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YOUR RESEARCHTiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

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Check levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual

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I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!
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Check engine mil

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8 - Check Engine MIL

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Leading evidence: 'Check levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'hall effect sensor, look' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check engine mil' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace filter so

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I’ve already removed the pan and replaced the filter so that part is easy I’m just a little scared about removing the valve block, we’ll see when I get the availability/cost of the parts thanks again

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Replace fluid and filter in box

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Use these guys

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I used these guys when I rebuilt my 5HP24

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

hall effect sensor, look

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Suspected cause

It's two wire, so probably a hall effect sensor, look for a sine wave signal.

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!
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Check engine mil

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Suggestion

8 - Check Engine MIL

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Check levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Check on wiring

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Suggestion · Original poster

I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Replace filter so

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Discussions
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I’ve already removed the pan and replaced the filter so that part is easy I’m just a little scared about removing the valve block, we’ll see when I get the availability/cost of the parts thanks again

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Replace fluid and filter in box

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Unsuccessful attempts
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Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!

Use these guys

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Discussions
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Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I used these guys when I rebuilt my 5HP24

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!
Reported and suspected causes (1)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

hall effect sensor, look

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Suspected cause

It's two wire, so probably a hall effect sensor, look for a sine wave signal.

Tiptronic Problems 5HP19?!
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi Everybody I need some advice/help. I have a 996/1 1999 with the 5HP19 ZF 5 speed auto gearbox, driving along and auto box looses all power (and 4gear light and drive light flashes).switch off engine and restart no drive at all. In manual mode starts off in 2nd gear (no Drive) only selects 1st &2nd but without any drive. if I take revs to app. 4k then 4th and D lights flash EBD2 codes reveal P0717 & P0722 both refer to "input speed sensor?" fault I have changed the fluid and filter in box, checked levels (took approximately 5.5-6litres) done a visual check on wiring to multi plug & gear link wiring ive read alot online but just don't know where to start Im a fairly good mechanic used to working on older cars and auto electrics. I just want some guidance when to start like where are pins 16,23,44 located etc. Or do I just take the box out and have it rebuilt ?

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1 - Heating of HO2S after TWC 2 - Idle air control valve, closing coil 3 - Fuel injector, cylinder 1 4 - Fuel injector, cylinder 2 5 - Fuel injector, cylinder 3 6 - Ground point 9 7 - EVAP canister shutoff valve 8 - Check Engine MIL 9 - not assigned 10 - not assigned 11 - not assigned 12 - Crash signal (airbag) 13 - knock sensor 1 (cyl. 1-3) 14 - Medium pressure switch (A/C) 15 - Intake air temperature sensor 16 - Engine compartment temperature sensor 17 - Signal, mass air flow sensor 18 - Signal, H02S 2 ahead of TWC 19 - Signal, HO2S 1 ahead of TWC 20 - Ground, speed sender 21 - Signal, camshaft position sensor 1 + 2 22 - Ignition coil, cyl. 4 terminal 1 23 - Ignition coil, cyl. 3 terminal 1 24 - Ignition coil, cyl. 5 terminal 1 25 - Camshaft adjustment, bank 2 26 - Terminal 30 27 - Triggering of DME relay, terminal 85 28 - Ground, electronic system (shield) 29 - Idle air control valve opening coil 30 - Heating of HO2S ahead of TWC 31 - Fuel injector, cylinder 6 32 - Fuel injector, cylinder 4 33 - Fuel injector, cylinder 5 34 - Ground, sender 35 - Coolant fan, stage 1 36 - Coolant fan, stage 2 37 - Triggering of relay (terminal 85), secondary air pump 38 - Version coding (ground for Tiptronic) 39 - Fuel reserve pilot light 40 - not assigned 41 - Knock sensor 2 (cyl. 4-6) 42 - Automatic I/M test 43 - not assigned 44 - Signal, throttle position sensor 45 - Ground, mass air flow sensor 46 - Ground, oxygen sensors 47 - 5-volt supply for mass air flow sensor 48 - Nominal engine torque to TC control module 49 - Ignition coil, cyl. 1 terminal 1 50 - Ignition coil, cyl. 6 terminal 1 51 - Ignition coil, cyl. 2 terminal 1 52 - Camshaft adjustment, bank 1 53 - 5-volt supply, throttle position sensor 54 - Voltage supply for various components 55 - Ground, ignition 56 - Terminal 15 57 - not assigned 58 - Actual engine torque from TC control module 59 - Tuning flap (intake manifold switchover) 60 - Programming voltage 61 - EVAP canister purge valve 62 - A/C compressor On 63 - Triggering of fuel pump relay (terminal 85) 64 - not assigned 65 - Relay of engine compartment purge fan (terminal 85) 66 - Start-inhibit relay (terminal 85) 67 - not assigned 68 - Position switch/clutch switch 69 - A/C compressor requirement 70 - not assigned 71 - Ground, knock sensors 72 - Tank pressure sensor 73 - Oil temperature sensor 74 - Engine coolant temperature sensor 75 - not assigned 76 - Signal, H025 2 after TWC 77 - Signal, H025 1 after TWC 78 - Signal, rpm crankshaft position sensor 79 - Speed signal from ABS control module 80 - Speed signal output 81 - not assigned 82 - Coolant level 83 - Fuel gauge 84 - not assigned 85 - CAN low 86 - CAN high 87 - L wire 88 - K wire

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16,23,44 are pins on the transmission ECU: Workshop manuals and wiring diagrams can be found here and make life *much* easier!: 996 Workshop Manuals I would start the engine with a scope across 16 and 44. It's two wire, so probably a hall effect sensor, look for a sine wave signal. If no signal then it's dead and needs to be replaced. In fact, ZF Parts catalogue shows it is a Hall effect ( https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemedia/pdfc-media/pdfc-files/pdfc-downloads-1/2017-2/pdfc-5hp19.pdf ): The parts catalogue shows the sensor is above the valve block, so that would need to come out. I don't think there are any seals between the valve body and transmission - it relies on the surface finish of the faces, OIl is probably Esso LT71141, the same as the 5HP24. It's a fairly invasive job, but as you're not splitting the valve block (make sure you don't undo all the bolts!) it just requires care and cleanliness. I used these guys when I rebuilt my 5HP24 https://www.jpat.co.uk/ . Hope this helps

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for that. I’ve got in contact with ZF in Nottingham to see if they carry any parts and a general internet search as well. I’ve already removed the pan and replaced the filter so that part is easy I’m just a little scared about removing the valve block, we’ll see when I get the availability/cost of the parts thanks again

POST 5Original post

It could be wiring not sensor - so worth completing the diagnosis before throwing parts at it. If you don't have a scope a multimeter on AC should do the job. JPAT were great when I dealt with them, so worth a call with the part number if it is needed.

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