Sport pilot 4s for turbo s - Page 1 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

The sport pilot 4s are not Porsche spec for the turbo s. They are popular for handling and improved road noise. The rears are panemera tyres. Are the fronts generic or do other use another manufactures spec please ? For those that have the base / s / gts there are sport pilots approved for them but the turbos s has bigger tyres sadly.

Do you have a question about MPS4S ?

Yes! As above what version of the tyre is used on the fronts for a turbo s

I never even knew there were different Porsche tyre ratings for different models, just looked it up and it seems there is these days but I couldn’t find anything that specified the turbo vs. any other 911 (only GT models use the ‘old’ system according to what I read). That said I’ve never seen anything other than N0 or N2 for sale at the tyre place I use, and to be honest I never bothered with them anyway on my C2S, though I understand there’s always a bit of a debate as to whether you should.

I’m a big fan of the M4S , but to be honest I’m the I can’t really tell the difference with the P0’’s providing they are reasonably fresh.

This raises an interesting question for me. When people post about being able to tell the difference between tyre manufacturers for road driving I begin to wonder whether they are wannabe Chris Harris's. I cannot believe you can tell the difference between P Zeros and MPS4/5 in normal on road driving. I believe you can when you are on the track but what percentage of drivers track their cars? Just a thought and not trying to provoke anyone.

FrancisA said: This raises an interesting question for me. When people post about being able to tell the difference between tyre manufacturers for road driving I begin to wonder whether they are wannabe Chris Harris's. I cannot believe you can tell the difference between P Zeros and MPS4/5 in normal on road driving. I believe you can when you are on the track but what percentage of drivers track their cars? Just a thought and not trying to provoke anyone. It's easy to tell the difference.. I've just fitted some Contisport 7's to my E46 and the grip difference noticeable vs. the previous Goodyear Asymmetric 6's. Also OP - I'd definitely recommend ContiSport 7's if they do them in your sizes. The whole Porsche tyre rating thing is a bit nonsense these days imo. Especially where you can only get an old tyre design in that "spec", you are better off with a non "rated" modern performance tyre.

FrancisA said: This raises an interesting question for me. When people post about being able to tell the difference between tyre manufacturers for road driving I begin to wonder whether they are wannabe Chris Harris's. I cannot believe you can tell the difference between P Zeros and MPS4/5 in normal on road driving. I believe you can when you are on the track but what percentage of drivers track their cars? Just a thought and not trying to provoke anyone. Consider that a popular hack for improving the handling and traction of most Mclaren road cars is to ditch the MC P Zeros and fit MPS4S, makes a big difference but if you drive like Miss Daisey then YMMV Edit, agree withthe above Conti CS 7s are the latest and greatest but unfortunately not available in all Porsche sizes.

TB993tt said: Edit, agree with the above Conti CS 7s are the latest and greatest but unfortunately not available in all Porsche sizes. That's sad and unfortunate. I can't get them for my 996 as they don't do 17's at all.

My sole issue is road noise and the sport pilot are reported as being noticeably quieter. If they handle better then happy days but I doubt I could tell the difference in road driving.

JagYouAre said: I never even knew there were different Porsche tyre ratings for different models, just looked it up and it seems there is these days but I couldn’t find anything that specified the turbo vs. any other 911 (only GT models use the ‘old’ system according to what I read). That said I’ve never seen anything other than N0 or N2 for sale at the tyre place I use, and to be honest I never bothered with them anyway on my C2S, though I understand there’s always a bit of a debate as to whether you should. The 911 are NA0 NA1 The panemera are ND0/1 The only official tyres for the turbo s are the p zero which I have and need changing other good year. I was at the Porsche experience centre with the Goodyear's and I had no complaints. The are cheaper then the p zero so if I can't determine what to do re the sport pilots I will get those. But if other have a set of sport pilots that work ok then all i need is version they used.

Jeremy-75qq8 said: My sole issue is road noise and the sport pilot are reported as being noticeably quieter. If they handle better then happy days but I doubt I could tell the difference in road driving. They are a quiet tyre. The CS7 is also.

My sole issue is road noise and the sport pilot are reported as being noticeably quieter. If they handle better then happy days but I doubt I could tell the difference in road driving.

I've been running Continental Sport Contact 7s for the last month or so (slightly worn, they came on a set of wheels I bought) and I would say they are very comparable with the MPS4S I had previously for both handling and road noise - the Michelins have always been the clear tyre of choice when tyre questions come up on here. The Continentals also have a massive lip on them so offer good protection of the rims vs. the Michelins. My only previous experience of Continentals was a set of Sport Contact 5s on an S3 and they were both crap and noisy (though they were quite old and a little worn when I bought that car). I swapped them for Goodyear Eagle F1s and remember thinking how quiet they were in comparison. The Continentals seem to have come a long way since then and seem well regarded. Have you got a warranty on your Turbo that requires the use of N rated tyres? I seem to recall reading that Porsche scrapped that requirement at some point though. N ratings seem like a good way to add £££ to the price, not sure how much they add in the real world.

FrancisA said: This raises an interesting question for me. When people post about being able to tell the difference between tyre manufacturers for road driving I begin to wonder whether they are wannabe Chris Harris's. I cannot believe you can tell the difference between P Zeros and MPS4/5 in normal on road driving. I believe you can when you are on the track but what percentage of drivers track their cars? Just a thought and not trying to provoke anyone. Indeed. Also most people are comparing when then replace tyres with some older well used vs brand new which doesn’t help for fair comparison . I’ve got M4S on another car and I don’t think they are any quieter TBH

bosshog said: FrancisA said: This raises an interesting question for me. When people post about being able to tell the difference between tyre manufacturers for road driving I begin to wonder whether they are wannabe Chris Harris's. I cannot believe you can tell the difference between P Zeros and MPS4/5 in normal on road driving. I believe you can when you are on the track but what percentage of drivers track their cars? Just a thought and not trying to provoke anyone. Indeed. Also most people are comparing when then replace tyres with some older well used vs brand new which doesn’t help for fair comparison . I’ve got M4S on another car and I don’t think they are any quieter TBH You don't have to drive to excess/over the speed limit to tell the difference.. Chuck it through the bends on a decent twisty 60mph road and you can tell.

JagYouAre said: I've been running Continental Sport Contact 7s for the last month or so (slightly worn, they came on a set of wheels I bought) and I would say they are very comparable with the MPS4S I had previously for both handling and road noise - the Michelins have always been the clear tyre of choice when tyre questions come up on here. The Continentals also have a massive lip on them so offer good protection of the rims vs. the Michelins. My only previous experience of Continentals was a set of Sport Contact 5s on an S3 and they were both crap and noisy (though they were quite old and a little worn when I bought that car). I swapped them for Goodyear Eagle F1s and remember thinking how quiet they were in comparison. The Continentals seem to have come a long way since then and seem well regarded. Have you got a warranty on your Turbo that requires the use of N rated tyres? I seem to recall reading that Porsche scrapped that requirement at some point though. N ratings seem like a good way to add £££ to the price, not sure how much they add in the real world. I do have another 3 years warranty. I suppose I did not consider tyres to be " parts" and also not something that would be involved in the warrenty as they are consumables - ie I am not going to claim for a flat tyre - and consumables are excluded from the warrenty anyway. If anyone does know of Porsche getting upset witj non std tyres I am all ears. I half suspect I will go for the Goodyear f1 s which at under £1000 a set are not dear There was a you tube video on Porsche tyres that basically did the compound across the width of the tyre varies on the n figments. It seems all tyres to to some extent. It is not one bit of rubber but softer and harder to allow for differing grip in differing climates etc

Jhonno said: You don't have to drive to excess/over the speed limit to tell the difference.. Chuck it through the bends on a decent twisty 60mph road and you can tell. I’ve never had the chance to take a car down a road back to back with new tyres of each to compare. There’s always at least 12 months between. Your memory better than mine ;-)

I had SC7 on 18” hollow spoke wheels on my old 993, always used Michelin in the past, but reviews seemed positive so gave them a try, was really impressed and would use them again, unfortunately they’ve no plans to manufacture in 295/30/18 for the 996 tt , so it’s back to Michelin (the 993/996 wheels and Conti tyres are available if anybody wants to give them a try).