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YOUR RESEARCHConnect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

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Issue is the same when rotating the engine an additional 360 degrees, or when trying it on bank 2.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in
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And that way I get to confirm the tolerance issue and adjust accordingly.

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Check oil sump and found 2 small brown plastic pieces

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Checked oil sump and found 2 small brown plastic pieces.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Adjust accordingly

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And that way I get to confirm the tolerance issue and adjust accordingly.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

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Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Check chain guides and everything else

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Of course I plan to remove (and replace with new when done) all 3 tensioners as I move on to check chain guides and everything else.

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And that way I get to confirm the tolerance issue and adjust accordingly.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Check /

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Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Check chain guides and everything else

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Of course I plan to remove (and replace with new when done) all 3 tensioners as I move on to check chain guides and everything else.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Check oil sump and found 2 small brown plastic pieces

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Checked oil sump and found 2 small brown plastic pieces.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Clean non-shifting rotations down below

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Just thought if there is any play in the IMS, I'd like to address that first, so that when I reinstall parts under the cam cover, re-timing will be based on clean non-shifting rotations down below.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Replace aos, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

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Suggestion · Original poster

Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Replace chain guides or tensioner guides

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Can’t replace the chain guides or tensioner guides with the camshafts and chains locked in place… just saying

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Replace coolant expansion tank

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Suggestion · Original poster

Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Replace ims bearing

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Should I loosen up the bolts on the cam sprocket to make this small adjustment before proceeding, or should I proceed to replace the IMS bearing with the current, less than perfectly fit lock on the camshafts?

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in

Replace timing chain guides

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Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in
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same

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Issue is the same when rotating the engine an additional 360 degrees, or when trying it on bank 2.

Connect the dots: White smoke, Oil in coolant hose, misaligned camshafts, plastic in
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Greetings 996 gurus! '03 Carrera 2 Cab, 6 sp. 152,000 miles. Owned it since 40,000 miles Please bear with me, for the benefit of setting the background and facts straight: This started with a suspected AOS issue, based on the crazy puffs of white smoke, and lingering small amount of smoke afterwards, along with very strong suction at oil filler tube cap. (Sorry it wasn't measured scientifically), and dropping oil pressure when warm. At idle, it would shut off eventually, just as it gets warm and as oil pressure dropping. It coincided with a leaky coolant tank and bad water pump Checked oil sump and found 2 small brown plastic pieces. Im thinking these are camshaft chain guide pieces. Elongated, 1 mm thin, roughly 10-11 mm long, and may be 2-3 mm wide. See pic. No visible metal shavings or powder or anything sticking to a magnet Found oil seeping at the bellhousing/engine parting line. Now please don't sentence me to Porsche jail just yet, but I'll understand if you do. IMS and RMS are still original. Kept waiting for the clutch to go to do it all at once, but the darn thing has been perfect for the last 110,000 miles! (Still within spec, actually!!). Found the IMS to be leaky. No oil seepage from RMS. 3 composite fins on water pump are broken Zero history (and still none) of metal flakes in oil filter or sump. Only 2 small brown plastic pieces newly discovered in sump. No metal Oil is certainly not contaminated with coolant No chain rattling noises that I could tell Oil dripped out of the vertical coolant line, at the exit of the oil pump console. Small amount. Nothing frosty. Just a small amount of black oil. No oil anywhere else in the coolant system. I'm thinking there will be more of it collected in the bottom of the oil pump console, on the coolant side. Vacuumed everything meticulously As I vacuumed all coolant lines (and engine ports, the best I could), in my failed search for the broken water pump plastic, I retrieved a rather large piece of curly aluminum (non magnetic) shaving from the large coolant hose (that was connected to the oil pump console). Basically it came from the radiator end. I'm thinking this broke off either from the oil cooler, (which could explain the small amount of oil in the coolant line), or from one of the radiators. I haven't put together a pressure testing jig to pressure test the oil cooler to confirm, yet, but it's coming. Any other thoughts? Picture attached Old AOS holds vacuum perfectly from one of the smaller ports, and has a tiny leak when vacuuming from the other port. New AOS holds vacuum perfectly regardless of where you pull vacuum from Because of my back injury, and since I'm not a contortionist to start with, I decided to drop the engine/tranny to check everything and tackle the tasks at hand, that include IMS bearing replacement, RMS replacement, checking/replacing timing chain guides, replacing coolant expansion tank, replacing AOS, and chasing whatever else needs addressing An issue came up in the process of prepping to tackle the tasks at hand: The camshaft alignment tool is not lining up perfectly for locking the camshafts on bank 1. I could push one end of the tool sideways with my thumb and flex it enough to barely catch onto the intake camshaft groove with the help of a tap with a rubber mallet, but it just rubs me the wrong way that I have to do that. It's basically off by a hair. I weigh less than 150 lbs and was able to do that with my left hand (I'm right handed), so it's not an excessive amount of push, though still need the tap of a rubber mallet. Issue is the same when rotating the engine an additional 360 degrees, or when trying it on bank 2. Should I loosen up the bolts on the cam sprocket to make this small adjustment before proceeding, or should I proceed to replace the IMS bearing with the current, less than perfectly fit lock on the camshafts? This all may make a great story on how some of these events are either connected, or randomly coinciding. But in the mean time, I'd like to know if it's ok to proceed with the IMS bearing replacement, knowing the camshaft alignment tool is not as perfectly fitted as I'd like, without help. Or should I make a small adjustment by loosening the bolts on the cam sprocket(s). Of course I plan to remove (and replace with new when done) all 3 tensioners as I move on to check chain guides and everything else. Just want to make sure there's no play in the IMS shaft as I rotate the engine to do other work, therefore I'm thinking that needs to come first Apologies for the long post and thanks in advance for any insight or suggestions you may have

POST 2Original post

Regarding the camshaft lock tool - the block or cam or tool might not be machined quite to tolerance. I wouldn't hesitate to file down, chamfer, etc., a reasonable amount (maybe up to 0.020 in) of the block or tool. Measure before and after so you can compensate with a shim if you find you need to get back to your pre-machined state. But I also would consider doing no hand machining - I think my goal in this area would be to just lock items so they cannot move during subsequent tasks; it's not to perfectly align different parts in relation to one another or an absolute. And specifically for the IMSB R&R and tensioner R&R, the goal is to keep the chain from jumping a whole tooth (because of partial rotation of the sprockets).

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Thanks for the response. And glad to hear it! This is the reason why I also ordered the camshaft removal tool, which comes with a locking tool as well. That way I will have 2 locking tools, which are both going to be needed for the IMS bearing replacement anyway! And that way I get to confirm the tolerance issue and adjust accordingly. That does beg the question: Why do the none of the instructions on IMS bearing removal, or the tool kits provided, address the fact that both banks need to be locked prior to IMS bearing replacement? They do in the case of the 5-chain engines, but skip over the 3-chain engines, for which I'm learning - and please correct me if I'm wrong - it is critical to lock both banks with a dual-groove tool simultaneously. The toolkits include only one dual-groove tool. Thanks again!

POST 4Original post

I recognize that plastic as camshaft chain guide too. If it’s chunking off, you need to pull off those cam covers and have a look… IMS is a back burner issue. If it was gonna explode, it would’ve done it well before 150k miles. I honestly don’t understand why you would want to ignore that an forge ahead with IMS! I sentence you to 30d in Porsche jail serving hard labor!

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That's a good question. Perhaps you can (privately) ask the question of the replacement IMSB manufacturer or a certified installer.

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Do the 6 days already spent in Porsche hell count towards the 30 days? Yes I fully agree, and certainly not ignoring the chain guides. Just thought if there is any play in the IMS, I'd like to address that first, so that when I reinstall parts under the cam cover, re-timing will be based on clean non-shifting rotations down below. More of a conservative approach as I'm newly getting familiar with these engines. Silly? More hard labor days earned?

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Can’t replace the chain guides or tensioner guides with the camshafts and chains locked in place… just saying

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