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It was the registration number shown on your photos that were confusing me because I had that number down as being used on the press car at some time .
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The car only had the rear cage fitted , never the front.
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Ditchvisitor on here owns the Manthey K400 Speed Yellow car that recently changed hands.
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It was the registration number shown on your photos that were confusing me because I had that number down as being used on the press car at some time .
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( not the one recently posted - I think that is the press car but need to do more checking)
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We own one of the 28 which was put into storage by the previous owner for a number of years and I am now conducting a thorough overhaul of all systems and using the car throughout the summer - back on the road where it belongs!
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It was the registration number shown on your photos that were confusing me because I had that number down as being used on the press car at some time .
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It was the registration number shown on your photos that were confusing me because I had that number down as being used on the press car at some time .
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I know this has been attempted before over the years but I am trying to put together a definitive list of the 28 RHD C16 Clubsports and would appreciate any assistance you can give.
To date we have 18 cars on the database in various degrees of completeness. For some we have all the information and for others just an old sales advert , for example, that provides enough detail to identify it but not the full details.
So if you own one of the cars or know someone who does then we would love to hear from you .
We own one of the 28 which was put into storage by the previous owner for a number of years and I am now conducting a thorough overhaul of all systems and using the car throughout the summer - back on the road where it belongs!
These are such rare and important cars that one day the wider Porsche fraternity will wake up to the fact that they need to be documented and take their place in Porsche history.
I have owned a number of road and track cars over the last 45years but the Clubsport is the best car I have ever owned. A Joy to drive!
Looking forward to seeing how many are still out there.
I know the location of a Speed Yellow (Non-Manthey modified) C16 ClubSport here in Cheshire. We were always lead to believe there were only 3 x SY cars, and I believe the other two are K410 (?) modified.
I believe one of the other SY cars changed hands recently and could possibly be in Ireland now?
jackwood said:
I know the location of a Speed Yellow (Non-Manthey modified) C16 ClubSport here in Cheshire. We were always lead to believe there were only 3 x SY cars, and I believe the other two are K410 (?) modified.
I believe one of the other SY cars changed hands recently and could possibly be in Ireland now?
Thanks for this …..Yes, we have 3 SY cars on the list and some details about the two K400 cars and the owners but all I have for this other car is the fact that it exists and a first name of the possible owner, so if you can get the current owner to contact us that would be great . Thanks Ponters
Slippydiff said:
Ditchvisitor on here owns the Manthey K400 Speed Yellow car that recently changed hands.
Not in Ireland any longer.
Thanks , am I right in thinking that you previously owned one a few years ago?
I owned a couple ... very special cars ... one bought in Scotland required quite a bit of work even though it was only just outside Porsche extended warranty ...
The other was a very low mileage silver car with full documentation ...
A beautiful car which still had the original PPF on the bonnet ... the earliest version that wasn't wide enough to cover the bonet in less than two strips !!
ChrisW. said:
I owned a couple ... very special cars ... one bought in Scotland required quite a bit of work even though it was only just outside Porsche extended warranty ...
The other was a very low mileage silver car with full documentation ...
Thanks for the pics . I am aware of the Zanzibar car and the previous owner just looking for the current one .
Both stunning cars . The silver car looks mint !
I am not sure I know this car but it might be one of my 4 silver cars on an original number . Do you know who has it now by chance?
Alex who runs the PCGB GT3 section has a silver one.
He's had it for years and it's well used, I think he was at Spa last summer in it.
Contactable through PCGB.
ponters said:
jackwood said:
I know the location of a Speed Yellow (Non-Manthey modified) C16 ClubSport here in Cheshire. We were always lead to believe there were only 3 x SY cars, and I believe the other two are K410 (?) modified.
I believe one of the other SY cars changed hands recently and could possibly be in Ireland now?
Thanks for this …..Yes, we have 3 SY cars on the list and some details about the two K400 cars and the owners but all I have for this other car is the fact that it exists and a first name of the possible owner, so if you can get the current owner to contact us that would be great . Thanks Ponters
I’ve sent you an email.
Jack
ponters said:
Both stunning cars . The silver car looks mint !
I am not sure I know this car but it might be one of my 4 silver cars on an original number . Do you know who has it now by chance?
Via a point of contact (if it works) I have sent a link to this topic ... good luck !
LemonTart said:
Alex who runs the PCGB GT3 section has a silver one.
He's had it for years and it's well used, I think he was at Spa last summer in it.
Contactable through PCGB.
Thanks ! I have spoken to Alex and just given him a short article for Porsche post to see if we can get some more owners to come forward from PCGB.
I have one of the SY Manthey K400 ones up in Aberdeen, it was actually originally bought from the Aberdeen OPC back in 1998, but later spent most of it's life 'down south' I believe. Current reg no K400 CS courtesy of a nice gent on this thread
I met up with another SY K400, it was in NI but back in mainland UK again I believe, and a blue CS last year for a Scottish Highland tour last April, along with 2 other 996.1 cars, a brilliant trip.
A couple of pictures and link to a video :
Video -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLimeOxV4Sc
Sandy59 said:
I have one of the SY Manthey K400 ones up in Aberdeen, it was actually originally bought from the Aberdeen OPC back in 1998, but later spent most of it's life 'down south' I believe. Current reg no K400 CS courtesy of a nice gent on this thread
I met up with another SY K400, it was in NI but back in mainland UK again I believe, and a blue CS last year for a Scottish Highland tour last April, along with 2 other 996.1 cars, a brilliant trip.
A couple of pictures and link to a video :
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLimeOxV4Sc
Hi Sandy
Thanks for making contact .
I have your car on the register with its reg number together with the cobalt car and other SY from your adventures in Scotland .
I wonder if you might let me have the date of registration and last four numbers of the vin ? The hope is we can produce a chronological list of the cars. Happy to hear via email or PM.
Thanks
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ponters said:
Thanks , am I right in thinking that you previously owned one a few years ago?
Yep, a Guards red example.
And me before you … the source of my user name all those years ago ….
M1ke77 said:
The Cobalt one - had it nearly 3 years. Still puts a big smile on my face each time I turn the key??
Fab car - looks stunning . Thanks for your help Mike.
As it stands this is where we currently are with a total of 19 cars . ( subject to checking a couple out further )
Thank you all for your help and support .
I have also set up an Instagram account @996.1GT3Clubsport to provide a point of contact and happy to post images of the cars as and when owners agree.
Guards Red - 3
Speed Yellow - 3
Bairritz White -1
Zanzibar Red - 2
Black - 2
Silver - 6
Iris Blue - 1
Cobalt Blue - 1
kevs 172 said:
Hi, this is an old one of mine?
Thanks for this , lovely car - not sure I have this one yet. Do you still own it, have any details or know where it is now? Thanks in advance.
ponters said:
kevs 172 said:
Hi, this is an old one of mine?
Thanks for this , lovely car - not sure I have this one yet. Do you still own it, have any details or know where it is now? Thanks in advance.
Hi Ponters, no I sold it about 5 years ago. Not sure who owns it now but it will be back on its original wheels as I kept the Lm`s.
I do still own the Zanzibar Clubsport though.
Cheers
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Legacywr said:
Isn’t one of the SY cars a RUF?
I am not aware of that.
A friend has a RHD, SY 996 RUF, I’m sure he said it was based on a clubsport.
kevs 172 said:
Hi Ponters, no I sold it about 5 years ago. Not sure who owns it now but it will be back on its original wheels as I kept the Lm`s.
I do still own the Zanzibar Clubsport though.
Cheers
I will message you,
Legacywr said:
My mistake, it’s a Turbo, but could it be clubsport spec?
GT2 Clubsport with a Ruf fettled engine?
Sweet
I think the 996 GT2 is the best looking modern GT2
I have been working on the register list and of the 19 individual cars identified so far there are 2 that I need more details about.
1. We know there are at least 2 Zanzibar cars and I think one was owned by a guy called Steve Bassington at one time but I have been unable to track this car down and it has also been suggested that a Zanzibar car was written off. Any info would be welcomed .
2. I also have a black car that was, or is still, owned by Damian Markland reg D17MOM from Preston . This is a GT3 but as yet I have been unable to establish if it’s a CS.
Any help on the above or any other cars would be welcomed .
Happy driving - we were out and about with ours in the sun yesterday!
ponters said:
I have been working on the register list and of the 19 individual cars identified so far there are 2 that I need more details about.
1. We know there are at least 2 Zanzibar cars and I think one was owned by a guy called Steve Bassington at one time but I have been unable to track this car down and it has also been suggested that a Zanzibar car was written off. Any info would be welcomed .
2. I also have a black car that was, or is still, owned by Damian Markland reg D17MOM from Preston . This is a GT3 but as yet I have been unable to establish if it’s a CS.
Any help on the above or any other cars would be welcomed .
Happy driving - we were out and about with ours in the sun yesterday!
Steve Bassington's Zanzibar car was a Manthey K400 equipped example with Cargraphic wheels.
He's not posted on the Porsche forum for many years now.
He no longer resides in the UK, having first moved to South Africa and then to Canada.
He may still own the car, I seem to recall he said it was stored at his Dad's house in the UK.
This is it pictured at my place in 2007 :
And images of his car (I think) at JZ Machtech having the Manthey K400 exhaust fitted :
I have been working on the infamous number 28 for the number of these UK CS cars but does anyone know where this came from and if its an estimate or factual?
ponters said:
I have been working on the infamous number 28 for the number of these UK CS cars but does anyone know where this came from and if its an estimate or factual?
It's factual. As is the number of 996 GT2 Clubsports frequently quoted on the interwebz. They're rare cars, though the differences between a Clubsport and a "Comfort" spec car aren't massive in the big scheme of things, but ultimately, in the Porsche world, rarity often matters and means more collectable.
ponters said:
Thanks for this …. At least I have an image of it now and if anyone has the reg that would be very helpful.
PM me for the reg of Steve Bassingtons car.
Slippydiff said:
ponters said:
I have been working on the infamous number 28 for the number of these UK CS cars but does anyone know where this came from and if its an estimate or factual?
It's factual. As is the number of 996 GT2 Clubsports frequently quoted on the interwebz. They're rare cars, though the differences between a Clubsport and a "Comfort" spec car aren't massive in the big scheme of things, but ultimately, in the Porsche world, rarity often matters and means more collectable.
But the 996.1 GT3 Clubsport was the RS of this version ? It even came with the front section of the roll cage as standard (a dealer fit item).
The 996.2 GT3RS was then an even more different car from the 996.2 GT3 ... but still ...
ChrisW. said:
But the 996.1 GT3 Clubsport was the RS of this version ? It even came with the front section of the roll cage as standard (a dealer fit item).
The 996.2 GT3RS was then an even more different car from the 996.2 GT3 ... but still ...
No engine upgrades Chris, no lightweight panels, no different spoilers or bumpers, no suspension changes, nor lightweight glass either.
996.1 Clubsport modifications limited to single-mass flywheel, bolt in cage, door airbag delete, Nomex seat coverings, electrical cutout, centre console delete.
The 996.2 GT3 RS was a very different concept altogether.
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ChrisW. said:
But the 996.1 GT3 Clubsport was the RS of this version ? It even came with the front section of the roll cage as standard (a dealer fit item).
The 996.2 GT3RS was then an even more different car from the 996.2 GT3 ... but still ...
No engine upgrades Chris, no lightweight panels, no different spoilers or bumpers, no suspension changes, nor lightweight glass either.
996.1 Clubsport modifications limited to single-mass flywheel, bolt in cage, door airbag delete, Nomex seat coverings, electrical cutout, centre console delete.
The 996.2 GT3 RS was a very different concept altogether.
Well the rear spoiler did have the black Gurney type lip that the standard car did not have ... but look at the 997.1 GT3 Vs. GT3RS against your list that the 996.1 GT3 CS did not have ... accepted that the 996.2 GT3RS was a very special car ... ??
ChrisW. said:
Well the rear spoiler did have the black Gurney type lip that the standard car did not have ... but look at the 997.1 GT3 Vs. GT3RS against your list that the 996.1 GT3 CS did not have ... accepted that the 996.2 GT3RS was a very special car ... ??
All my “Comfort” Mk 1’s had the black Gurney flap on the rear wing. They might have been an option on the Comfort spec cars, but I’m dubious …
Slippydiff said:
All my “Comfort” Mk 1’s had the black Gurney flap on the rear wing. They might have been an option on the Comfort spec cars, but I’m dubious …
My factory Mk 1 comfort had the Gurney flap also.
The black Manthey modded car (yes, it has a CS cage fitted, but it's not a factory supplied CS car) :
First Zanzibar car :
And the same after a sub-zero outing with huge amounts of salt/grit on the roads (I know, the shame of it, driving the car when the sun's not out and the temps above 25 degrees C, disgraceful)
Second Zanzibar car (yes, it too has a CS cage fitted, but it's not a factory supplied CS car) :
The Speed yellow car :
And as Jeremy said, his car had the Gurney flap too, so I'm pretty sure they all had them irrespective of whether they were factory CS or Comfort spec.
Another one for Ponters list ? One of one (worldwide) Rubystone UK C16 996.1 GT3. It appears to have a Clubsport cage, but I'm not sure if it was a factory supplied CS. Can anyone remember if it was ?
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Then it's possible that it was Techquipment 996 wing that did not have the gurney flap ... I'm happy to be corrected.
As for the 997.1 GT3 Vs RS ... I had to look this up ... Front splitter and rear wing added 88 pounds of downforce at 186 mph, wheels and tyres and engine were the same (though with single mass flywheel) ... the rear track was 1.3 inches wider with slightly longer two piece suspension links and the wheelbase a fifth of an inch longer, and adjustments to spring rates and PASM with forged front uprights. The car had a Lexan rear window and the bonnet was carbon fibre ... saving a total of 44lbs so long as the aircon was deleted ... but it did have five lug wheels !
This is surely one of the reasons why the 997.2 GT3RS is so favoured with its 3.8 engine etc ... ' last of the Mezger (discounting the 600 4.0 litres).
The 996.1 GT3 CS was the proof of a unique concept that has become GT3 RS .... compare it to the previous RS the 993RS ? The Clubsport version of that car had a stripped interior with welded full roll cage but the vin numbers were in the same series as the Lightweight RS ... whilst the 964RS Clubsport which also had a stripped interior with welded full roll cage had a different vin number series from the Lightweight and Touring versions ... both with the same 964RS and 993RS engines and transmissions / glass / bodywork ... excluding the 993RS Clubsport option pack.
Porsche were finding their way !!
The 1999/2000 996.1 GT3 CS homologated the 996 GT3R endurance racer until in 2004 the 996.2 GT3RS homologated the 996 GT3RSR which brought with it the sequential gearbox ... etc.
Take a look ..
http://gt3r.com/intro.html
To summarise ...
"Launched at the Geneva Salon during March '99, the GT3 was an immediate hit with the press and public alike, the former widely hailing this new hot rod 911 as one of the finest incarnations of a legendary model whose history has spanned over thirty-five years. Although only twenty right-hand drive models were initially going to be available from May 1999, a handful of additional UK cars were later completed but, whilst rare in Europe, the GT3 is even more scarce in the USA where it was outlawed from sale. This really was a 911 of the highest order."
Clearly this statement does not include the 996.1 GT3 in comfort spec ... though there were only 100? odd of those ...
"996.1 GT3 - 1868 total, of which 106 UK C16 (only 28 of which were specced as Clubsports) out of a global total of 308 RHD and of course 0 US C02."
Edited by ChrisW. on Saturday 22 March 17:07
Yes I give-in
As for colours ....
The UK RHD Mk1 came in the following colours (numbers of each indicated)
34 Arctic Silver
13 Black
4 Polar Silver
1 Biarritz White
18 Speed Yellow
15 Guards Red
1 Cobalt Blue
9 Zanzibar
6 Iris Blue
1 Ocean Blue
1 Forest Green
1 Blue Metallic (a Renault Blue)
1 Rubystone
1 Blue Turquoise
Slippydiff said:
Another one for Ponters list ? One of one (worldwide) Rubystone UK C16 996.1 GT3. It appears to have a Clubsport cage, but I'm not sure if it was a factory supplied CS. Can anyone remember if it was ?
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I have just got off the phone to Gary Bullen and he says it was a factory CS and he says there was a turquoise one and the Renault blue one was also a CS …… Now to track them down .
ChrisW. said:
Then it's possible that it was Techquipment 996 wing that did not have the gurney flap ... I'm happy to be corrected.
As for the 997.1 GT3 Vs RS ... I had to look this up ... Front splitter and rear wing added 88 pounds of downforce at 186 mph, wheels and tyres and engine were the same (though with single mass flywheel) ... the rear track was 1.3 inches wider with slightly longer two piece suspension links and the wheelbase a fifth of an inch longer, and adjustments to spring rates and PASM with forged front uprights. The car had a Lexan rear window and the bonnet was carbon fibre ... saving a total of 44lbs so long as the aircon was deleted ... but it did have five lug wheels !
This is surely one of the reasons why the 997.2 GT3RS is so favoured with its 3.8 engine etc ... ' last of the Mezger (discounting the 600 4.0 litres).
The 996.1 GT3 CS was the proof of a unique concept that has become GT3 RS .... compare it to the previous RS the 993RS ? The Clubsport version of that car had a stripped interior with welded full roll cage but the vin numbers were in the same series as the Lightweight RS ... whilst the 964RS Clubsport which also had a stripped interior with welded full roll cage had a different vin number series from the Lightweight and Touring versions ... both with the same 964RS and 993RS engines and transmissions / glass / bodywork ... excluding the 993RS Clubsport option pack.
Porsche were finding their way !!
The 1999/2000 996.1 GT3 CS homologated the 996 GT3R endurance racer until in 2004 the 996.2 GT3RS homologated the 996 GT3RSR which brought with it the sequential gearbox ... etc.
Take a look ..
http://gt3r.com/intro.html
To summarise ...
"Launched at the Geneva Salon during March '99, the GT3 was an immediate hit with the press and public alike, the former widely hailing this new hot rod 911 as one of the finest incarnations of a legendary model whose history has spanned over thirty-five years. Although only twenty right-hand drive models were initially going to be available from May 1999, a handful of additional UK cars were later completed but, whilst rare in Europe, the GT3 is even more scarce in the USA where it was outlawed from sale. This really was a 911 of the highest order."
Clearly this statement does not include the 996.1 GT3 in comfort spec ... though there were only 100? odd of those ...
"996.1 GT3 - 1868 total, of which 106 UK C16 (only 28 of which were specced as Clubsports) out of a global total of 308 RHD and of course 0 US C02.
I’d like to know where your information comes from with regards to the 997.1 GT3 RS rear track width ? My understanding was that the increase was solely a function of the rear wheels having different offsets compared to the n/b 997.1 GT3. But you’re correct, the rear suspension of the RS did feature the two piece, split adjustable coffin arms, whereas the GT3 didn’t
ditchvisitor said:
You can buy them direct from Porsche for not silly money, I think I paid £600 for a set a few years back.
Thanks will make some enquires
ponters said:
Thanks will make some enquires
Fronts :
https://www.rosepassion.com/en/diagrams-porsche-99...
Rears :
https://www.rosepassion.com/en/diagrams-porsche-99...
You should be able to get 10% off your local OPC.
Slippydiff said:
Fronts :
https://www.rosepassion.com/en/diagrams-porsche-99...
Rears :
https://www.rosepassion.com/en/diagrams-porsche-99...
You should be able to get 10% off your local OPC.
Thanks
We are now 20!
I have now established the identity and have been contacted by the owner of the other Zanzibar car so 19 have become 20 …….
So, just looking for 8 missing cars now .
New lead! Can anyone help.
I was chatting to Brian and Steve Winstone at the weekend and Brian said that he bought a Speed Yellow 996.1 clubsport new from Hatfield Porsche and that the car was part ex’d when he swapped it for the 996.2 . The car only had the rear cage fitted , never the front. He believes the car is still in the hands of the second owners who keeps it in immaculate condition and occasionally shows it at events . Brian and Steve were invited guests of Porsche back in the day when the silver press car was used to give track laps at Donnington Park driven by 3 times Le Mans winner Allan NcNish. Was anyone else there and are there any photos knocking around of the day ?
If anyone can help track this additional Speed Yellow car down that would be very helpful. Or perhaps someone has a contact at Porsche Hatield?
Not sure if this will help, but I was re-reading an old EVO, Issue 36, October 2001 and there was a black 996.1 CS with the registration V865KDM in it.
The article was called "911 Heaven" and done to coincide with the release of the 996 GT2.
The contenders were:
'73 2.7 RS "Lightweight"
'74 3.0 RS
'85 959
'87 Clubsport
'91 964 RS
'94 993 GT "Comfort"
'95 993 RS
'99 996 GT3 CS
'00 996 Turbo
'01 GT2 CS
A bit of recency bias going on there.
Further to my post on 15th May we have now tracked down the speed yellow car I have been searching for . So we now have 21 of the 28 cars on the register .
I also have information that we are still missing another Speed yellow car . There were 5 CS cars produced in this colour and I currently only have 4 on the register .
Just 7 left to find !
Great day out at Porsches by the lake today and another 996 GT3 CS identified - not at the event - this brings the total to 22 and just 6 more to find .
Could you list what those are ? I was aware of (I believe) the door mirror and boot / bonnet locks of the second batch cars that were a half way to the 996.2 GT3 ??
ChrisW. said:
Could you list what those are ? I was aware of (I believe) the door mirror and boot / bonnet locks of the second batch cars that were a half way to the 996.2 GT3 ??
I wouldn’t have said those second batch cars were halfway to a 996.2 GT3
ChrisW. said:
Could you list what those are ? I was aware of (I believe) the door mirror and boot / bonnet locks of the second batch cars that were a half way to the 996.2 GT3 ??
Hi Chris , these are just parts supply differences rather than major design changes . My car is a late first batch and the yellow a very early 1st batch car, so I am not talking about 2nd batch cars here. But the roll cage on the early car has ‘keeper’ loops for the harness belts and there are some minor differences to brackets in the engine bay.
Edited by ponters on Monday 18th August 17:44
ponters said:
Pleasure to meet the owner and view this fabulous CS which is a multiple concours winner . Originally sprinted the car has been kept in immaculate condition by its current and only 2nd owner . This car is one of the first batch of 7 imported into the uk and it was interesting to see some subtle differences between our 2 cars .
Edited by ponters on Monday 18th August 17:45
PRO5T said:
I wouldn’t have said those second batch cars were halfway to a 996.2 GT3
I think the inference is the boot and engine cover releases fitted to them were the 996.2 electronic items, and the roof lining was Alcantara. All were 996.2 "upgrades".
Beaver said:
I owned this one back in 2002, had the full cage and non-standard lip on the rear wing.
Sold it to a PHer in 2003, I think.
That different/bigger wing section was a Cargraphic part
Beaver said:
I owned this one back in 2002, had the full cage and non-standard lip on the rear wing.
Sold it to a PHer in 2003, I think.
Can you recall where you bought the car and anything you were told about it?
Only that I was the second owner, and had to track the front section of the cage to the original OPC, who couriered it to me.
Pretty sure I’ve got a file of paperwork somewhere and will dig it out.
Beaver said:
Only that I was the second owner, and had to track the front section of the cage to the original OPC, who couriered it to me.
Pretty sure I’ve got a file of paperwork somewhere and will dig it out.
Thanks it would be great if you could. I have an idea now that we have the car on the register but I would need the vin or early history to be sure . I think it was a very early car. Best Mark
Slippydiff said:
Another one for Ponters list ? One of one (worldwide) Rubystone UK C16 996.1 GT3. It appears to have a Clubsport cage, but I'm not sure if it was a factory supplied CS. Can anyone remember if it was ?
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I feel sure this is a genuine CS and have been told it is but I have not added it to the confirmed list of 22 cars yet . Someone must know where it is and any help in finding the owner and details would be appriciated . All I know is a guy called Eddie owned it ‘back in the day’.
ponters said:
HELP NEEDED!
I feel sure this is a genuine CS and have been told it is but I have not added it to the confirmed list of 22 cars yet . Someone must know where it is and any help in finding the owner and details would be appriciated . All I know is a guy called Eddie owned it ‘back in the day’.
One family owner from new. The Dad ordered it from an OPC having seen either a 964 RS or 965 Turbo in the same colour.
The OPC willingly took the order and as I understand it, it was signed by both parties...
When the factory received the order, they contacted the dealer and told them they couldn't supply the car in that colour, as it wasn't a 996 colour, only a 964/965 colour, this "by order of the management".
The OPC contacted the gentleman that had ordered the car and said they couldn't supply a 996 GT3 in that colour.
To which he replied, I have a signed order that says you'll supply me with that car, in that colour, and that's a legally binding contract.
OPC tells Stuttgart they have to build the car. Stuttgart says no.
OPC contacts the gentleman that ordered the car and tells him he can't have it in that colour. Gentleman threatens OPC with legal action for breach of contract ...
Situation gets messy, Stuttgart builds the only 996 ever manufactured in Rubystone ...
I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but as I understand it the son now owns the car as his father passed some years ago.
The one person who may be able to get in contact with, or confirm the owner, is Matt the former proprietor of Fearnsport.
Slippydiff said:
One family owner from new. The Dad ordered it from an OPC having seen either a 964 RS or 965 Turbo in the same colour.
The OPC willingly took the order and as I understand it, it was signed by both parties...
When the factory received the order, they contacted the dealer and told them they couldn't supply the car in that colour, as it wasn't a 996 colour, only a 964/965 colour, this "by order of the management".
The OPC contacted the gentleman that had ordered the car and said they couldn't supply a 996 GT3 in that colour.
To which he replied, I have a signed order that says you'll supply me with that car, in that colour, and that's a legally binding contract.
OPC tells Stuttgart they have to build the car. Stuttgart says no.
OPC contacts the gentleman that ordered the car and tells him he can't have it in that colour. Gentleman threatens OPC with legal action for breach of contract ...
Situation gets messy, Stuttgart builds the only 996 ever manufactured in Rubystone ...
I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but as I understand it the son now owns the car as his father passed some years ago.
The one person who may be able to get in contact with, or confirm the owner, is Matt the former proprietor of Fearnsport.
H, Thanks for this info! I will try contacting Matt then . If you have a number can you email it to me .
I am currently focused on hunting down this Rubistone car , the final SY one and another Silver car that has popped into the equation . ( not the one recently posted - I think that is the press car but need to do more checking)
Thanks for everyone’s continued support.
ponters said:
Slippydiff said:
One family owner from new. The Dad ordered it from an OPC having seen either a 964 RS or 965 Turbo in the same colour.
The OPC willingly took the order and as I understand it, it was signed by both parties...
When the factory received the order, they contacted the dealer and told them they couldn't supply the car in that colour, as it wasn't a 996 colour, only a 964/965 colour, this "by order of the management".
The OPC contacted the gentleman that had ordered the car and said they couldn't supply a 996 GT3 in that colour.
To which he replied, I have a signed order that says you'll supply me with that car, in that colour, and that's a legally binding contract.
OPC tells Stuttgart they have to build the car. Stuttgart says no.
OPC contacts the gentleman that ordered the car and tells him he can't have it in that colour. Gentleman threatens OPC with legal action for breach of contract ...
Situation gets messy, Stuttgart builds the only 996 ever manufactured in Rubystone ...
I hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but as I understand it the son now owns the car as his father passed some years ago.
The one person who may be able to get in contact with, or confirm the owner, is Matt the former proprietor of Fearnsport.
H, Thanks for this info! I will try contacting Matt then . If you have a number can you email it to me .
I am currently focused on hunting down this Rubistone car , the final SY one and another Silver car that has popped into the equation . ( not the one recently posted - I think that is the press car but need to do more checking)
Thanks for everyone’s continued support.
Email sent.
ponters said:
Beaver said:
I owned this one back in 2002, had the full cage and non-standard lip on the rear wing.
Sold it to a PHer in 2003, I think.
Can you recall where you bought the car and anything you were told about it?
OK, bought it 01/08/2002 from Evans Halshaw Porsche Little Aston, with 12,000 miles on it.
Chassis ends 0743, first registered 18/11/99.
Paid £65k.
I can remember it needed a new clutch which was done under warranty just after I bought it, at Hatfield OPC, and that I had the passenger harness fitted.
Beaver said:
OK, bought it 01/08/2002 from Evans Halshaw Porsche Little Aston, with 12,000 miles on it.
Chassis ends 0743, first registered 18/11/99.
Paid £65k.
I can remember it needed a new clutch which was done under warranty just after I bought it, at Hatfield OPC, and that I had the passenger harness fitted.
Thanks for taking the trouble to do this . I do have that car 0743 on the register and the current owner contacted me a coupe of weeks ago , so it’s alive and well! It was the registration number shown on your photos that were confusing me because I had that number down as being used on the press car at some time . But the press car is a much earlier vin .
Thanks for your help.
Ponters
andylaight said:
Slightly off threadish but any recommendations for someone who'd travel to carry out a ppi on a car in south east?
TIA
Which is the car? We know a lot of them in our 996 GT3 WhatsApp group, if you want somebody good though I'd recommend Ian at Prepworks-he owns two (including my old one!) and really nows his stuff!
andylaight said:
Car is the iris blue one at Ashgoods, reg V765FEL
That went through Collecting Cars last month.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2000-porsche-9...
The document also states there were 5 SY Clubsports . This is as official as I have seen and have no reason to doubt its authenticity . So it looks like there is one more to find.
I have just had confirmation that this is a genuine CS so that takes the total known to 23 and 6 left to find !
Thank you for all your continued support.
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