997.2 Turbo Too cheap? - Page 2 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... Any ideas why this is so cheap? I've not seen a pdk turbo go for this price anywhere.

Maybe being the press hack puts people off.

Gen 2 turbo's have been dropping quite a lot the last 2 months, starting to look very tempting if you want pure A to B speed.

Its sold, could it be so you look on their website?

Noticed this car last week - definitely cheap compared to the rest of the gen 2 turbo market and it was up for 59990 when first listed. Not surprised it sold quickly - I've been monitoring values for while and they are definitely on the slide as a lot of 4 year lease / finance deals are up. Any truth in that car being a press car ? Might be why it's cheap for the mileage and year. a lot of car for the money and looking forward to further depreciation as it's next on the list

http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/porsche-911-turbo-p...

Same car then! Doesn't make it a bad thing but my money would go elsewhere...

Same car different wheels. The spyder centre locks were a £2k + extra. Aqua blue can be hard work to shift. Three owner car and alleged history won t help.....

Cheers chaps, I thought there might have been a story there somewhere. Good spot to find the original press article! It's encouraging to see 997.2 turbo prices coming down....

Cheers chaps, I thought there might have been a story there somewhere. Good spot to find the original press article! It's encouraging to see 997.2 turbo prices coming down....

Seems very strange that the wheels were changed.

Anyone know why you'd re.move the central locks and go back to studs. Sounds a big job ?

GT3cs said: Anyone know why you'd re.move the central locks and go back to studs. Sounds a big job ? Some people prefer the studs to the CLs as the CLs wheels CAN be a pain to change and ideally require a torque wrench. The GTS has identical but black/alloy rimmed spyder CLs and a small number were optioned with alternative stud fitted wheels for this very reason. Personally, I prefer the standard "blade" turbo wheel over the lighter grey spyder CLs on the Turbo model.....:

GT3cs said: Anyone know why you'd re.move the central locks and go back to studs. Sounds a big job ? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that question - a little use of the search would go a long way as variations of it get asked a lot... It is about 10-12 hours of labour to do (plus a hefty selection of parts, to include a new set of wheels obviously). Also, according to a letter from Porsche that I have - changing a CL car back to 5 bolt hubs is only approved on the GTS, so the inference is that doing so may or may not attract warranty renewal issues down the line. Why? Well, you need a 700Nm torque wrench to take the wheels off, for which there is a specific procedure and a required special grease so the only people who can do it are yourself (if you invest in appropriate expensive tools), one of the better independent Porsche specialists or an OPC. Those are thus the only people who can change brakes and tyres on it, or even get a proper look to inspect the pads. If you have a puncture and can't sort out the bottle of tyre weld you are going to need a flat bed recovery truck too, you can't just take the wheel off, leave it on an axle stand and pop down to a tyre fitter unless you have bought those aforementioned tools... Further to this, if the vehicle is used on track then as of earlier this year Porsche have reclassified the hubs, bearings, nuts and carriers as consumables requiring replacement at specific amounts of track mileage (beginning at only {and indeed every} 4200 track miles for the rear hubs, bearings and nuts - over £1k per corner on the operating costs - with longer intervals on the fronts and carriers). Consequently, if you did enough track mileage then the costs project a point where it is more cost effective to replace the CL system than persist with it. There is no such defined interval for the 5 bolt system - you just replace the bearings as required with no risk of a potentially dangerous hub failure. They look great, but on a road car they are far more trouble and expense than they are worth.

GT3cs said: Hope you've stopped crying by now Discocolin . Most questions will have been asked at least once by now, so we might as well get the forum shut down to any further posts . But thanks for wasting your time answering saved me searching . Merry Xmas I see that you and Discocolin love each other

Moosh said: I see that you and Discocolin love each other So pleased I asked the question . Good answer after the sarcasm. Guess I should be used to it on PH.

wait til you ask him about PCCBs....... PS: I would still spec it on every future porsche I order.

The red one for sale at Porsche Silverstone is a nice one. Check it out.

GT3cs said: Hope you've stopped crying by now Discocolin . Most questions will have been asked at least once by now, so we might as well get the forum shut down to any further posts . But thanks for wasting your time answering saved me searching . Merry Xmas Not a problem - I went with the laugh option in the end It is a question that a lot of people have asked in a lot of places recently (partly thanks to the extremely short track life of the parts that Porsche imposed only earlier this year on a system in use since 2009) and has cropped up on a lengthy string of threads over the last 3-4 years. Hopefully it will be common knowledge some day, but one would hope that buyers of the new Turbo S would be informed by dealers when speccing their cars (the only thing currently in production where normal hubs can alternatively be specified at no extra charge) so that their decision is guided by more than how smart they look.

Strangely enough the the said car will shortly be back on the scene - just went through BCA for a a rather hefty price... Give it 48h and will be up for sale. To be fair walked round the car and seemed to be in very good nick.

How much out of interest?

> 57k. Far too much for the trade but everything making strong money at the mo. Either a private buyer bought it or some one is in for a shock

And now the car back advertised with dove house for 63990... Surprised they went for it or maybe they didn't know it's history ?

So what happened? Someone bought it when I originally posted this thread and then resold it back to auction? Car looks lovely but Dove House are asking a lot considering how much we've seen it sell for recently! Something doesn't seem quite right....

Car was traded in part ex back into porsche retail group apparently - clearly porsche didn't want to retail again as an approved car so off to auction it went. I think they will probably achieve the price just because it's at the cheap end of the gen 2 market and low miles. Plus people don't do enough digging. Thing is the car was chopped in around December time but I swear the last dealer retailed it the same month so something doesn't add up

Car was traded in part ex back into porsche retail group apparently - clearly porsche didn't want to retail again as an approved car so off to auction it went. I think they will probably achieve the price just because it's at the cheap end of the gen 2 market and low miles. Plus people don't do enough digging. Thing is the car was chopped in around December time but I swear the last dealer retailed it the same month so something doesn't add up