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I think now I have the non M030 dampers fitted I will put some H&R springs on my car.

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Install koni yellows and row m030 springs/bump stops

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I installed Koni Yellows and RoW M030 springs/bump stops when I did my suspension refresh last year.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Install m030 row setup

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The previous owner of my C4 installed the M030 ROW setup with Bilstein B8's and I am happy with the performance overall .

suspension options for Stock Height.

Replace 20 year old suspension

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I replaced the 20 year old suspension on my 03 turbo.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Replace following

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Install i will put some h&r springs

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I think now I have the non M030 dampers fitted I will put some H&R springs on my car.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Install koni yellows and row m030 springs/bump stops

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I installed Koni Yellows and RoW M030 springs/bump stops when I did my suspension refresh last year.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Install m030 row setup

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The previous owner of my C4 installed the M030 ROW setup with Bilstein B8's and I am happy with the performance overall .

suspension options for Stock Height.

Replace 20 year old suspension

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Replace following

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I replaced the following:

suspension options for Stock Height.

Replace ride height

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Springs change ride height.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Replace springs you might want

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If you decide to replace the springs you might want to consider the M030 setup .

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Replace while it is in the air

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There has been several replies like this, that help me to know what else to replace while it is in the air.

suspension options for Stock Height.

Run bilstein m030 b4 fronts

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So now running Bilstein M030 B4 fronts with M030 ROW oem springs and standard oem dampers with M030 springs.

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CentreGravity in the UK is one of the best known places for doing Porsche Geo, they have machines to test dampers on the car and they said that unless leaking hardly any oem dampers are ever shot, they still work like new.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm leaving my car at stock height. Even though these shocks have less than 40K miles, they are old so I'm wondering about my options. I'm guessing my only option is to buy new OEM shocks or rebuild mine. I was told by a performance shop that there are companies that specialize in rebuilding OEM shocks. Theyy also told me that these companies can rebuld them for performance or comfort. Is this true? What are the companies that rebuild them? Are there any other options for Stock height? Thanks

POST 2Original post

Quotes source post: 18760005

I can't imagine rebuilding the shocks (if that's even doable) is better than just replacing them with Bilstein B4s (stock replacement). I just did this. I do wonder if I should have gone the sport suspension option B6.

POST 3Original post

Just get oem there are coil over systems that don’t lower the car too drastically

POST 4Original post

What Ben8jam says: b4s for stock. While you are in there, doing that work, you might want to replace the springs, the sway bar drop links and the sway bar bushings. These items are a lot less than the b4s. Just did exactly that to replace the 21 year old original equipment and it was an improvement.

POST 5Original post

Shocks do not change ride height. Springs change ride height.

POST 6Original post

I replaced the 20 year old suspension on my 03 turbo. I replaced the following: 1. new factory coil springs 2. Bilstein B6 struts and shocks 3. 997 top hats for front struts, dust covers and new bump stops(less expensive than 996 top hats) 4. 996 top hats, bump stops and dust covers for rear shocks Rides like a new car! I am happy that I went with the B6 vs the stock B4.

POST 7Original post

I kept the original springs and replaced everything else, including all hardware. I went with Koni Special Actives instead of the Bilsteins. Just did Moonshiners 28 and the Blue Ridge Parkway near Asheville and was very happy with it. Just one perspective.

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Quotes source post: 18760179

How does it ride? Why are you wondering if you should have gone with B6s? Thanks

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

What about active suspension for 996? I used to have Koni FSD for my Audi TT and I loved it. They were comfortable in casual driving conditions, but sporty when I drove more aggressively. Anything like that for 996s?

POST 10Original post

Coilovers for set up flexibility and adjustability. Never tried them but many of the RL guys love Feals.

POST 11Original post

I have a set of JIC/ Cross that ride beautifully but do lower the car about 3/4 inch I’m in NYC and enjoyed the ride in my 99 996

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Koni Actives are available for the 996.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Not for TTs. (Should have led with that) At least that is what Koni told me.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Are they CoilOvers? if they are direct shock replacent, theoretically I can keep the height with the springs.

POST 16Original post

Yes they are coil over very plush ride and height is adjustable plus is has camber mount really a great ride

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 18760289

I'd add the bump stops and give these priority over the springs as springs don't wear/lose stiffness. If anything they break when corrosion has progressed far enough after the powder coating has failed. Would go for new B4 and not have the stock shock absorbers rebuilt if staying stock. Having the choice I'd go for Koni active

POST 18Original post

If you decide to replace the springs you might want to consider the M030 setup . Either the US or ROW spec will work .

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank youi all for your help so far. I realize this info is available, but I like bringing it all to one place and getting a lot of opinions and POVs.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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What is special about them?

POST 21Original post

Oh, yes, hardtailer is right. I replaced everything from the top mounts down including the bump stops and bellows. The spring on the driver side was a little bit shorter due to plus sized first owner. It now measures identical each side from inside center fender to center of wheel. Handling and ride are noticeably better.

POST 22Original post

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nothing�except they�re a little lower than US ride height�which the owner isn�t interested in lowering, so I dunno why it was even mentioned by a few people

POST 23Original post

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It was an option from Porsche so they were designed by the engineers for the car . Is that special ? That's for the consumer to decide . The previous owner of my C4 installed the M030 ROW setup with Bilstein B8's and I am happy with the performance overall .

POST 24Original post

I installed Koni Yellows and RoW M030 springs/bump stops when I did my suspension refresh last year. Great road setup and as someone else mentioned it is a Porsche OEM setup.

POST 25Original post

Koni is a good option, but they don't make them fro the AWD cars. I would be very careful about swapping at 40k miles. I swapped all mine, 2001 C4 coupe, last year and all my dampers were fine, and my car has done 135k miles. I had M030 dampers from the factory, and we have springs that are lower than your M030 option. I went with the Bilstein M030 B4 replacements along with new hardware, kept the original springs. Bilstein said that their damper was 15% firmer roughly than the one they supply Porsche with, the B6 is roughly 15% firmer again (albeit with better rebound etc.). To be honest I was disappointed, almost like the front end was softer than before and the back end far firmer. So much so I actually tracked down a pair of rear oem dampers that had come off a car at 50k miles. So now running Bilstein M030 B4 fronts with M030 ROW oem springs and standard oem dampers with M030 springs. This is far far better for the road, the back end no longer skips about on anything but pool table smooth roads, and it has turned it into a fairly comfy car too. If I were in your position I think I would buy new bump stops and top mounts* and some H&R springs while keeping your dampers. If when you take them out they are not returning properly, then order some non M030 Bilstein B4 dampers. But I reckon your dampers will be OK. CentreGravity in the UK is one of the best known places for doing Porsche Geo, they have machines to test dampers on the car and they said that unless leaking hardly any oem dampers are ever shot, they still work like new. I couldn't believe that after 20 years and 130k miles that would be the case, so bought new ones. They were right. Haha Remember, dampers make far more difference to how firm the car rides than springs. I think now I have the non M030 dampers fitted I will put some H&R springs on my car. Just waiting for some CV joints to come back into stock so I can convert my car to RWD, so will do the springs at the same time. I also did all my control arms at the same time, the bushes were OK, but the rubber was rock hard from ageing. So consider those too. *Do not use 997 front top mounts on the AWD cars, you will not get more than 0.5� of negative camber. They look the same, but the angle is slightly different meaning you can't get a nice negative camber up front.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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You have all been offering good info. Thank you. There has been several replies like this, that help me to know what else to replace while it is in the air. I think I will go go with a B4 set up. I don't need a racing suspension so I'm looking for comfort. Has anyone ever seen a "Progressive Spring"? Plush at the top but tightens up as the spring compresses?

POST 27Original post

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Please post a follow up when you get the B4s installed. I'd like to see ride height post installed.

POST 28Original post

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That's the exact route I plan to go.

POST 29Original post

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The B4 will sit exactly the same as stock. It is the spring that effects the ride height.

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