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997 puff of smoke on start up

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YOUR RESEARCH997 puff of smoke on start up

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Check oil it was

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When I checked the oil it was after sitting over night.

997 puff of smoke on start up
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Check before it has all had a chance

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If you check before it has all had a chance to drain down, you will show low.

997 puff of smoke on start up
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Fill drop it a bar or two

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You are over filled, drop it a bar or two.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Inspect ims and found it

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They inspected the IMS and found it to be the dual row ceramic, in excellent condition.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Replace rms

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At that time I also replaced the RMS.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Check before it has all had a chance

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If you check before it has all had a chance to drain down, you will show low.

997 puff of smoke on start up
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Check before it has all had a chance

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If you check before it has all had a chance to drain down, you will show low.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Check crankcase vacuum as your aos may be going out

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Also check the crankcase vacuum as your AOS may be going out.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Check into the aos

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If smokes tonight, I'll check into the AOS.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Check oil

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How are you checking your oil?

997 puff of smoke on start up

Check oil it was

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When I checked the oil it was after sitting over night.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Fill drop it a bar or two

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You are over filled, drop it a bar or two.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Inspect ims and found it

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They inspected the IMS and found it to be the dual row ceramic, in excellent condition.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Replace from the inside

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If it has a ceramic bearing, the engine was rebuilt as it can only be replaced from the inside.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Replace ims

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They are very reputable and advised I didn’t need to spend the money to replace the IMS.

997 puff of smoke on start up

Replace rms

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At that time I also replaced the RMS.

997 puff of smoke on start up
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My 997 over the last two days upon start up puts out a puff of smoke. It has never done this before. The only thing I have done recently was had the clutch replaced. At that time I also replaced the RMS. They inspected the IMS and found it to be the dual row ceramic, in excellent condition. I typically keep the oil right at the full mark. It is currently on the last bar, could this do it? The car is currently at 35,000 miles. Thanks!!

POST 2Original post

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You are over filled, drop it a bar or two. Also check the crankcase vacuum as your AOS may be going out.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I was actually only at one bar on the oil reading, so I was on the low side. What is the AOS? Thanks

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AOS = Air oil separator. How are you checking your oil? It has to be on level ground and been at 'rest' for at least 30 minutes. One click of the key and let it meter the oil. If you check before it has all had a chance to drain down, you will show low. Then you'll add oil and, you're overfilled. You should show an "arrow to arrow' reading as normal oil level. If the top bar if also lighted up, you're overfilled. The question is "how much over?" You won't know unless you drain some back down, let the car sit and measure again.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks guys. When I checked the oil it was after sitting over night. The oil was at the lowest bar. The last two days it blew out a plum of smoke on start up. I'm going to have wife start the car tonight while I watch from behind all tail pipes. If smokes tonight, I'll check into the AOS.

POST 6Original post

Follow up question to your original post. You don't mention what year 997 car you have but based on the IMS statement, it must be an early 2005, otherwise the IMS bearing isn't replaceable from the outside. (engine would have to be disassembled to do that). Just curious to know if it is an '05 with an M96 casting or an M97 casting. It is one way to evaluate the honesty of the mechanic that serviced the car and whether they opened the trap door to look at the bearing.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It is a late 2006. When doing clutch they told me I had the better ceramic IMS bearing. They are very reputable and advised I didn’t need to spend the money to replace the IMS.

POST 8Original post

The ‘06 to ‘08 cars had the large, non-serviceable IMS bearing. It is not ceramic. It is a sealed bearing and the balls are not visible unless the seal has been removed. If it has a ceramic bearing, the engine was rebuilt as it can only be replaced from the inside. This may be a reputable shop but the info does not sound correct.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

They showed me a sample of the bearing that fails, and they showed me a sample of what mine looks like. Mine was considerably larger. They may have mentioned some replacements are ceramic, and not that I have one. Was dealing with my sick mother at the time, so more than likely it was my wires crossed. Didn’t smoke on start up today.

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