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YOUR RESEARCHCayenne drivers ignore my nod and wave
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I waved at a 991 owner once and no wave back, and it was the first and last time.
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I actually got out and checked my rear turn signals in heavy traffic once..
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Unassuming middle aged bloke approaches in a 996 down a country road - most probably an avid enthusiast.
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Yesterday I'm admiring a nsx and pull aside it, he's checking the 996 out then we both smile and give thumbs up.
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I've been thinking about getting a Cayenne to replace my wife's Saab 9-7x (aka Chevy Trailblazer with Saab badges and the ignition moved to a goofy spot).
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I've been thinking about getting a Cayenne to replace my wife's Saab 9-7x (aka Chevy Trailblazer with Saab badges and the ignition moved to a goofy spot).
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(don't get me started on the HIDEOUS Panamera - here the middle finger can come in handy even though I do not condone the use of the middle finger unsupervised)
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Proud owner of a 911 / 996 for a couple years now and have noticed an alarming trend. As I drive next to, by or simply see another Porsche (not matter the make and model) it seems to me that Cayenne owners don't like me. Only ONE has acknowledged my extending of my hand in a 'waving' motion as if to say "Hey, I see your fine taste in automotive choices and we share a bond of Porsche"...just one. The rest stare at me blankly and I'm really not that ugly...ask my dog.
It's as if Cayenne owners don't care about non-Cayennes. Heck, even Miata drivers give a nod. What gives?
Don't get me wrong, I'll continue my pursuit of friendly waves and nods even if ignored...just didn't know what's going on......
Most Cayenne drivers are not Porsche enthusiasts or even car enthusiasts. They are people who bought an SUV and thought it would be cool to buy one with a Porsche crest on the hood. There are exceptions of course, but generally Cayenne owners couldn't care less about anybody else's automotive choices.
Some Cayenne drivers (and I know this from first-hand experience) keep their head down, because they
wish
they were in a 911 (and I presume, don't feel worthy....)
If I see a Porsche (even a 924) I flash then waive if I'm in the Ctt. The 911 I typically do one or the other. As for Panoramas and macans and non gts/ctt/s cayennes I typically don't even attempt unless they are first. They don't seem to care whatsoever. But I know the guy in a 911 probably gets a kick out of a cayenne driver saying hi, I know I do, the handful of times it's happened.
Yesterday I'm admiring a nsx and pull aside it, he's checking the 996 out then we both smile and give thumbs up. It made my day.
Yeah so do I. I think one 991, one 996, and one Cayenne have responded in the 2 years I've had the CD. I probably see at least 4 Porsches a day.
I don't think it's so much the type of car that is the problem as it is the type of driver. The brand is getting too diluted and mainstream so I think you have an increasing number of badge buyers that could only tell you the brand and model (maybe) of their car.
I've never waved at anyone while driving in my Cayenne except one guy in a c4s that lives down the road and I know he's an enthusiast. Flip side of that is he's the only one who has waved at me also.
I've waved at a couple people in 911's since I've owned the 996 but got nothing in return.
I gave up on waving at other drivers because of the brand of car they drive when I sold my last Jeep.
The Cayenne guys always wave to me - when I am driving my F150 Screw. Almost never when I am in the 911. It doesn't bother me since I usually don't bother to wave to other Porsche drivers (I am afraid I may accidentally wave to a Boxster!)
When I was in college and BMWs were very rare, about 98% of all drivers in one would flash their lights when we I passed in my 2002; then they came out with the 320i and everything went down hill...
A lot of'em here. Usually my son raves about the Porsche in the next lane and if the driver sees him and waves, I wave back. I waved at a 991 owner once and no wave back, and it was the first and last time.
Have to be careful waving or gesturing at people over here...if you do it with one finger, or a local thinks that you did, you are going to spend some time in a dark place wishing that you hadn't.
Keeping your hands firmly on the steering wheel avoids temptation.
Wave at all Porsches: 911s & Caymans, seem to be biggest responders, followed by Boxers. Panny and Cayenne owners, bring up the rear. Macan - too new to tell. 918 & CGT - I'm not waving, but not to be rude, but because I'll be too busy getting my wife to get her cell phone out to snap a pic!
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I've been thinking about getting a Cayenne to replace my wife's Saab 9-7x (aka Chevy Trailblazer with Saab badges and the ignition moved to a goofy spot). Saturday night, I swear to God, I had a dream that I bought a nice blue over tan model and it burned up in a parking lot right after I bought it. Do you think that's a bad sign?
In my targa - I wave to most p cars, I got a 4 thumbs up a week from random cars, and drivers are courteous around me.
In my Cayenne - none of the above happens. The pisser is the courtesy part. Feels like no one wants to let me in line etc. Good thing I have no problem barging in wherever.
I get tons of waves etc from all walks of life (except air cooled guys
. ) all makes and models all ages of fans. One time the family and I were out and my wife asked like 5 times if I knew that guy..lol
Now getting let over, that is a different story. I actually got out and checked my rear turn signals in heavy traffic once..
If So.Cal has 25% of the US Market "The Hamptons" must have at least that much as well. It's thick with them here! And no, most of them don't wave...in fact I don't think any have ever waved to me (911's or otherwise)...maybe one...I don't know - but that doesn't really bother me as I'm not waving at them either. Actually I find it a little strange to wave at someone, or to feel some sort of camaraderie because someone is driving the same kind of car as me...What if they're a serial killer or wife beater orsomethingl? Am I supposed to like them because of their car?
Agree that Cayenne owners/lessees are not buying a Porsche for the same reason one buys a 911 (or Boxster/Cayman).
That said, I still can't get over how fugly the Panamera is. One can "squint" at the back and think: "yeah, I can see how the company that designed the 928 could have designed the Panamera". In fact, if you squint really hard, and imagine the Panamera with 2 doors, not 4, you can see a 928.
There are a lot of Porsche Snobs in the Raleigh/Cary area of NC and is why I don't attend the local PCA Regional meetings, a very clickish group. It is even worse if you show up in a Boxster. People tend to put on their Porsche voice when talking about their cars.
I would have to say probably about 1/3 wave back around here. Maybe if I had a GT3 more may wave back.
You are wrong on both counts. Some of us did buy our (new) Cayennes specifically for the qualities that make them Porsches.
The majority of new 991/981 buyers (like all the other models) are primarily buying it for the badge and the status they believe it brings to them.
For better or worse the 996/986 brought the brand to the masses and that's who has been buying it the most since then. There are still those of us that buy them (new) for what the cars are and can do, be we need the others as they are the ones keeping the brand alive (even if it is going in ways we don't particularly agree with).
Actually what struck me as I was behind one earlier today was how much it's *** looks like an early design of the current 981 rear end. I am not a fan of the new 981, particularly that *** it has...
In these parts of the world (Switzerland) I have noticed that 911 owners/drivers do raise their hands (or fingers, not the middle one though) to acknowledge the fine piece of machinery one have in common and it happens 99% of the time.
This said, all other models - Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne, Macan etc - are just arrogantly ignored
(don't get me started on the HIDEOUS Panamera - here the middle finger can come in handy even though I do not condone the use of the middle finger unsupervised)
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Haha, it's funny how infuriating the lack of a recipocating wave can be!
The rules are simple but the execution is complex. Enthusiasts acknowledge enthusiasts. This is the untold but well understood etiquette in the car geek world. The game is to know when the approaching car is being driven by an enthusiast or not. We base that decision on the type of car, appearance of the driver and the location of the meeting.
Unassuming middle aged bloke approaches in a 996 down a country road - most probably an avid enthusiast. Young suited corporate chap approaches downtown in a 991, probably couldn't care less, don't wave!! However, if the chap in fact turns out to be an enthusiast, he will initiate wave action, but only if your car/driver combo meets his enthusiast specification. He doesn't want to be a wave victim either, after all. If your car is perceived as significantly inferior by the car enthusiast community (let's say a smoking beater 924) and that 991 driver initiates wave action, this is considered a slam dunk/perfect score in automative terms. Fuzzy inner feeling of happiness ensues. All is good in the world.
When soccer mom approaches in her Macan, don't bother! If soccer mom has an SC in the garage, she will wave first. If you are also in a Macan, the passing should and will probably not be celebrated with wave action.
Also, acknowledge all waves of the friendly kind irrespective of the car passing by. The waver is clearly going out on a limb by waving from a 'normal' car, hoping you respond.
See, simple really!
Or maybe a handbook or placard the Sales person goes over with the new owner, "
Etiquette of the Wave
". It can even have sections by country so you can learn proper etiquette as you don't want to end up in some extremely unpleasant situation.
I don't wave at stock looking Boxters nor Cayennes. Panamera drivers who never had or used to have a 911 are excited to wave because they either wish or miss the 911 experience
Waving at BMW drivers will unfortunately most probably get you well beaten up in my part of the world... Careful now!
Also, it is not uncommon over here to substitute the admiring wave with a quick flash of the high beams. Very suave indeed. Perhaps even a beepbeep of the horn if you are having a truly smashing day.
Personally I prefer the subdued single raise of the index finger if an acknowledgement is required, thereby maintaining a Steve McQueen-like coolness that the Porsche driver should naturally possess.
He's not in Arkansas...
As far as the wave - I don't even bother when I'm in the 911. Occasionally when I'm in the Porsche and preoccupied, I'll inadvertently wave at a 'Vette. This confuses the hell out of the Corvette driver. Um...hi?
