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Check bearing size *before* grabbing the puller

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On the other hand, maybe it will convince others to take two seconds to check the bearing size *before* grabbing the puller.

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I'd say this is a lesson in where to take your car for service as any Porsche Indie would recognize the large bolt, or, even better, would have checked the engine number from the start.

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Use sleeve

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( or the LN PRO versions) and can be reinstalled using a sleeve to keep the retaining ring collapsed until installed/seated.

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Check bearing size *before* grabbing the puller

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On the other hand, maybe it will convince others to take two seconds to check the bearing size *before* grabbing the puller.

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I'd say this is a lesson in where to take your car for service as any Porsche Indie would recognize the large bolt, or, even better, would have checked the engine number from the start.

Mid Year IMS Change?

Use sleeve

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( or the LN PRO versions) and can be reinstalled using a sleeve to keep the retaining ring collapsed until installed/seated.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

You Tube " This week Jonny learns something new. A 2003 Porsche 911 is in the shop for an upgraded IMS bearing. Jonny is baffled when he figures out that the old IMS bearing is larger than normal and won't extract from the block. A quick call to our buddy Dana, a Porsche expert, yields no immediate answer. Dana makes a call to another Porsche expert and the mystery is solved. Porsche made a mid year design change in 2003...effectively making the IMS bearing non-removable without doing a complete engine tear down." So to me it seems like this car had an engine replacement with the non removable bearing?

POST 4Original post

Wow! That's not good. I'm no expert but I did read a couple of posts here on RL once and I'm not sure I'd be happy reusing an extracted bearing like that. A lot of axial force is needed to break the retaining ring. Also, how would you re-insert with a new retaining ring. The old one is likely still in the IMS groove, or parts of it. I'd say this is a lesson in where to take your car for service as any Porsche Indie would recognize the large bolt, or, even better, would have checked the engine number from the start. Would be good to hear a RL expert's opinion.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 18038352

This one did not have the integrated retaining ring, it has the regular snap ring. The integrated retaining ring is on the dual row IMSB . ( or the LN PRO versions) and can be reinstalled using a sleeve to keep the retaining ring collapsed until installed/seated. They are also incorrect about when the "big bearing" was introduced, it was late 2005, not mid 2003. This car had an engine with a 2006 up built replacement. I agree it should not have been stressed like that, that bearing is now compromised....

POST 6Original post

More internet misinformation via YouTube� Be careful what you watch, and more so what you believe! There�s lots of bs & snakeoil out there. Do your diligence�

POST 7Original post

So how do you think the bearing liked all that force from the puller and all the force needed to install it in the bore? So glad that's not my car.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 18038551

That bearing is screwed, and so is the reputation of �Johnny�/German Autowerks when the IMSB that they damaged and left in the car fails�(in fact it�s already failed) because �I never saw one like that before�� I almost feel bad for him�

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 18038612

Me too. However, it think it's extremely unfortunate that even after screwing the pooch he did only cursory "research" on the issue and concluded that 2003 had a mid-year production change to the larger bearing. This adds to the tsunami of incorrect info out there on the bearing. On the other hand, maybe it will convince others to take two seconds to check the bearing size *before* grabbing the puller.

POST 10Original post

I just made Jake Raby aware of this video. Truly unfortunate. Jonny just compromised the original 6305 bearing when he tried to extract it. That bearing is very robust and should have been left alone. We've tried our best to educate people about IMS bearings with our videos on Rennvision and PCA, but these cases still happen if people (even skilled mechanics) don't do their homework. You Tube

POST 11Original post

Ouch. He is a BMW mechanic though give him a break. Tough life.

POST 12Original post

Yikes This is the reason why I went to a �Certified� IMS Solution installer.

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 18038854

I trust no one. This is the reason I DIY. ;-)

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 18038916

I don�t have 45 years of experience working on Porsches like my mechanic. So I tend to trust them

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 18038933

Different strokes for different folks. As long as we all can sleep at night.

POST 16Original post

I am very disappointed, I thought all of the content produced on YuTube was well researched and accurate. Damn...

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 18039958

Right. The internet is akin to an information cocktail party with millions of strangers. Same level of reliability to what we hear at a cocktail party with strangers.

POST 18Original post

Most of these so called self prescribed experts on YouTube are just regurgitating information they gather when combing the internet or other YouTube videos, not directly experienced. Sometimes it's good well established advice and many times it's bad advice. How would a novice know the difference? What gets me is when these young YouTubers parrot the work and findings of Jake Raby, but almost never give him credit. They attempt to own the information as their own.

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 18040115

True, but those who "know(to be aware of through observation, inquiry, or information.) " know.

POST 20Original post

Mechanic is an idiot! Ready, shoot, aim! Poor customer is getting a ticking time bomb back.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 18038312

Any M96 blocks made by Porsche since 2006 will have the 997.1 style IMS bearing. It is not removable, but has the higher load rating in return. This car definitely has a replacement engine. No 996 left the factory with this bearing.

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 18041267

...and when said time bomb goes off it is going to cost $15k+ minimum for a proper repair.

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