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The Porsche website is currently showing 40 new Porsches for immediate delivery. Are the supply issues over, or is this a cunning plan to force mega-spec cars onto customers? https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/search?conditi...

Pretty much all Cayenne, Panamera, Taycans

Sign of the times, there are over 28000 new cars for sale on “new cars autotrader” many with discounts not heard of a year ago!

75K for a base 2 litre Macan seems a bit steep!

Cancelled orders due to higher interest rates and general belt-tightening?

Porsche delivered tons of new cars in December to boost 2022 delivery metrics - mine arrived a month earlier than expected and I wasn't alone. I'd assume with them being a listed company now, they are more focused on things like that now. There are undoubtedly cancelled orders there, but in the main these are the more common 'stock' cars anyway.

£80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!!

Milemuncher said: £80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!! At least it's a 2.5S, Edinburgh OPC have a new 2.0 base Cayman at £74k!

Jefferson Steelflex said: There are undoubtedly cancelled orders there, but in the main these are the more common 'stock' cars anyway. They seem to be specced to a ridiculous standard, for example base Macans specced to beyond GTS prices.

Vroomer said: They seem to be specced to a ridiculous standard, for example base Macans specced to beyond GTS prices. If specd by OPC I believe they get a lot of extras free so increases mark up? Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 18th January 22:17

Vroomer said: The Porsche website is currently showing 40 new Porsches for immediate delivery. Are the supply issues over, or is this a cunning plan to force mega-spec cars onto customers? https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/search?conditi... could be the most dull selection of Porsches ever in a listing.

GT4P said: If specd by OPC I believe they get a lot of extras free so increases mark up? Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 18th January 22:17 I suspect they may need to pass on some of those savings to sell a 2L for 75K. You’d have to really want a new one.

julian987R said: could be the most dull selection of Porsches ever in a listing. Agreed. Unless you wish to spend 90 grand on an SUV the list is largely without merit

Milemuncher said: £80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!! That's more (inc OTR) than my CGTS delivery in November! It also has PDLS+ which implies it was built some time ago

mabosh said: Milemuncher said: £80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!! At least it's a 2.5S, Edinburgh OPC have a new 2.0 base Cayman at £74k! I have a 3.8 981 cayman GT4, a 4.0 718 GTS Boxster and a 2.5 718 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 is my favourite all rounder. It’s a great car and gets by far the most use. People are very quick to dismiss the four pot engine, usually those that haven’t driven one.

Fair comment…but £80k?!

P. ONeill said: I have a 3.8 981 cayman GT4, a 4.0 718 GTS Boxster and a 2.5 718 Cayman GTS. Why?

P. ONeill said: mabosh said: Milemuncher said: £80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!! At least it's a 2.5S, Edinburgh OPC have a new 2.0 base Cayman at £74k! I have a 3.8 981 cayman GT4, a 4.0 718 GTS Boxster and a 2.5 718 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 is my favourite all rounder. It’s a great car and gets by far the most use. People are very quick to dismiss the four pot engine, usually those that haven’t driven one. I know, I had a 718 2.0 before my current 4.0 GTS! Bought it new in 2018 with some nice options, cost £50k. Sinking £74k into one would be madness. Surely there must be scope for negotiation or it's still going to be in the showroom when the EV Cayman replacement is launched!

Grantstown said: 75K for a base 2 litre Macan seems a bit steep! Sold!

Milemuncher said: £80k for a 4-cylinder Boxster!!! Sold!

Lots of the ridiculously over-specced and over-priced cars have sold. Who would have thought there was a buyer for an Orange base Macan at £70k?

Vroomer said: Lots of the ridiculously over-specced and over-priced cars have sold. Who would have thought there was a buyer for an Orange base Macan at £70k? Maybe it’s now a demonstrator?

Grantstown said: Maybe it’s now a demonstrator? …or Mr Tango was after a new car for his wife?

How do you know any of the above have actually sold? Cars often disappear only to reappear a little later at a different OPC.

I assume it's still near enough impossible to get a "discount" on the Porsche. Dad is after a hybrid Cayenne and a few in stock fit the bill

P. ONeill said: I have a 3.8 981 cayman GT4, a 4.0 718 GTS Boxster and a 2.5 718 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 is my favourite all rounder. It’s a great car and gets by far the most use. People are very quick to dismiss the four pot engine, usually those that haven’t driven one. Interesting that you prefer the 2.5 GTS. I've often wondered if these would actually be better than the NA 4.0 that replaced it, and all the journalists rave about. I drove a 718 4.0 GTS and found the experience didn't quite match the hype.

^^^^Try a GT4 for the sweetspot.

Up to 79 now. Mainly Cayennes and Taycan.....rest will follow soon though!

J210 said: I assume it's still near enough impossible to get a "discount" on the Porsche. Dad is after a hybrid Cayenne and a few in stock fit the bill Make an offer....they can only say no!

rkwm1 said: Up to 79 now. Mainly Cayennes and Taycan.....rest will follow soon though! Including seven Taycans at Edinburgh!

I’ve had a look at the Taycans as I have a deposit down to replace mine, but I haven’t heard a peep about a build slot. Most of them are ridiculously over specced, so I suspect there could be some negotiation room, but I think I’m leaning towards keeping mine now, particularly as it’s been a trouble free car. I have faith (not objectively proven) that there are good trouble free cars and ones that are just wrong-uns!

Called round this week- was offered a choice of 992 GTS Targa and convertible all spec'd to the 9's, a Macan T, a GT4 build slot for April, a choice of two Cayman GTS (both showroom cars and high spec). DM me if anybody would like the details.....

I wonder if this is a new sales strategy...build lots of massively over-specced cars and make them immediately available as an alternative to a long wait for a sensibly specced car.

Vroomer said: I wonder if this is a new sales strategy...build lots of massively over-specced cars and make them immediately available as an alternative to a long wait for a sensibly specced car. The 992 GTS were both 155-160 and the Cayman GTS were both nudging 90k one with PTS and the other with 918 buckets....

Vroomer said: I wonder if this is a new sales strategy...build lots of massively over-specced cars and make them immediately available as an alternative to a long wait for a sensibly specced car. It’s been working well in the US for years.

bennno said: Called round this week- was offered a choice of 992 GTS Targa and convertible all spec'd to the 9's, a Macan T, a GT4 build slot for April, a choice of two Cayman GTS (both showroom cars and high spec). DM me if anybody would like the details..... I rang a few myself but not been offered any 992 im not after a gas tho More like an S

911hope said: P. ONeill said: I have a 3.8 981 cayman GT4, a 4.0 718 GTS Boxster and a 2.5 718 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 is my favourite all rounder. It’s a great car and gets by far the most use. People are very quick to dismiss the four pot engine, usually those that haven’t driven one. Interesting that you prefer the 2.5 GTS. I've often wondered if these would actually be better than the NA 4.0 that replaced it, and all the journalists rave about. I drove a 718 4.0 GTS and found the experience didn't quite match the hype. I recently part exchanged my highly option 718S for 718GT4. I am happy with my purchase and really enjoying it and it is another experience altogether but seriously missing my Cayman S. The Cayman S lasted less than 3 days on the dealer forecourt before it got another buyer whilst their other 718GTS 4.0 had not found any interested buyers. (2022 make, only 2000 miles on the odometer and one previous owner for £62,000.00 or so) The four pot 718 Caymans especially 2.5L should be seen as just another group of Caymans and not mentally compared to the Flat 6 engined ones. They just sound different not worse. They have louder exhaust in Sport mode. I think it is just a Porsche enthusiasts’ thing as there a lot of other cars with 4 pots that get rave reviews and followers e.g GR Yaris 3 pots, Alpine A110 4 pots. Apart from sounds, being different, there is nothing to separate 2.5L GTS and 4.0L GTS in terms of performance I am sure, I would have regretted it, if I had bought 4.0L GTS because it would not have felt that special enough for the jump Mind you there is a YouTube video where a 2.5L GTS PDK dusted a GT4 on Nurburgring. I know it is driver dependent but it also shows the performance and ability of the 4 pot Caymans/boxters Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 15:21

LamedonM said: I recently part exchanged my highly option 718S for 718GT4. I am happy with my purchase and really enjoying it and it is another experience altogether but seriously missing my Cayman S. The Cayman S lasted less than 3 days on the dealer forecourt before it got another buyer whilst their other 718GTS 4.0 had not found any interested buyers. (2022 make, only 2000 miles on the odometer and one previous owner for £62,000.00 or so). Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 15:21 The cheapest 2022 718 4.0 on the Porsche website is £75k and the cheapest full-stop is £67k. Not sure where your 2022 £62k car is.

LamedonM said: I recently part exchanged my highly option 718S for 718GT4. I am happy with my purchase and really enjoying it and it is another experience altogether but seriously missing my Cayman S. The Cayman S lasted less than 3 days on the dealer forecourt before it got another buyer whilst their other 718GTS 4.0 had not found any interested buyers. (2022 make, only 2000 miles on the odometer and one previous owner for £62,000.00 or so) The four pot 718 Caymans especially 2.5L should be seen as just another group of Caymans and not mentally compared to the Flat 6 engined ones. They just sound different not worse. They have louder exhaust in Sport mode. I think it is just a Porsche enthusiasts’ thing as there a lot of other cars with 4 pots that get rave reviews and followers e.g GR Yaris 3 pots, Alpine A110 4 pots. Apart from sounds, being different, there is nothing to separate 2.5L GTS and 4.0L GTS in terms of performance I am sure, I would have regretted it, if I had bought 4.0L GTS because it would not have felt that special enough for the jump Mind you there is a YouTube video where a 2.5L GTS PDK dusted a GT4 on Nurburgring. I know it is driver dependent but it also shows the performance and ability of the 4 pot Caymans/boxters Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 15:21 I couldn’t agree more. I had a four cylinder 718 Boxster GTS which I changed for a six cylinder Spyder. They are both great cars but very different in character. I have to say I miss the deeper exhaust sound of the GTS but the sound of the Spyder above 4000rpm is something else. The only problem is the speed you are doing when you get there!

bennno said: The 992 GTS were both 155-160 and the Cayman GTS were both nudging 90k one with PTS and the other with 918 buckets.... Which dealer? Wouldn't mind a Targa GTS if its the right colour

LamedonM said: It is not a Porsche dealer and I am not advertising for this said dealer (dealer does not seem to be very popular here) and the price is £66,490, actual mileage 3529miles, 2021 manual with adaptive cruise control: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212292... Those "Optional 21" Y-Spoke Alloy Wheels at an Additional Cost of £2,990" look awful in my opinion. What on earth are they thinking?

LamedonM said: It is not a Porsche dealer and I am not advertising for this said dealer (dealer does not seem to be very popular here) and the price is £66,490, actual mileage 3529miles, 2021 manual with adaptive cruise control: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212292... Nice but I said 992GTS

ferdi p said: LamedonM said: It is not a Porsche dealer and I am not advertising for this said dealer (dealer does not seem to be very popular here) and the price is £66,490, actual mileage 3529miles, 2021 manual with adaptive cruise control: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212292... Nice but I said 992GTS Sorry, I meant to reply to mabosh

ferdi p said: Nice but I said 992GTS This is the Targa for you https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14048437

mabosh said: LamedonM said: I recently part exchanged my highly option 718S for 718GT4. I am happy with my purchase and really enjoying it and it is another experience altogether but seriously missing my Cayman S. The Cayman S lasted less than 3 days on the dealer forecourt before it got another buyer whilst their other 718GTS 4.0 had not found any interested buyers. (2022 make, only 2000 miles on the odometer and one previous owner for £62,000.00 or so). Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 15:21 The cheapest 2022 718 4.0 on the Porsche website is £75k and the cheapest full-stop is £67k. Not sure where your 2022 £62k car is. It is not a Porsche dealer and I am not advertising for this said dealer (dealer does not seem to be very popular here) and the price is £66,490, actual mileage 3529miles, 2021 manual with adaptive cruise control: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212292... Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 19:10

LamedonM said: mabosh said: LamedonM said: I recently part exchanged my highly option 718S for 718GT4. I am happy with my purchase and really enjoying it and it is another experience altogether but seriously missing my Cayman S. The Cayman S lasted less than 3 days on the dealer forecourt before it got another buyer whilst their other 718GTS 4.0 had not found any interested buyers. (2022 make, only 2000 miles on the odometer and one previous owner for £62,000.00 or so). Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 15:21 The cheapest 2022 718 4.0 on the Porsche website is £75k and the cheapest full-stop is £67k. Not sure where your 2022 £62k car is. It is not a Porsche dealer and I am not advertising for this said dealer (dealer does not seem to be very popular here) and the price is £66,490, actual mileage 3529miles, 2021 manual with adaptive cruise control: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212292... Edited by LamedonM on Sunday 12th February 19:10 Fair enough, seems a reasonable price for a two year old, very lightly/poorly optioned car from a non Porsche dealer with a fetish for hideous after-market wheels. I'm sure they've had that for at least six months. It's not representative of the bulk of the stock in the OPCs though.

julian987R said: Those "Optional 21" Y-Spoke Alloy Wheels at an Additional Cost of £2,990" look awful in my opinion. What on earth are they thinking? I agree Those wheels are awful!

WG said: julian987R said: Those "Optional 21" Y-Spoke Alloy Wheels at an Additional Cost of £2,990" look awful in my opinion. What on earth are they thinking? I agree Those wheels are awful! Anyone buying would need a discount so they can replace the wheels. If the dealer had any sense, they would make the change themselves. These wheels probably rule out 95% of the potential customers.

911hope said: WG said: julian987R said: Those "Optional 21" Y-Spoke Alloy Wheels at an Additional Cost of £2,990" look awful in my opinion. What on earth are they thinking? I agree Those wheels are awful! Anyone buying would need a discount so they can replace the wheels. If the dealer had any sense, they would make the change themselves. These wheels probably rule out 95% of the potential customers. Dealer has the standard wheels, but wants £3k or thereabouts extra for those monstrosities,,,,,

Those wheels are utterly, utterly disgusting.

Prices (including used) are RIDICULOUS in this country, not sure how they manage to survive with that. Probably still stuck in stone age with not much understanding of economies of scale. They've just added a 2021 Macan GTS 17k, around 10% more expensive than a brand new similar spec on the configurator. At the same time, when I approach them with a proper car - my Manual "Sports Exhaust" 981s Boxster, the money they offer me is laughable (15% less than webuyanycar...). So sounds like they want to make a 20-30% profit on any car they buy, ridiculous. Edited by stewieyan on Tuesday 14th February 13:47

stewieyan said: Prices (including used) are RIDICULOUS in this country, not sure how they manage to survive with that. Probably still stuck in stone age with not much understanding of economies of scale. They've just added a 2021 Macan GTS 17k, around 10% more expensive than a brand new similar spec on the configurator. At the same time, when I approach them with a proper car - my Manual "Sports Exhaust" 981s Boxster, the money they offer me is laughable (15% less than webuyanycar...). So sounds like they want to make a 20-30% profit on any car they buy, ridiculous. Edited by stewieyan on Tuesday 14th February 13:47 whats the mileage and age of your boxster and what did they offer?

stewieyan said: Prices (including used) are RIDICULOUS in this country, not sure how they manage to survive with that. Probably still stuck in stone age with not much understanding of economies of scale. They've just added a 2021 Macan GTS 17k, around 10% more expensive than a brand new similar spec on the configurator. At the same time, when I approach them with a proper car - my Manual "Sports Exhaust" 981s Boxster, the money they offer me is laughable (15% less than webuyanycar...). So sounds like they want to make a 20-30% profit on any car they buy, ridiculous. Edited by stewieyan on Tuesday 14th February 13:47 I have just traded in my Macan at OPC. They came within £1000 of WBAC so your experience is not universal. Guess it is down to supply and demand - demand for low mileage Macan, less for 981 ‘s which let’s face it are now getting a bit old for OPC ‘s unless they are low mileage and in exceptional condition.

Vroomer said: Those wheels are utterly, utterly disgusting. I think they're very popular in some places, albeit spinners more chrome and full privacy tints would win out

WG said: I have just traded in my Macan at OPC. They came within £1000 of WBAC so your experience is not universal. Guess it is down to supply and demand - demand for low mileage Macan, less for 981 ‘s which let’s face it are now getting a bit old for OPC ‘s unless they are low mileage and in exceptional condition. Just because something might be perceived old doesn't mean one should get their trousers pulled down. It's still one of their products and a proper sports car at that, which is what Porsche were originally known for. It's a sad state of affairs when Porsche are giving better values for and prioritising their Audi Q5's.

OPC are actually trying. A lot of other brand franchised dealers would not advertise or allow on their forecourts cars of certain age

Schuey_911 said: Just because something might be perceived old doesn't mean one should get their trousers pulled down. It's still one of their products and a proper sports car at that, which is what Porsche were originally known for. It's a sad state of affairs when Porsche are giving better values for and prioritising their Audi Q5's. 7-10 year old boxsters not really what most of their customers are after though - and, as poster above discovered, their minimum margin (which must be 5K+) is too high a % age of a cheaper car.

Vroomer said: Those wheels are utterly, utterly disgusting. it’s a close tie between those and the three spoke alloys that were once on a max power vauxhall carlton for worst wheels ever.

ferdi p said: Which dealer? Wouldn't mind a Targa GTS if its the right colour Friend of mine was offered a crayon one by Leeds, about £145k I think, but it was about 2 weeks ago so probably gone now. Cancelled order.

Completely anecdotal but I'm sitting in my OPC and there are so many cars outside I couldn't find a parking spot. Currently ogling a nice 991.1 GT3. Sadly I'm not here to buy that Adding, there must be over a dozen Taycans here. I thought the waiting list was enormous? Edited by stuckmojo on Wednesday 15th February 09:02

Wills2 said: Well they are already discounting them more than that like this manual T with £13-15k off the list price. https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... Ask them if it's £10K on top of the current advertised price. My Local OPC is quoting about £2-3k off list for some SUVs, £8k on a Taycan, £3k on a Targa 4 GTS, and bugger all off a base Cayman and Boxster (actually £75 over). But you do get a very nice cup of coffee with some Belgian chocolate.

The price of a new Targa GTS blows my mind i need more than £3k of it

Deansfield said: Cheib said: I think emboldened by the Covid madness Porsche increased booth volumes and prices by at least 20%….in some models like GT3’s they nearly doubled the amount of cars delivered. I’d say you can increase prices or volumes but generally not both. That was an incredibly poor piece of judgement…they got away with it for maybe 24 months as there was still the pent up demand but that bubble has now burst. They’re selling less cars and having to discount them to do it. Finance rates are the icing on the cake. Returning to an equilibrium will not be easy….nobody “needs” to buy a Porsche so they need to make it a good experience both in terms of the quality of the product and the cost of ownership. The quality of the product is not as good as it was (build quality) and they’re a hell of a lot more expensive to own. Very well put Excellent summary David..

CanAm said: My Local OPC is quoting about £2-3k off list for some SUVs, £8k on a Taycan, £3k on a Targa 4 GTS, and bugger all off a base Cayman and Boxster (actually £75 over). But you do get a very nice cup of coffee with some Belgian chocolate. None of these feel like a discount, the car is 12% to 15% overpriced to start with, so it’s got to be 25% off, to feel like a discount, because if not you are onto a hiding on the resale after 1000 miles/6 months. Porsche deserve everything that is coming to them, all self inflicted

Please educate me, I’ve never bought a new Porsche so what am I missing. I’m a simple man, with simple needs and I’ve configured what I see as the car I would want. It comes out at £108,200. Now with the discounts that are being discussed , I’d like to think £100K would get it. Looking on AT I can only see 1 2025 car for less than £100K, so what am I missing?

Offered £10 k off 911

hunter 66 said: Offered £10 k off 911 That’s what I read from yesterday’s post at 21.15, am I mistaken?

Owners need to factor in the difference in trade and retail prices in their expected depreciation from new. I’d imagine the dealer margin is more than the 10k that it used to be, back in the day. Not to mention 30% depreciation on 130 - 140k is a good bit more than 90 - 100k… You need to be very wealthy or absolutely enthused by the car these days. I’m not convinced the regular cars provide enough character for the costs involved.

jonny996 said: Please educate me, I’ve never bought a new Porsche so what am I missing. I’m a simple man, with simple needs and I’ve configured what I see as the car I would want. It comes out at £108,200. Now with the discounts that are being discussed , I’d like to think £100K would get it. Looking on AT I can only see 1 2025 car for less than £100K, so what am I missing? To be fair I think you are slightly miss reading the state of the market right now. Walk into any OPC with your specification in hand and ask for a car (an allocation in Porsche speak) most OPC’s will spin you a line on “limited availability” or “sold all our allocation this month” etc etc. you will leave the showroom without placing an order. A day or two later you will receive a phone call, “good news sir we have found a car that almost meets your requirements which is “in stock, a cancelled order” etc etc. this will be at least £10K more than your spec and not your colour. Politely decline this once in a lifetime opportunity. A couple of days later a you will get another call. “We have found you an allocation, transferred from another dealer, or an extra one from Porsche GB” or some other such yarn. At this point you go into the OPC and actually spec your car. You will have every upselling trick in the book thrown at you, usually just white lies, or alternatively great big fat lies, ignore them all and spec your car. Now the fun starts, ask for a discount. You will in most likelihood be shown the door politely and the conversation will end there. You have done well to stay in the game this far. Either pay full wack or carry on playing. Best tactic, in my opinion, at this stage of the game is to go straight to the decision maker, head of new sales, or sales director or whoever it might be. Tell them that you have an allocation, a spec, and the money to do a deal. Tell them what you want in simple terms for the deal to work for you. At that stage it’s 50/50. Get a no and just walk away and start the process with another dealer, get a qualified yes and then with a bit more haggling you have a deal. Should you get to this stage my advice is to read the paperwork very, very thoroughly before you sign. Sometimes the actual spec and deal as written down is a bit different to what you thought it was going to be! Common tactic for OPC’s. So yes well done you have bought a car with a discount. It’s a totally different story to get the sort of discounts banded about on here. £10K off a 911 for example. These discounts are for a car which is already built and sat in stock usually because those precious “allocation stories” are complete bulls t. These cars have been specified by the dealer with no end customer in sight but they have to take the car to reach their Porsche “targets”. These cars are usually very over specified and thus overpriced. It is highly unlikely that in your case you would find a car in the spec that you would like. Say you find a similar car but it has another £10K of options that you don’t want. Where do you bid that car? At your original undiscounted spec price or at a lower level to reflect it’s not the car you actually wanted? Only you can decide. Is this car then a “bargain” or just a cynical way of Porsche selling some old stock. More fun and games. Slightly cynical reply I know but it’s based on personal experience and not on hearsay. Good luck, keep us posted.

Fast Bug said: There's a new head of sales just started at PCGB, so I wonder if things will change as we head towards the end of the year. Name please?

RS Guy said: Name please? I can bet it's not Father Christmas..

Augustash said: The price of a new Targa GTS blows my mind i need more than £3k of it One that was up for sale recently that got snapped up pretty quickly.

Wills2 said: Well they are already discounting them more than that like this manual T with £13-15k off the list price. Edited by Wills2 on Friday 5th September 07:59 A couple of lines on one of those ads paint a bleak picture of the ongoing challenges they face, current price is £119,900. “This vehicle is in stock for immediate delivery! Take advantage of a saving of £13,898 from the original RRP. Since this vehicle was manufactured, there has been a price increase, and the same vehicle ordered today would have an RRP of £137,990. Price quoted is plus first years road tax at £4,680.00 and £55.00 registration fee.”

Wills2 said: Well they are already discounting them more than that like this manual T with £13-15k off the list price. https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch... Ask them if it's £10K on top of the current advertised price. I do like the spec of the blue Carrera T. A nice buy for someone. Edited by Wills2 on Friday 5th September 07:59

Looks like 75 new 911’s on the AUC site so I am sure many more sat in storage. Admittedly more than half of them are GTS’s specced to over £150k…hardly a surprise that they aren’t shifting.

Grantstown said: Yes I’m sure if you offer them £105,000 they let it go, after playing walkout the dealership and wait a few hours, 1 day… and wait for the call.

Cheib said: Looks like 75 new 911’s on the AUC site so I am sure many more sat in storage. Admittedly more than half of them are GTS’s specced to over £150k…hardly a surprise that they aren’t shifting. Very nice car for £100k

JJ77 said: Yes I’m sure if you offer them £105,000 they let it go, after playing walkout the dealership and wait a few hours, 1 day… and wait for the call. Still happy with my 991.2, but if I was looking for a new 911 for the road I think that would be a good one to look at first.

bennno said: Cheib said: Looks like 75 new 911’s on the AUC site so I am sure many more sat in storage. Admittedly more than half of them are GTS’s specced to over £150k…hardly a surprise that they aren’t shifting. Very nice car for £100k If it had the five spokes id be seriously tempted Edit: looking at the configurator i cant actually see the five spokes - are they not an option on the T? Edited by DoubleSix on Sunday 7th September 09:48

Lots of reports of people getting emails offering £10k off a 911 or a Cayenne but there seems to be no similar offers for a Boxster, Cayman or Macan.

How on earth do Porsche get themselves out of this mess? When I took delivery of our spec'd 992 GTS cab in July '23, it was ordered at £133.5k with if I recall £13k of extras and just survived the £12k price increase as spec was locked. Lovely car, but not a £133k car. It was bought as it was going to replace our mac 675 spider. In 5 months it was gone; to many squeaks, rattles, a PDK gearbox that assumed i wanted to do 4k revs in each gear regardless of mode and a rear spoiler that would decide to stay up for a few days at a time. A new replacement same spec is a bawhair off £160k. £10k discounts doesn't cover it being £30+k overpriced in the first instance. A GT3 is now a £200k order; its an unlimited run compromised sports car. Honestly; i have no idea how they sort this.

Can anyone that's ordered a 911 with discount kindly advise me? After a discount is negotiated at the dealer and detailed in an email, a deposit of £5K is requested. Then a "new vehicle order form" is sent via email but doesn't mention the discount (but the email does again state the discount amount). Is this normal as the order needs my signature?

thesmurfs said: Can anyone that's ordered a 911 with discount kindly advise me? After a discount is negotiated at the dealer and detailed in an email, a deposit of £5K is requested. Then a "new vehicle order form" is sent via email but doesn't mention the discount (but the email does again state the discount amount). Is this normal as the order needs my signature? id be wary of that.....

bigmowley said: To be fair I think you are slightly miss reading the state of the market right now. Walk into any OPC with your specification in hand and ask for a car (an allocation in Porsche speak) most OPC’s will spin you a line on “limited availability” or “sold all our allocation this month” etc etc. you will leave the showroom without placing an order. A day or two later you will receive a phone call, “good news sir we have found a car that almost meets your requirements which is “in stock, a cancelled order” etc etc. this will be at least £10K more than your spec and not your colour. Politely decline this once in a lifetime opportunity. A couple of days later a you will get another call. “We have found you an allocation, transferred from another dealer, or an extra one from Porsche GB” or some other such yarn. At this point you go into the OPC and actually spec your car. You will have every upselling trick in the book thrown at you, usually just white lies, or alternatively great big fat lies, ignore them all and spec your car. Now the fun starts, ask for a discount. You will in most likelihood be shown the door politely and the conversation will end there. You have done well to stay in the game this far. Either pay full wack or carry on playing. Best tactic, in my opinion, at this stage of the game is to go straight to the decision maker, head of new sales, or sales director or whoever it might be. Tell them that you have an allocation, a spec, and the money to do a deal. Tell them what you want in simple terms for the deal to work for you. At that stage it’s 50/50. Get a no and just walk away and start the process with another dealer, get a qualified yes and then with a bit more haggling you have a deal. Should you get to this stage my advice is to read the paperwork very, very thoroughly before you sign. Sometimes the actual spec and deal as written down is a bit different to what you thought it was going to be! Common tactic for OPC’s. So yes well done you have bought a car with a discount. Refer to my earlier post. Don’t sign anything until its totally as you expect it.

Wheelspinning said: How on earth do Porsche get themselves out of this mess? When I took delivery of our spec'd 992 GTS cab in July '23, it was ordered at £133.5k with if I recall £13k of extras and just survived the £12k price increase as spec was locked. Lovely car, but not a £133k car. It was bought as it was going to replace our mac 675 spider. In 5 months it was gone; to many squeaks, rattles, a PDK gearbox that assumed i wanted to do 4k revs in each gear regardless of mode and a rear spoiler that would decide to stay up for a few days at a time. A new replacement same spec is a bawhair off £160k. £10k discounts doesn't cover it being £30+k overpriced in the first instance. A GT3 is now a £200k order; its an unlimited run compromised sports car. Honestly; i have no idea how they sort this. I sent a spec for a GT3 Touring (fairly sensible spec but still £180k) to my local OPC recently. I wasn’t expecting much but they called me back the next day and of course no allocation available however they had an almost new one in stock for £220k and they also kindly offered a new GTS that was specced to £170k! I had no interest but was shocked at the price of the GTS, absolutely bonkers…Porsche have been taking the p with their base price increases of late. Anyway think I’ve found a really nice 992.1 GT3 manual with a nice saving over a new Touring or GTS, not through an OPC tho. Edited by RSbandit on Sunday 7th September 18:43

I can get a nice GT3 down to about £175k but the problem is, if I was doing it as a long term keeper I'd end up spending nigh on £200k for lots of nice bits I'd really enjoy having. And that's in white! If I were to go PTS it would be £210k! My mate is looking at a nice 992.1 that suits his spec, I put as much of the options in the config as I could see and it was over £190k for a comfort.

RSbandit said: I sent a spec for a GT3 Touring (fairly sensible spec but still £180k) to my local OPC recently. I wasn’t expecting much but they called me back the next day and of course no allocation available however they had an almost new one in stock for £220k and they also kindly offered a new GTS that was specced to £170k! I had no interest but was shocked at the price of the GTS, absolutely bonkers…Porsche have been taking the p with their base price increases of late. Anyway think I’ve found a really nice 992.1 GT3 manual with a nice saving over a new Touring or GTS, not through an OPC tho. Edited by RSbandit on Sunday 7th September 18:43 If you can buy a GT3 new to your own spec, it's fair enough but a bit expensive; £220k for used and someone else's spec...no ta. How you getting on with the 675?

Wheelspinning said: If you can buy a GT3 new to your own spec, it's fair enough but a bit expensive; £220k for used and someone else's spec...no ta. How you getting on with the 675? Getting on like a house on fire ..such an outstanding bit of kit! However I don’t want to track it more than 2 times a yr so moving my Aston on for a GT3 which will open up more track days to me.

Augustash said: The price of a new Targa GTS blows my mind i need more than £3k of it I think you are picking up part of the Trump tariff.

RSbandit said: Wheelspinning said: If you can buy a GT3 new to your own spec, it's fair enough but a bit expensive; £220k for used and someone else's spec...no ta. How you getting on with the 675? Getting on like a house on fire ..such an outstanding bit of kit! However I don’t want to track it more than 2 times a yr so moving my Aston on for a GT3 which will open up more track days to me. It's a weapon of a car. Did you not have a 600LT before? For less money you would have a car far superior for track work that a GT3?

Wheelspinning said: It's a weapon of a car. Did you not have a 600LT before? For less money you would have a car far superior for track work that a GT3? Yep I had a 600 previously, a brilliant car but running two McLarens doesn’t appeal and I really wanted a manual with a N/A engine so it was v hard to look beyond a GT3…the 992 seems v highly rated by all the journos and my test drive the other day had me giggling at the engine!

RSbandit said: Wheelspinning said: It's a weapon of a car. Did you not have a 600LT before? For less money you would have a car far superior for track work that a GT3? Yep I had a 600 previously, a brilliant car but running two McLarens doesn’t appeal and I really wanted a manual with a N/A engine so it was v hard to look beyond a GT3…the 992 seems v highly rated by all the journos and my test drive the other day had me giggling at the engine! I get that. However, as i posted before, I dispatched the 992 that was intended to replace the 675 as it ended up sitting there doing nowt as the mac was just so much better in every possible measure inc how it was put together.

Wouldn’t a 992 GT3 be a bit more exciting /hardcore than a GTS Cab tho? In any case I swap the cars out of storage every few weeks so don’t have both at my house. If I could only have one car it would be the 675 no question but let’s see if the GT3 tickles me in a different way!

RSbandit said: Wouldn’t a 992 GT3 be a bit more exciting /hardcore than a GTS Cab tho? In any case I swap the cars out of storage every few weeks so don’t have both at my house. If I could only have one car it would be the 675 no question but let’s see if the GT3 tickles me in a different way! Absolutely, but my wife would seldom drive the 675 due to concerns about damaging it, and i was trying to make a compromise as I felt the GT3 instead of 675 was jumping out of the frying pan due to the excellent hydraulic suspension in the 675. I didn't see the turbo s cab as a £200k car so we settled on the GTS cab. The daft issues we had with it as mentioned ( rattles, squeaks, irrational pdk and tail spoiler) along with the fact i would jump into the 675 every single time sealed it's fate in around 5 months. Lovely looking car though. I also experienced the dealer being your best friend when I ordered it and a T, and then the non return of many phone calls when we had issues.

ags11 said: Owners need to factor in the difference in trade and retail prices in their expected depreciation from new. I d imagine the dealer margin is more than the 10k that it used to be, back in the day. Not to mention 30% depreciation on 130 - 140k is a good bit more than 90 - 100k You need to be very wealthy or absolutely enthused by the car these days. I m not convinced the regular cars provide enough character for the costs involved. I'm getting a Carrera S (basically a 992.1 GTS, which Harry's Garage enthused about) and don't care about the depreciation. It's a bucket list thing always wanted a 911 and l can't take the money with me so blow it.

Choosing the spec you want and really making it your keeper is always very exciting ... and over the years the depreciation adds up to nought. All cars depreciate, Porsche still better than most. Have fun !!

I’m still thinking the sub £100K new 911 is achievable. I’m not in any rush , but if time allows I might try and test if it’s possible

Not Porsche but whilst discussing value for money/ cost of cars, this can be bought in Dubai, brand new, for £25K. As a lucky owner of many great Porsches over the years, are we getting value for money? A GTS in Dubai is similar money to UK for reference.

Is it a car manufacturer or a pyramid scheme? It’s not difficult to offer a 1m km warranty when the brand will be gone in a year or two.

jonny996 said: I m still thinking the sub £100K new 911 is achievable. I m not in any rush , but if time allows I might try and test if it s possible I had a go on the configurator, sticking to just the absolute essentials (ie basic seats and wheels etc), to see how low I could get the price. Then I looked at the colours, wasn't impressed, and went for Audraingreenmetallic (unfortunately from the PTS range). Then I saw Pasha upholstery was an option, so how could I not have that? Unfortunately that is only available with the 'Adaptive Sports seats Plus, electrical 18-way with memory package'.So with a few other 'essentials' the base price of £103,700 has crept up to almost £127,000.

CanAm said: jonny996 said: I m still thinking the sub £100K new 911 is achievable. I m not in any rush , but if time allows I might try and test if it s possible I had a go on the configurator, sticking to just the absolute essentials (ie basic seats and wheels etc), to see how low I could get the price. Then I looked at the colours, wasn't impressed, and went for Audraingreenmetallic (unfortunately from the PTS range). Then I saw Pasha upholstery was an option, so how could I not have that? Unfortunately that is only available with the 'Adaptive Sports seats Plus, electrical 18-way with memory package'.So with a few other 'essentials' the base price of £103,700 has crept up to almost £127,000. My spec was £108K, then there is the £10K discount. Fairly basic: Guards Red Red seat belts Red stitching Upgraded wheels. That’s it.

Best I can get to is £108k, less £10k off is £97k. Black with burgundy/black leather or chalk/black leather, sport seats, Bose and dark silver wheels. Edited by Ed.Neumann on Thursday 11th September 22:39

Unfortunately most of the .2 alloy wheel options are gopping apart from the spyder design and Carrera Classics but they are mega expensive. Not a fan of the wheel option on the T either I'm afraid but I'd probably opt for the Spyder design and then have them painted silver after delivery.

scrounger73 said: Unfortunately most of the .2 alloy wheel options are gopping apart from the spyder design and Carrera Classics but they are mega expensive. Not a fan of the wheel option on the T either I'm afraid but I'd probably opt for the Spyder design and then have them painted silver after delivery. I opted for Spyder as well after seeing it in person. Prefer the satin look.

jh001 said: Not Porsche but whilst discussing value for money/ cost of cars, this can be bought in Dubai, brand new, for £25K. As a lucky owner of many great Porsches over the years, are we getting value for money? A GTS in Dubai is similar money to UK for reference. We have one of these; it's a great car. The value for money is astonishing - all the gizmos you could ever want, comfortable, finish is decent, looks good (if a little bit of a new Defender rip-off). Got a 26 Cayenne on order and that's £121k... Is it going to be 5 times better? Well, probably, from a driving perspective - but it's definitely not good value for money at that price!!!

Also, on the subject of vfm... There's this interesting thread on Rennlist where someone has managed to spec a base 992.2 to over US $200k (£147k) without PTS! And it's actually in production and for sale at a dealership, not just someone playing on the configurator... https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1485913-they-said-... Link to listing: https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/details/porsch... Edited by 22s on Friday 12th September 15:19

22s said: We have one of these; it's a great car. The value for money is astonishing - all the gizmos you could ever want, comfortable, finish is decent, looks good (if a little bit of a new Defender rip-off). Got a 26 Cayenne on order and that's £121k... Is it going to be 5 times better? Well, probably, from a driving perspective - but it's definitely not good value for money at that price!!! Have you imported one into the UK or do you have it elsewhere ?

Redarress said: 22s said: We have one of these; it's a great car. The value for money is astonishing - all the gizmos you could ever want, comfortable, finish is decent, looks good (if a little bit of a new Defender rip-off). Got a 26 Cayenne on order and that's £121k... Is it going to be 5 times better? Well, probably, from a driving perspective - but it's definitely not good value for money at that price!!! Have you imported one into the UK or do you have it elsewhere ? It is a Chinese import, but not in the UK. I don't actually know if they do a RHD version.

That would be the car I'd buy to replace my old banger D3!

bennno said: id be wary of that..... Thanks given it's a contract I'm requesting the dealer include the discount, prior to signing the new vehicle order form.