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YOUR RESEARCH930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

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Replace discs/pads

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They replaced the discs/pads on my car along with other small things.It is not true that they do not check the cars before resale.Spoke to a chap last weekend at the Concours at Pangbourne that has had 3 cars from Camtune,and hasn't a bad word to say about them.I can only speak as I find.They also have a very good reputation amongst Porsche Club G.B.members

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK
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Check cars they get in

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Suggestion

Apparently they don't even check the cars they get in before selling them on, so you may never know what you are getting.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK
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Leading evidence: 'Replace discs/pads' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'convertion' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check cars they get in' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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convertion

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Suspected cause

One is a factory, the other they thought was also a factory job, but has turned out to be a convertion.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

Check cars they get in

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Suggestion

Apparently they don't even check the cars they get in before selling them on, so you may never know what you are getting.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Replace front wings, bumper and bonnet

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Suggestion

I think a flatnose is just a case of replacing front wings, bumper and bonnet.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Run between them

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Suggestion

Not a lot to go wrong with the conversion apart from the headlights sticking down or up - I imagine it is the same set up as a 944 assembly, with a rod running between them to prevent 'blinking'.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK
Frequently discussed actions (4)

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Check cars they get in

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Suggestion

Apparently they don't even check the cars they get in before selling them on, so you may never know what you are getting.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Replace discs/pads

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

They replaced the discs/pads on my car along with other small things.It is not true that they do not check the cars before resale.Spoke to a chap last weekend at the Concours at Pangbourne that has had 3 cars from Camtune,and hasn't a bad word to say about them.I can only speak as I find.They also have a very good reputation amongst Porsche Club G.B.members

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Replace front wings, bumper and bonnet

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Reported fixes
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Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I think a flatnose is just a case of replacing front wings, bumper and bonnet.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Run between them

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Discussions
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Discussions that contain suggestions
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Not a lot to go wrong with the conversion apart from the headlights sticking down or up - I imagine it is the same set up as a 944 assembly, with a rod running between them to prevent 'blinking'.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK
Reported and suspected causes (1)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

convertion

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Discussions that suspect a cause
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suspected cause

One is a factory, the other they thought was also a factory job, but has turned out to be a convertion.

930 Flatnose - Page 2 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.

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28 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

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POST 1Original post

Not a lot to go wrong with the conversion apart from the headlights sticking down or up - I imagine it is the same set up as a 944 assembly, with a rod running between them to prevent 'blinking'. I think a flatnose is just a case of replacing front wings, bumper and bonnet. Nothing under there in a 911 that could be affected reliability wise. Biggest worry (after headlights) may be looking like a pimp from an eighties cop movie Domster

POST 2Original post

I've got one of these Kevin, fantastic car.I think it looks superb.Try and find out who did the convertion.Mine was by G-Force,who according to the chap at 911 Turbo register do some excellent work.If you want to see my car can you make the meet on 23/06?If I can be of any further help you can e.mail me. -Steve- >> Edited by sb930turbo on Wednesday 5th June 11:53 >> Edited by sb930turbo on Wednesday 5th June 11:54

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Dom, Steve, Thanks for this. So, problems with my image rather than the car right? Not sure what my image is so 80s undercover pimp could be an improvement It's good to hear you're so chuffed with yours Steve. You're not.... no, never mind. Much as I'd like to I can't do the 23rd (away on business) which is a damn shame not only because of this meet, but it's near Camtune and they have a little red number on their website. I'll keep an eye out for a future meet. Thanks for the offer to email you directly Steve; if you don't mind I'll take you up on it and get the lowdown on this model. Cheers Kevin

POST 4Original post

Kevin, Hate to burst your bubble but that is my car that is on the Camtune site,obviously havn't updated it!I have had the car about a month. Regards Steve

POST 5Original post

Don't let the image put you off. UV wears grey slip ons and white socks and he's got a Turbo 2

POST 6Original post

Just noticed this thread and noticed it was you Kevin, how are you mate? Actually during 1991 or so my dad got hold of one of these; supposed to be a present for my elder sister but she wrote off her car at the time and was banned for a year so it had to go. It was ours for only a about three months. Was a LHD turbo in burgundy with cream leather. It actually looked really good but I recall everyone who drove it mention that it was a scary bastard. I never drove it, only 13 at the time! Got it from LHD dealer friend and returned to him again. I always thought that was a factory car! But I do recall that there were some RUF badges and it was from Germany. Maybe RUF did the conversion??? I just remember it as always being referred to as the "flatnose 911". Liked them ever since, even though some do look really ragged now. Didn't own for long but can see it being a problem child. How comes you like all my favourite cars? Great minds and all that? Oh, and still impressed with you driving BTW!

POST 7Original post

Kevin, It's certainly exciting to drive but not as difficult to drive as my TVR Chimaera 450 was . Steve

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Steve - Noooooooo. Well all I can say is you lucky b@stard I've been salivating over that (your) car for a week. The only other one I've seen for sale is a factory flatnose. Forty + grand. In white. I don't think so. Will obviously have to settle down and be patient, which is a bit of a bugger because I don't 'do' patience. Hi Ninja! From all that's gone before, can't say it really surprises me that we like the same cars . I think these flatnoses look the absolute b******s. Scary eh? The 360 scared the cr@p out of me when I first got it and still does when it's wet. Bet the handling of your 355 gets 'interesting' then too..... I posted the videos to you & Manu yesterday, so if you haven't already got it, it should arrive tomorrow. Enjoy! I have, lots of times. Cheers Kevin

POST 9Original post

I would have said that you were the lucky B@stard having a 360 and a 456 Kevin !! Regards Steve

POST 10Original post

Thanks for the video, have been looking forward to it for the last few days, probably arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to hear the soundtrack of 355 v 360 in the tunnel. Very kind of you to make a copy! Thanks. Steve, I have to agree with you, and you haven't even seen his driving style (fast and very, very safe!). His nickname "Jammy" is so well suited! Oh, Steve your pic link doesn't work. Would love to see a pic of your car. Regards

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's here. On Camtune's website. The feckers haven't taken it off yet www.camtune.com/camsale.htm Sob

POST 12Original post

Thanks for the link Kevin,it works a treat. Steve

POST 13Original post

Love to see your motor in the flesh Ninja,can you make the meet on 23/06? Regards Steve

POST 14Original post

Thanks for the link. What a lovely car, brings back lots of memories, had the same wheels as well! Steve, where is the meet? Would love to come to the meet if its relatively close to London (lazy bastard me!). Regards

POST 15Original post

Ninja, It's quite close to London,The Parrot Inn,Forest Green nr. Dorking,Surrey at 1.30pm. See the topic 'Porsche meet/Drive' on the Porsche page,for further info/map. Regards Steve. >> Edited by sb930turbo on Thursday 6th June 18:10

POST 16Original post

Kevin A garage near me have two Flatnose Turbo's, it may be the one you mentioned. One is a factory, the other they thought was also a factory job, but has turned out to be a convertion. Both are in white. They're at Slades in Penn. Is this the one you mentioned? Gavin

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks Gavin! It sounds familiar but I can't find the ad now. Found Slades website (are they MG?) but the cars aren't on it. Thanks for the info. Cheers Kevin

POST 18Original post

I think you must have the page in your cache memory. Here is the new link to the cars for sale at Camtune and no metion on your 930. www.dealers.motortrak.com/fastcgi/gdlist.mp?template=/camtune/hitlist&dealer=19492&pn=2&starthit=0

POST 20Original post

You could say that! The old one I believe was more professional. Seems as though they have farmed it out to some other hosting company as from the URL it would suggest they do other compnaies as well. Still interested to hear Domster's comments about them.

POST 21Original post

It is actually a search engine with links to various dealers cars listed.

POST 22Original post

I can't divulge too much about the Camtune dispute on a public forum, but basically an owner of a 3.6 T2 purchased from Camtune wasn't overly happy with them. Apparently they don't even check the cars they get in before selling them on, so you may never know what you are getting. He was sold the car with a few things awry, and he had to push Camtune to get them sorted out.

POST 23Original post

I can only say that Camtune have been very good to me. They replaced the discs/pads on my car along with other small things.It is not true that they do not check the cars before resale.Spoke to a chap last weekend at the Concours at Pangbourne that has had 3 cars from Camtune,and hasn't a bad word to say about them.I can only speak as I find.They also have a very good reputation amongst Porsche Club G.B.members -Steve- >> Edited by sb930turbo on Friday 7th June 11:58 >> Edited by sb930turbo on Friday 7th June 11:59

POST 24Original post

Fair do's... the 3.6T2 owner in question may have had a bad experience with them. His name is Greg Watson if ever anyone wanted to bring it up with Camtune to hear 'their side' of the story. The facts I posted were simply as Greg relayed them to me. Rgds Dom

POST 25Original post

They used to be allmost exclusively MG, but got taken over about a year ago and now do lot's off exotica. Last time I was in there they had F355 F1, F355 Spider, 512, two Diablo VT Roadsters, GTD40, various Rolls, Aston/Lagonda, a few classic's and the Porsche's. I don't have a web site, but there e-mail is [email removed] or 01494 812115. They're normally quite a friendly bunch and will talk cars for hours. Gavin >> Edited by gavinr on Friday 7th June 13:32

POST 26Original post

Dom, I have to say that there can be obviously be some people who have bad experiences with garages(thats the motor trade for you).I will have to see how they shape up in the future. Regards Steve

POST 27Original post

Yeah, we'll just have to keep an eye on them! That's the beauty of these forums... if we don't get a decent service, we can warn others of our bad experience. Ultimately everyone has to make up their own mind, but I noticed that Rennlist had a thread criticising Micheldever Tyres recently (started the chap who was complaining about Camtune!) and I had to second the motion. Some people swear by 'em, though (not *at* them, like me!). Rgds Domster

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Are there any specific problems with this variant? I understand that most of them are after market conversions. I really do prefer the look of this version over the standard 911, but I'd like to know if it's likely to be a problem child before taking it any further. Ta Kevin

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