758097

Thanks - I've tried this before and failed miserably - couldn't get any of the fittings from a relatively cheap kit off Amazon to fit on that port, is it a specific port/adapter I need?

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This is great advice as my fuel pump let go recently

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Quotes source post: 2758149

Highly unlikely to be the fuel pump I suspect - it's a Walbro that's 4 years old and has fewer than 6k miles on it. They're extremely reliable. Much more likely to be a connection somewhere - either fuel pipe crack in tank or electrical I suspect.

POST 8Original post

A fuel pressure test would rule that in or out and take out some of the guesswork but that’s your call

POST 9Original post

I checked my fuel pressure a couple of months ago and used a gauge that looked exactly like the one in your pic, the brass connector on the end of the rubber pipe (connected to the gauge) screwed straight on, no other adaptors were needed. With the engine off but the fuel pump running via durametric I had 3.8 bar which is exactly what I should have had as the 996t comes with a 3.8bar fuel pressure regulator as standard. If your car has a 5 bar regulator then you should have 5bar when checked as above!

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Great thanks, I'll buy that set and try again!!

POST 11Original post

You could also try the fuel delivery and return. My old 996 cut out and failed to start.... cause was water dillution in the fuel from a dodgy fuel station. We were chasing it for weeks.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just a quick query - is the fuel pressure test point pre or post fuel filter? If it's post and the pressure is ok, that would rule out the fuel filter.

POST 13Original post

It's after the filter on the line which connects to the passenger side fuel rail Ps I've never seen a fuel filter be the cause of a breakdown on a modern fuel injected car

POST 14Original post

Just though seeing as you've got a durametric you can use it to manually turn the fuel pump on using the drive links. If you just turn the ignition on it's not easy to hear the fuel pump due to all the other motors which make noises as they go through their start up routines, also it only primes the pump the first time you turn the ignition on. Turning the ignition on and off afterwards doesn't run the pump. If you turn the ignition on then wait for all the noises to subside, then turn the pump on via durametric you can hear it start and stop especially from the engine bay by the fuel filter if it's working

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Awesome, thanks. Will give it a go tomorrow.

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