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Places like Pelican I suspect do not get notices of parts number changes so its parts info is out of date.
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Check filters i have
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I went to the garage to check the filters I have....
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Check shrapnel filtered
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It seems to make it harder to check for shrapnel filtered from the oil.
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Check with the dealer
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I've waited all weekend I guess I can wait until the AM to double check with the dealer before I put this one in.
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Use corvette filter
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the spin on is way easier to find filters for as it uses a corvette filter , so if you get an oil change at a drive through , they will have one in stock .
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I got all setup for my first oil change (03 C4S). Got the oil drained and went to pull the filter. The dealer told me that 996 107 225 60 was superceded by 996 107 225 53 so that is what I bought.
When I got the old filter out it is 996 107 225 60 and they don't look the same.
When I look them up on pelican I see:
for ..60: Genuine Porsche Oil Filter Insert (Filter Cartridge and Seal), 996 Carrera/Carrera 4 (2002-05), Each
for ..53: Genuine Porsche Oil Filter Insert (Filter Cartridge and Seal), 996 Carrera/Carrera 4 (1999-01), 996 Turbo (2001-2005), 997 Carrera/S/4/4S (2005- ), Cayman/Cayman S, Each
So now I'm confused and not sure I should use this filter. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Well I have read in other places that they are interchangeable but they really look to be made slightly different.
The one ending in 60 has a bit of a lip on the ends while the 53 doesn't. I guess I can call the dealer on Monday and see if they have the other one.
I am just afraid they will tell me the 53 "will work fine". I don't want it to "work fine", I want it to be the right one
I'm with you. Anyone using the spin-on filter adapter? If so, can you tell me why? It seems to make it harder to check for shrapnel filtered from the oil.
996 107 225 53 is for the M96.01/02/04 Engines and 996 107 225 60 is for M96.03 engines only. The 53 is for a 3.4 engine and the 60 is for the 3.6 liter engine. According to my Porsche manuals they are different... Whatever that's worth. I have an 02 C4S and use the 60 filter.
Frankly, I would go by what the dealer said, that is the parts department/manager assuming you supplied a VIN and the filter was selected based on the VIN.
The parts manager at my local dealer tells me that in order to get the right part a VIN must be used. Porsche ties parts numbers, parts upgrades, etc., to VINs.
For my Boxster for instance, I have found this to be the case for the battery, the windshield washer nozzles and some other items I can't recall. For the Turbo I have found the wheel part number changed and oh the coolant cap, the shifter, and I believe the clutch accumulator and clutch slave cylinder.
Anyhow, it is entirely possible that Porsche has issued some bulletin that does away with the varied filters and now has just one filter for as many engines as it will fit.
Places like Pelican I suspect do not get notices of parts number changes so its parts info is out of date.
However, I always when I change the oil in my cars I always compare the old filter to the new one to verify they are as near alike as I can tell. Mainly I look to see they're the same height, the diameters in the ends are the same (bearing in mind the old one's end holes may be enlarged from having been installed in the engine).
I know one person who ordered an oil filter from online and found it to not match what was in the car and in fact not match the filter he bought from the dealer.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I installed the LNE spin-on oil filter adapter. It takes easy-to-find filters:
Napa Gold 1042
Mobil1 M1-107
K&N Gold HP-1007
LNE claims that it does a better job than stock, but who knows. I do know that it's much easier to get filters.
I went to the garage to check the filters I have....
I know for sure I ordered these from the same place....once last year once this year
All of them have the same Mahle part no.
The old ones have -53 stamped stickers on the box
This years filters have -60 stickered on the box...
all look the same as they all have same Mahle part no.
Thanks geetee, you said they look the same, can you tell me if they look like this:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...9610722560-M45
or this
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...610722553-M100
All my filters....i've got 7 in the garage haha...are the 2nd one (-M100).
But like I mentioned above, some are -53 stickered and some -60....I don't know why....
Well hell I guess I'm worrying too much about it. I checked and the -53 is the same height overall as the -60, it just doesn't have that little lip. I've waited all weekend I guess I can wait until the AM to double check with the dealer before I put this one in.
For anyone looking for closure on this thread, I went to the dealer this morning and they said they use the 53 filter on everything now. He said that Porsche superceded the 60 with the 53.
2 days away from the car was too long!
That doesn't seem to make any sense because when only the last two digits change on the part number, the higher number is the "newer" variant. That happens frequently with Porsche parts, but I don't see how v60 gets "superseded" by v53. If you go to Suncoast Porsche's website you'll see the 996 filter they sell with their oil change kit is v60:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...ry_Code=996Oil
I really don't think a v53 oil filter will cause any problem at all, but in all likelihood the dealer just has lots of v53 in stock and they want to use them up. What would bother me is it sounds like they are just making a story up rather than being honest with you.
Well I see that the 53 is used in the newer 997s so maybe that is why? The guys at this dealer seem pretty cool and he said that is the filter they use.
I'll order some of the 60 online next oil change. This one seemed to fit well and hopefully won't ruin the motor in 5 or 6k miles
PET catalog shows v53 for the 3.4L 996 engines and v60 for the 3.6L engines (MY02-04). Also shows v53 for the 997, so go figure. I believe all these cartridge filters are pretty much the same for 911, Boxster and Cayenne and I don't think you'll have any issues whatsoever. Your dealer probably just stocks the one to keep things simple for their inventory.
Old thread, but I just had the same problem with a 53 filter that did not fit my C4S. The difference between the 53 and 60 filter is the inside diameter. Some enginges have a larger pickup tube that will not fit the 53 filter.
These cars have the small inside diameter 53 filter:
- 996 Carrera and Carrera 4 (1999-01)
- 996 Turbo and Turbo S Coupe (2001-05)
- 996 GT2 and GT3 Coupe (2002-05)
These cars need the bigger 60 filter:
- 996 Targa Targa (2002)
- 996 Carrera 4 (2002-04)
- 996 Carrera and Carrera 4S (2002-05)
it doesn�t bypass as it�s a full flow filter , you can use a filter mag with it & the stock filter housing has been known to burst in track use .
the spin on is way easier to find filters for as it uses a corvette filter , so if you get an oil change at a drive through , they will have one in stock .
A magnetic drain plug is a nice pair with it .