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YOUR RESEARCHMissfire missery

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Replace coil pack as there was some signs of perishing

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So off to Parr this time ,yes cylinder 6 so they replaced the coil pack as there was some signs of perishing on two coils.

Missfire missery
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Leading evidence: 'Replace coil pack as there was some signs of perishing' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'coil packs (so replaced most of those)' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace coil pack as there was some signs of perishing' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace most of those)

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

Replace of them)

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

coil packs (so replaced most of those)

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Suspected cause

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

tappets (so replaced all of them)

Suggestion or failed attempt

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Suspected cause

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery
Frequently discussed actions (7)

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Replace coil pack as there was some signs of perishing

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

So off to Parr this time ,yes cylinder 6 so they replaced the coil pack as there was some signs of perishing on two coils.

Missfire missery

Replace most of those)

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Reported fixes
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Unsuccessful attempts
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Discussions
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Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

Replace of them)

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Reported fixes
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Unsuccessful attempts
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Discussions
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Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

Replace some spark plugs

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Unsuccessful attempt · Original poster

Back it went and the replaced some spark plugs but it didn't fix it .Played around with a bunch of terminal -no that didn't work and yes it was Cylinder 6. Cleared the computer down played with the chip ecu settings -no joy so fiddled some more and it worked but they don't have a clue why or how.

Missfire missery

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Reset computer .it was showing a multiple missfire

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Suggestion · Original poster

Off to OPC who fiddled around for a couple of hours and said it was fine and reset the computer .It was showing a multiple missfire but other error codes for cylinder 6.

Missfire missery

Run same

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Suggestion · Original poster

Then after another spirited run same again when stopping for the lights .

Missfire missery

Use diagnostics as a guide

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Suggestion

There's no substitute for a mechanic who know his / her stuff inside out and uses the diagnostics as a guide.

Missfire missery
Reported and suspected causes (2)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

coil packs (so replaced most of those)

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suspected cause

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery

tappets (so replaced all of them)

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Identified cause
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Suspected cause
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Reported fixes
Read evidence and context
Discussions that suspect a cause
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suspected cause

They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked.

Missfire missery
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Thanks Rodney and Richard, any ideas are helpful as it is getting boring and costly to keep going back with a fault they can't find and don't know how they fixed it!!

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

[&o]Hello all, here is a puzzle. My 3.6 C2 has had a recuring problem. A missfire on the same cylinder after a good roasting . This first occured about 8 months ago after a good hard run( clear of the clogged south east traffic!)The car was fine until I stopped at the traffic lights and it went all lumpy and the engine light flashed. Off to OPC who fiddled around for a couple of hours and said it was fine and reset the computer .It was showing a multiple missfire but other error codes for cylinder 6. So 2000 miles went by and no problem. Then after another spirited run same again when stopping for the lights . So off to Parr this time ,yes cylinder 6 so they replaced the coil pack as there was some signs of perishing on two coils. Another 2000 ish and the same again. Back it went and the replaced some spark plugs but it didn't fix it .Played around with a bunch of terminal -no that didn't work and yes it was Cylinder 6. Cleared the computer down played with the chip ecu settings -no joy so fiddled some more and it worked but they don't have a clue why or how. Another 1000 miles and after a short burst ,same again and I think it may just be CYLINDER BL***** 6. Help please They are all bemused and I don' like the sound of a flat 5

POST 2Original post

A faulty coil pack or spark plug would be the obvious choice, but you have eliminated those possibilities. The only thing I can suggest is checking the wiring between the coil pack and the ECU, and the earth wire to the coil pack. If there aren't any problems with the wiring, then maybe there is a fault with the ECU itself.

POST 3Original post

A faulty injector may be the cause. My CEL light came on a while back and the engine became slightly lumpy. My OPC diagnosed this as a faulty injector, replaced it, and the problem has now gone.

POST 4Original post

You could be right Rodney, but I think an injector failure would show up as a different fault code on a diagnostic test.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks Rodney and Richard, any ideas are helpful as it is getting boring and costly to keep going back with a fault they can't find and don't know how they fixed it!! [8|] Has any one else come across this problem? A mechanic friend has suggested the idea of a piece of muck getting into the tappet bucket but I can't quite see how that may be . Any more thoughts ?

POST 6Original post

Had a similar problem with mine, and did the usual (coil pack, spark plugs). Light came on whilst I was in an OPC having a battery swap out. Very nice guy there diagnosed it as an O2 sensor, and plan to do this when it's next booked in.

POST 7Original post

Tony - I don't suppose you have the error codes? If you have them it would help a lot.

POST 8Original post

You're probably right Richard, but as you know in my case it wasn't that simple. They first thought it was the tappets (so replaced all of them) then they thought it was the coil packs (so replaced most of those), then they were certain it was a faulty injector, which was the final remedy which worked. I sometimes wonder about the effectiveness of these diagnostic systems. In 3 times that they have been called on to source problems in my cars, they have always failed to do so correctly, and it usually ends up being a costly process of trial and error.[:-]

POST 9Original post

There's no substitute for a mechanic who know his / her stuff inside out and uses the diagnostics as a guide.

POST 10Original post

Agree totally, so if you don't have an OPC warrantee (which I assume you don't) then why not take it to a specialist who knows their stuff about engines, such as Baz Hartech ?

POST 11Original post

Parr are one of the most respected independents in the country, and they really should know their stuff. I'm a bit surprised they are scratching their heads.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Many thanks again for all these thoughts guys .Parr went into the system and did a full diagnostic. I haven't got the error codes but they said there was one for a multiple missfire but it always comes back to No 6 cyl.The injector is a good point but the Co2 ( if that what you mean't Derek) sensor is another good idea, does it have one for each cylinder? It does give us something to aim at !!

POST 13Original post

I don't think it would be an O2 sensor, as it would affect the whole bank.

POST 14Original post

Just to be clear: I wasn't commenting on Parr specifically as I have no experience of my own with them. The comment was more related to diagnostic systems.

POST 15Original post

Sorry Sanjib I didn't word my post very well. I wasn't criticising your comment and I agree with you that it all depends on how the diagnostic results are interpreted, which needs someone with a lot of experience. I think Diesel had missed the fact that Tony had taken it to an indy.

POST 16Original post

Yep, missed that. Where are Parr out of interest ?

POST 17Original post

Crawley, W Sussex - http://www.parr-uk.co.uk/

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