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I’ve owned a number of Porsches over the years and currently have a 991.2 GT3 (23,000 miles) and a 718 Spyder RS (still being run in). They are each weekend cars (no commuting, daily driving, motorways or track), as I live in the north of Scotland and have plenty of nice and empty roads to use. The GT3 currently serves as my winter weekend car (it’s on winter tyres and is fine even on a few inches of snow). I am pondering a GR Yaris to add to the garage and to offer a different car for the winter, but I’m afraid coming from the GT3 (and cars with engines behind me), I maybe won’t be as enthusiastic as everyone else is about it and end up always picking up the GT3 key. On the other hand, Harry M seems to like his GRY and he’s usually on the money. Curious therefore if anyone has/did have a GR Yaris in their garage alongside a sporty Porsche and has any thoughts to share ? A 30 minute test drive around some town isn’t going to educate me, so looking for other Porsche and GRY owners who can. I’ve looked on the GRY forums here and elsewhere, but not had any luck finding others who have done this. Cheers.

I realise it doesn’t answer your question, but: Having had a selection of Porsche GT and standard products over the years, I would like to suggest you look at the FL5 Civic Type R. I’m currently running one as my daily, and have to admit that the reviews are pretty much bang on. It really is the FWD “GT3” of the hot hatch world. Having driven a GRY, though they are incredibly good fun, the Type R just has that something extra about it. That bit more fizz and excitement. And that is having driven them both on roads I’m sure you’re familiar with in the north west Highlands. Jack

Hergiswilreid said: I’ve owned a number of Porsches over the years and currently have a 991.2 GT3 (23,000 miles) and a 718 Spyder RS (still being run in). They are each weekend cars (no commuting, daily driving, motorways or track), as I live in the north of Scotland and have plenty of nice and empty roads to use. The GT3 currently serves as my winter weekend car (it’s on winter tyres and is fine even on a few inches of snow). I am pondering a GR Yaris to add to the garage and to offer a different car for the winter, but I’m afraid coming from the GT3 (and cars with engines behind me), I maybe won’t be as enthusiastic as everyone else is about it and end up always picking up the GT3 key. On the other hand, Harry M seems to like his GRY and he’s usually on the money. Curious therefore if anyone has/did have a GR Yaris in their garage alongside a sporty Porsche and has any thoughts to share ? A 30 minute test drive around some town isn’t going to educate me, so looking for other Porsche and GRY owners who can. I’ve looked on the GRY forums here and elsewhere, but not had any luck finding others who have done this. Cheers. Don’t listen to Jack Yes, I have a GR Yaris. Fantastic bit of kit. Mine is lightly modified with camber upgrades, roll bars etc. Fanstatic tech for the money with switchable driive ratios. Light weight, keeps up with pork on the twisties and fun daily! Open the exhaust up with light mods and you have a rally car for the road.

Have toyed with one as a winter car but for longer drives shirt gearing would annoy me plus hassle of short service intervals. If my winter driving was shorter cross country blasts I’d have one in a heartbeat

Have a Yaris alongside my P cars from new. Different car of course but a great car in its own right, brilliant fun and very usable and I’ve had some fantastic road trips, took it down to Morocco last year and heading off ice driving in Austria tomorrow. I’ve swapped the dampers, seats and had an engine map courtesy of litchfield, upgraded the audio and sound insulation to make it more usable on long trips.

Thanks all - sounds like I need to get my hands on one. For the type of roads I drive on, I thought it would be good, but was afraid 200BHP less and front engined wouldn’t compare and it wouldn’t be used. I prefer the idea/looks of the GRY versus the CTR, even through I know from ECOTYs and the like, that it’s a smashing drive too.

I'm running a GR Yaris alongside a Cayman GTS 4.0. Had the Yaris since June 2021 and the Cayman since November 2020. Really like them both. The Yaris is a real terrier of a car - great fun when you're going quickly but I think it's quite nice to drive at normal speeds too. Both cars are completely standard and get used in rotation alongside an E90 M3. If I had to keep only one car, it really would be quite a tough choice between the Cayman and the Yaris when you consider the extra practicality and all-weather capability of the Yaris. But the Cayman would shade it. The M3, lovely though it is, would be the first to go!

Stunters said: I'm running a GR Yaris alongside a Cayman GTS 4.0. Had the Yaris since June 2021 and the Cayman since November 2020. Really like them both. The Yaris is a real terrier of a car - great fun when you're going quickly but I think it's quite nice to drive at normal speeds too. Both cars are completely standard and get used in rotation alongside an E90 M3. If I had to keep only one car, it really would be quite a tough choice between the Cayman and the Yaris when you consider the extra practicality and all-weather capability of the Yaris. But the Cayman would shade it. The M3, lovely though it is, would be the first to go! That sir is a fine fleet of useable cars. :

We have similar choices in cars. I had a GR Yaris from new in 21 alongside a 997.2 GT3 and 987.2 Boxster Spyder. I did like my GRY and had it for 2 years and about 20,000 miles but found the ride, noise and frequent servicing took the shine off it, only because the balance of fun driving compared to mundane everyday duties with few opportunities to enjoy it's abilities was the wrong way around for me It was a fab car to drive fast and very predictable in the wet. I think where you are the balance of fun to mundane is far greater in your favour so I would say go for it. Perfect on these types of roads.

Hergiswilreid said: Thanks all - sounds like I need to get my hands on one. For the type of roads I drive on, I thought it would be good, but was afraid 200BHP less and front engined wouldn’t compare and it wouldn’t be used. I prefer the idea/looks of the GRY versus the CTR, even through I know from ECOTYs and the like, that it’s a smashing drive too. Completely understand. But I’d at least try and get a shot in one before you completely rule it out. The new ones do look fantastic in the flesh too. Seating position is perfect. Gear change. Drivetrain. And much more practical if needed. Plus it doesn’t need any mods…

Short service intervals? Yearly service. Here’s mine on a tour to the ring etc

993rsr said: Have a Yaris alongside my P cars from new. Different car of course but a great car in its own right, brilliant fun and very usable and I’ve had some fantastic road trips, took it down to Morocco last year and heading off ice driving in Austria tomorrow. I’ve swapped the dampers, seats and had an engine map courtesy of litchfield, upgraded the audio and sound insulation to make it more usable on long trips. What dampers you go for?

I have owned a GRY from new in Feb 2021 (20k miles) and it’s shared a garage with a GT3 and 964 RS amongst others and never comes up short. Totally standard car (besides some geo tweaks) and still gives me enough enjoyment to maintain its place in the fleet. Even managed to survive an RMA day at Spa.

Left field alternative… Alpine A290

Not a GRY, but we have a Clubsport S Golf for the same sort of cheaper thrills.

Probably get shot down here but have you considered a new model S3 . I was in a similar dilemma what to buy and settled on an S3 .It sits on my drive between a 911 and a Polo gti. It’s the ideal daily , the 911 a fast fair weather car , Polo great for city work and Audi for all else. It’s fast enough ,seats 4 , 4wd with good tech , combining full leather interior comfort and quietness for most journeys . It gets poor reviews from some but after a couple of thousand miles driving I’m baffled why as it’s a great all rounder. Anyway good luck with the choice you make.

Oh I'm jealous of that garage above. My garage is on a block, very damp and dark with no power. But I'm still glad that I have a garage for storage and parking my Triumph Bonnie. My Alpine has to sit outside. Sorry off topic but I swoon every time I see a garage that you can actually hang pictures in and keep cars on trickle charge. I'd buy a double garage with just a loft above for me if I could find one

When I sold my last Macan I still needed something practical (dog wagon) and looked at the Yaris among others but it was a bit too small. In the end I managed to get one of the last new MINI Clubman JCW's. 300+BHP, 4 wheel drive and 5 (6?) doors, it's probably not as sharp as the Yaris but is still bonkers to drive and a lot of fun.

Voodoo Blue said: When I sold my last Macan I still needed something practical (dog wagon) and looked at the Yaris among others but it was a bit too small. In the end I managed to get one of the last new MINI Clubman JCW's. 300+BHP, 4 wheel drive and 5 (6?) doors, it's probably not as sharp as the Yaris but is still bonkers to drive and a lot of fun. Yup, my Missus has one too, utter hooligan of a car that really flies under the radar. My daily is a black 2016 Transit Connect LWB (awesome van) but it's not needed nearly as much anymore, so am seriously considering that new CTR to join the GT3s...

I’ve run a GRY alongside my 981 Spyder for the last 3 years - perfect combination for my use and it will stay when the incoming SRS arrives. I put cross climate tyres on in the winter months and it will handle any conditions securely. The GRY replaced a Mini JCW - for me it seems a much more competent car but the Mini had charm too.

Brighton Speed said: Voodoo Blue said: When I sold my last Macan I still needed something practical (dog wagon) and looked at the Yaris among others but it was a bit too small. In the end I managed to get one of the last new MINI Clubman JCW's. 300+BHP, 4 wheel drive and 5 (6?) doors, it's probably not as sharp as the Yaris but is still bonkers to drive and a lot of fun. Yup, my Missus has one too, utter hooligan of a car that really flies under the radar. My daily is a black 2016 Transit Connect LWB (awesome van) but it's not needed nearly as much anymore, so am seriously considering that new CTR to join the GT3s... Do it! It’s a great companion to a GT3/4

The bespoke Type R flared arches, bumpers, rear door are well done. FK8 was a mess in comparison with its tacked on plastic bits.

Tbf the Yaris doesn’t really have competition as it is a rally car. Other alternatives are 4wd or fwd sports cars.

If you value Matt Watson’s opinion he rates his GRY as his third best car, his Porsches are number 2 and 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD2fP7E-r8Y

Alpine A110.

Maxym said: Alpine A110. Reliability?

Guess there are quite a few options for practical daily duties, and a bit of fun, alongside a sporting Porsche. And, no doubt Porsche would hope we got a Macan/Cayman/Panamera/Taycan. But, some of the ‘hot hatches’ can offer everything one needs for a lot less money. Granted, the Honda gets great road test reviews, but it really is a messy looking car. That must have hurt its sales success. Over the years, several of the popular journals have asked the question about the perfect 2-car garage, and the 911 and Golf GTi are often cited as a popular choices.

Koln-RS said: Guess there are quite a few options for practical daily duties, and a bit of fun, alongside a sporting Porsche. And, no doubt Porsche would hope we got a Macan/Cayman/Panamera/Taycan. But, some of the ‘hot hatches’ can offer everything one needs for a lot less money. Granted, the Honda gets great road test reviews, but it really is a messy looking car. That must have hurt its sales success. Over the years, several of the popular journals have asked the question about the perfect 2-car garage, and the 911 and Golf GTi are often cited as a popular choices. Golf boring

MannyLon said: Koln-RS said: Guess there are quite a few options for practical daily duties, and a bit of fun, alongside a sporting Porsche. And, no doubt Porsche would hope we got a Macan/Cayman/Panamera/Taycan. But, some of the ‘hot hatches’ can offer everything one needs for a lot less money. Granted, the Honda gets great road test reviews, but it really is a messy looking car. That must have hurt its sales success. Over the years, several of the popular journals have asked the question about the perfect 2-car garage, and the 911 and Golf GTi are often cited as a popular choices. Golf boring It's not as exciting, I'd agree. But the GR is quite a raw car NVH wise compared to a Golf, and the interior whilst totally rattle free in mine, is not up to the quality of the German brand. However, if your main objective is being fun to drive, IMO the GR knocks the rest into a cocked hat. Hooligan of a car! I've got the Nitron dampers BTW. Edited by 993rsr on Sunday 26th January 15:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E6xasuPiYY

MannyLon said: Golf boring Clubsport S isn't Problem is no one drives them. Most are SORN or flat spotting in heated garages.

I'm running a GR Yaris alongside a GT3 Touring. The Yaris is my runaround and it delivers, owned since new 2021, best way to describe it is exciting. The way it drives by far makes up for its slightly awkward looks and interior. Hard to describe just how good it is.

had one and a 991c4s, now gt4. gr was good fun, but it doesn't have the flat ride of a German sports car - the rally lean is an acquired thing. I've thought about going back to one, but I'd def fit the nitrons if I did

Stunters said: I'm running a GR Yaris alongside a Cayman GTS 4.0. Had the Yaris since June 2021 and the Cayman since November 2020. Really like them both. The Yaris is a real terrier of a car - great fun when you're going quickly but I think it's quite nice to drive at normal speeds too. Both cars are completely standard and get used in rotation alongside an E90 M3. If I had to keep only one car, it really would be quite a tough choice between the Cayman and the Yaris when you consider the extra practicality and all-weather capability of the Yaris. But the Cayman would shade it. The M3, lovely though it is, would be the first to go! One for the Bad Parking thread?

marrow said: One for the Bad Parking thread? It was just a quick picture taken as I was moving the cars around (getting one of them out of the garage requires all three of them to move). They were parked up for less than five minutes and there's plenty of parking in that place on the housing estate.

I have had a Yaris from new for coming up 3 years. I bought it as I missed out on the impreza and evos when younger. Can’t see me ever selling it. I love about everything about it. If you need more space the civic would be way more practical though as they are pretty large. I have had an issue where a spark plug failed at under 4k miles causing me to require recovering. Toyota refused the warranty on it as they said it’s a wear and tear item which I was pretty disappointed about. Especially as the service interval is 60k miles. I use mine alongside a 997.2 GT3 when the weather isn’t great.

I've had my GR CP since Sept 21, in that time I've run it alongside a GT3 Touring and a GT3RS, they are both now gone but the Yaris remains as a runaround alongside a Cayenne GT Turbo. I honestly can't see me selling the Yaris anytime soon, such a great little car and a blast to drive, it has it's rough edges but................

As seen by comments above, those who’ve owned the Yaris, love them Modern day Impreza to me..

I run a GR Yaris, and GT4RS.. Just sold my 997.2 GT3. The GR Yaris rates in the top three cars I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had over 10 Porsches. The only modification I’ve done to my Yaris, is seat lowering and adding camber to the car, plus toe in at the rear.. Lots of people have modified the suspension with coil overs, but I left mine on stock suspension as I like the ride height (More Rally like) It also makes for a fun drive as you get the most from it with trail braking to balance the pitching from the stock suspension into bends. It’s also a wonderful car to heel and toe. The Pilot 4s tyres are great on them in this crappy weather and for fast road in the summer. The only additional modification I am going to look at is replacing the brake hoses, disks, and some additional cooling to the front brakes.. They did start to fade a bit on some aggressive Alpine driving last October. It easily kept pace with the GT4’s and 4RS on the alps tour, only lost out a bit on the uphills sections out of the hairpins if it fell off the turbo. Edited by cdixon on Tuesday 28th January 13:58

cdixon said: I run a GR Yaris, and GT4RS.. Just sold my 997.2 GT3. The GR Yaris rates in the top three cars I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had over 10 Porsches. The only modification I’ve done to my Yaris, is seat lowering and adding camber to the car, plus toe in at the rear.. Lots of people have modified the suspension with coil overs, but I left mine on stock suspension as I like the ride height (More Rally like) It also makes for a fun drive as you get the most from it with trail braking to balance the pitching from the stock suspension into bends. It’s also a wonderful car to heel and toe. The Pilot 4s tyres are great on them in this crappy weather and for fast road in the summer. The only additional modification I am going to look at is replacing the brake hoses, disks, and some additional cooling to the front brakes.. They did start to fade a bit on some aggressive Alpine driving last October. It easily kept pace with the GT4’s and 4RS on the alps tour, only lost out a bit on the uphills sections out of the hairpins if it fell off the turbo. Edited by cdixon on Tuesday 28th January 13:58 A pretty glowing review.

Slippydiff said: I think you mean the road car has been homologated which enables it to be used as the basis for the R2 rally cars. Sure, was a general comment

MannyLon said: Slippydiff said: I think you mean the road car has been homologated which enables it to be used as the basis for the R2 rally cars. Sure, was a general comment Good reply though, I love nerding out on this stuff...

OP, I have a GRY alongside a 996 C4S, a 'Classic' Impreza and an i3 that I daily. The GR is a bonkers car; I love it. I did use it as a daily but knew I'd end up running out of talent (I'm no driving God) or find myself collecting Points hence I got the i3. I bought the GR less than a year after getting the C4S. I'd always wanted a Porsche but had never been in a position to get one. It (the C4S) will go before the Yaris. I've had the Classic since 2001; in my mind the GR is the spiritual successor to the Impreza. Get an GRY; you won't regret it.

Thanks everyone. The search has started for a GRY. You only live once.

MannyLon said: Tbf the Yaris doesn’t really have competition as it is a rally car. Other alternatives are 4wd or fwd sports cars. I think you mean the road car has been homologated which enables it to be used as the basis for the R2 rally cars. Road car : Rally2 car : Rally 1 car : Rally 1 car : Rally2 car : The current R1 rally cars use a spaceframe chassis which can be seen in the image below, it's clad with carbon/kevlar panels, unlike the R2 cars which do actually use an original Yaris bodyshell which serves as the basis for the heavily modified R2 rally car shells : The spaceframe chassis which doubles up as the rollcage can clearly be seen here : HTH Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 29th January 11:42

MannyLon said: Sure, was a generally inaccurate comment Roadgoing Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fiKHdJLIJE&pp=y... Rally Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGMWONJbEY&pp=y...

Those rally drivers are off the scale insane IMO. I really don't mind going fast on bikes or cars but that's another level ! I think I'd be off the M&S for some new pants after a passenger ride in one of those.

Slippydiff said: Roadgoing Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fiKHdJLIJE&pp=y... Rally Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGMWONJbEY&pp=y... Re-editing what I’ve said is childish, but it obviously pleases you.

Slippydiff said: Roadgoing Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fiKHdJLIJE&pp=y... Rally Yaris : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGMWONJbEY&pp=y...

How to drive the Yaris https://youtu.be/u73zdHn1how?si=mU9KeUn5Gf_fqcR1

MannyLon said: How to drive the Yaris https://youtu.be/u73zdHn1how?si=mU9KeUn5Gf_fqcR1 He can drive. Wouldn't want to be coming the other way though....

Glad OP you are now looking for a GRY. Fantastic cars, traded mine in recently for the 911 of my dreams, Circuit pack, standard. IMO they do NOT need to be modded if used as a “fun” runaround. Economical, will potter around when called for, fairly comfy etc etc, and,,,,,,,,, when you want to go for a bit of a hoon on your favourite twisty bumpy slimy B road, Nothing, will keep up with one, astonishing grip for a car on road tyres. Learn how to turn off all the driver aid b ks, put in sport mode and smile If you hold the traction/slip control button down for at least 10 seconds, it turns EVERYTHING off, then ignore all the yellow symbols on the dash

Agreed for road use they don’t need fettling. For occasional track use, camber bolts, anti lift and thicker rear anti roll bar really help, with a decent geo These mods don’t cost much and the car is much improved.

I run a GR and an ND in southern Europe and a 992 Turbo S and 991.2 GT3 in the UK. Sometimes the Turbo spends the summer with her little sisters. The GR is a lighter, slower, softer Turbo. In fact, that pretty much sums up the ND compared to the GT3

For those with Yaris - what is the ride quality like on really bumpy b roads? What can you compare it to? Thanks

bosshog said: For those with Yaris - what is the ride quality like on really bumpy b roads? What can you compare it to? Thanks Standard suspension soaks up bouncy roads. Not sure what to compare it to as it feels unique. For me a better alignment, thicker rear roll bar, camber bolts, anti lift were more important to improve lane driving.

bosshog said: For those with Yaris - what is the ride quality like on really bumpy b roads? What can you compare it to? Thanks I swapped to Nitron's shortly after getting it, secondary ride better than the OEM dampers, much like a Porsche GT car it gets better once you pick up a decent clip, just did a 2000 mile trip to Austria Ice Driving in it, a really superb little car that punches way above it's price point. No harsher than my 991.2 GT3 on the road, and better suspension range of travel. Edited by 993rsr on Friday 7th February 12:21

Slippydiff said: MannyLon said: Tbf the Yaris doesn’t really have competition as it is a rally car. Other alternatives are 4wd or fwd sports cars. I think you mean the road car has been homologated which enables it to be used as the basis for the R2 rally cars. Road car : Rally2 car : Rally 1 car : Rally 1 car : Rally2 car : The current R1 rally cars use a spaceframe chassis which can be seen in the image below, it's clad with carbon/kevlar panels, unlike the R2 cars which do actually use an original Yaris bodyshell which serves as the basis for the heavily modified R2 rally car shells : The spaceframe chassis which doubles up as the rollcage can clearly be seen here : HTH Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 29th January 11:42 I see no difference at all.

Never miss an opportunity to post a car pic ! I think they are a great pair . GR picks up the heavy lifting over winter .

Pat yourself on the back for those beauties

993rsr said: I swapped to Nitron's shortly after getting it, secondary ride better than the OEM dampers, much like a Porsche GT car it gets better once you pick up a decent clip, just did a 2000 mile trip to Austria Ice Driving in it, a really superb little car that punches way above it's price point. No harsher than my 991.2 GT3 on the road, and better suspension range of travel. Edited by 993rsr on Friday 7th February 12:21 Ok very firm then. I was hopefully for a plush setup as it has rally credentials.

bosshog said: Ok very firm then. I was hopefully for a plush setup as it has rally credentials. Firm but never crashy. It was very similar in feel to my 2005 WRX STi but a lot more refined. Edited by moonigan on Friday 7th February 14:06

bosshog said: For those with Yaris - what is the ride quality like on really bumpy b roads? What can you compare it to? Thanks Much calmer down a bumpy B-road compared to my old 981 GT4 and my current 718 GTS 4.0. Inspires a great deal more confidence when going quickly especially in damp or wet conditions. My old 987.1 Cayman S on 18"s with PASM rode very sweetly on B-roads. The Yaris on its standard suspension is similar.

bosshog said: 993rsr said: I swapped to Nitron's shortly after getting it, secondary ride better than the OEM dampers, much like a Porsche GT car it gets better once you pick up a decent clip, just did a 2000 mile trip to Austria Ice Driving in it, a really superb little car that punches way above it's price point. No harsher than my 991.2 GT3 on the road, and better suspension range of travel. Edited by 993rsr on Friday 7th February 12:21 Ok very firm then. I was hopefully for a plush setup as it has rally credentials. Not very firm, the ride is composed enough that you can run pretty much any speed over an undulating country road, but it retains sufficient control to ensure you can sustain a fast pace. It's got very good primary and secondary ride. If you want something cosseting and pillowy a GR is probably not the car, the NVH is quite noticeable but again depends on your expectations and tolererance, I did 10 hrs and 630 miles back to the UK from Stuttgart last week in one hit no problem. Edited by 993rsr on Friday 7th February 18:41

The amount of travel in the suspension makes it an extremely good sports car for uk roads. Std set up on mine was excellent and improved a little on the conti SC 7 at 235 which gave a tiny bit more sidewall. Mines gone now but I used as a daily for for two and a half years and 25k miles.

Had a GR circuit pack, lovely car if you’re on it and really pushing down a well sighted b road. Personally I hated the harsh ride when doing mundane duties and definitely didn’t want to use it on a motorway drive as found it tiring. So it hardly ended up getting used when I went out. Also found with 4wd being so good, it lost a bit of drama. It was more point and shoot, which was fun for a while but then became a bit bland unless you started doing silly speeds. 6 month service intervals were annoying. Give it a go as they are not expensive and I’m a big softy when it comes to suspension set up - my ideal car is something I can drive all the time and which has a Jykell and Hyde character.

NRG1976 said: Had a GR circuit pack, lovely car if you’re on it and really pushing down a well sighted b road. Personally I hated the harsh ride when doing mundane duties and definitely didn’t want to use it on a motorway drive as found it tiring. So it hardly ended up getting used when I went out. Also found with 4wd being so good, it lost a bit of drama. It was more point and shoot, which was fun for a while but then became a bit bland unless you started doing silly speeds. 6 month service intervals were annoying. Harsh ride? Not compared to pork GT cars It needs light tuning to bring some drama. Servicing is every 6k miles.

MannyLon said: NRG1976 said: Had a GR circuit pack, lovely car if you’re on it and really pushing down a well sighted b road. Personally I hated the harsh ride when doing mundane duties and definitely didn’t want to use it on a motorway drive as found it tiring. So it hardly ended up getting used when I went out. Also found with 4wd being so good, it lost a bit of drama. It was more point and shoot, which was fun for a while but then became a bit bland unless you started doing silly speeds. 6 month service intervals were annoying. Harsh ride? Not compared to pork GT cars It needs light tuning to bring some drama. Servicing is every 6k miles. Like I said, I’m a big softy for whom the gran touring cars were obviously designed ETA: On the servicing there was a vehicle health check you had to do in-between the actual proper services - I did them as I was told strict adherence was needed to stay eligible within the 10 year warranty…not sure if it was true, but didn’t have my GRY long enough to warrant investigation Edited by NRG1976 on Friday 7th February 21:35

NRG1976 said: Like I said, I’m a big softy for whom the gran touring cars were obviously designed ETA: On the servicing there was a vehicle health check you had to do in-between the actual proper services - I did them as I was told strict adherence was needed to stay eligible within the 10 year warranty…not sure if it was true, but didn’t have my GRY long enough to warrant investigation Edited by NRG1976 on Friday 7th February 21:35 Believe they’ve changed that requirement. Well my dealer no longer asks for it..

Benzooki said: I see no difference at all. Google is your friend (other search engines are available)

I have a gr Yaris that’s my daily and a 981 gt4 (previously a 992 gts). The Yaris is a great car, does most of the work over the winter months and you can have a bit of fun in all conditions.

MannyLon said: NRG1976 said: Had a GR circuit pack, lovely car if you’re on it and really pushing down a well sighted b road. Personally I hated the harsh ride when doing mundane duties and definitely didn’t want to use it on a motorway drive as found it tiring. So it hardly ended up getting used when I went out. Also found with 4wd being so good, it lost a bit of drama. It was more point and shoot, which was fun for a while but then became a bit bland unless you started doing silly speeds. 6 month service intervals were annoying. Harsh ride? Not compared to pork GT cars It needs light tuning to bring some drama. Servicing is every 6k miles. Like I said, I’m a big softy for whom the gran touring cars were obviously designed

OP here. Thanks everyone for your input - I'm joining the sporty Porsche + GRY club ! I've just today secured an allocation for a Gen 2 GRY, which I can spec and should be here in the summer. Not had a Toyota since a gen 2 MR2 back in the early '90s, but called up my nearest GR centre (150 miles away), they called up Toyota GB and I have one. Deposit paid, now I sit and wait. Bit different to the process to get a Porsche GT car...

Hergiswilreid said: OP here. Thanks everyone for your input - I'm joining the sporty Porsche + GRY club ! I've just today secured an allocation for a Gen 2 GRY, which I can spec and should be here in the summer. Not had a Toyota since a gen 2 MR2 back in the early '90s, but called up my nearest GR centre (150 miles away), they called up Toyota GB and I have one. Deposit paid, now I sit and wait. Bit different to the process to get a Porsche GT car... Have you seen a Gen 2 car in the metal...I ask as the digital dash looks and feels like a tacky cheap add on. You'll love the Yaris it's a hoot, I reckon my Cayman 987.2 would be sold before mine.

I moved from a 991.1 GTS to a GRY. The GRY is very easy to live with and great fun. It doesn't need to be on the limit to appreciate the steering quality and elegance ti the suspension set up. it isn't an obvious replacement to any 911, but I am limited by parking spaces, so one in one out. it is fair to say a few non-petrolhead friends thought I must have received a bump on the head! I would recommend the GRY to anyone but read my comments about the deal network first. Any owner will testify you will see the dealership 4x more frequently compared to the Porsche.... assuming no issues arise between services. Both fantastic, both use around the same amount of S/Unleaded fuel. The GRY surprised as to the breadth of its capabilities, even after reading all the reports. On long drives it was super (London to Perthshire, Scotland) absolutely fine. Radar Cruise is excellent. motorway speeds are lifted easily from the instantly available torque. Obviously not such a nice place to be inside, but not awful either. Very easy to park and leave. Never had any issues with people reacting to the car, although I didn't experience any with the 991 either, but I was more careful where I left the Porsche parked and generally didn't let customers see it. I was interested to see how such a light car would cope with the UK weather, and to be fair when washed it looked just as good after almost 4 years as it did the day I collected it. Now the warning. If anyone is making use of the car for higher mileage, the servicing will irritate with dealer visits every 6,000 miles or 6 months. Now I like many on here have complained about the OPC dealer network...... they are superb in comparison to the Toyota dealers! The dealer network for Toyota is why I will never have another Toyota. They are truly appalling. Car ragged during its service (trackers can be very useful!), car returned with tyres at 4 different levels, and the rears both higher than the fronts!! I had no confidence they could use the correct oil or in fact any confidence in the after sales. This spanned no less than 4 local dealers who were part of 2 large groups. Eventually, some 35 miles away I found an independent and they were fine. As an additional car it would be a great addition, subject to having a good local dealer. As an everyday car its also excellent.

Service isn’t every six months.

Strange. My dealer does not require it..

I do quite fancy one as a more usable alternative to my cliosport, but don’t fancy 6 monthly visits to the dealer. If I was retired then fine, but otherwise then too much of a PITA.

Serviced once a year at my local dealer and the warranty extended each year, no suggestion of 6 monthly checks to facilitate this.

IMac said: MannyLon said: Service isn’t every six months. I understand your point, and must adit to being tested to skip it. However for the reasons below, at the time I sold it, I was glad that I maintained the full six monthly visits. With the safety checks it require a visit to the dealership every six months. Toyota dealers do stamp the service book and having just sold mine, it was a requirement of a FSH. It was also confirmed by two dealers that the six monthly checks were required for the 10 year warranty. Is it a service.... probably not what we might expect a service to be. However, it appears to fit within the definition for the reasons above. Interesting ref the 6 month check impacting the warranty. Had mine for just over 3 years and needed some warranty work prior to selling. The lack of a 6 month check didn’t stop them honouring the warranty.

The safety check no longer appears as an option on the Toyota online booking system.

Its certainly inconsistent communication from Toyota. The number of annual renewals for the 10 year warranty will be limited as the only the earliest registered vehicles are starting their 5th year. The initial manufacturer warranty from new is different, and is not annually renewed. Clearly warranty claims have been paid outside of the initial 3 year warranty and in the absence of the 6 Month check. It will be interesting if anyone has had a warranty claim rejected due to not having the 6 month check. It will also be interesting to understand what the dealers view as FSH, now and in the future.

MannyLon said: Service isn’t every six months. I understand your point, and must admit to being tempted to skip it. However for the reasons below, at the time I sold it I was glad that I maintained the full six monthly visits. With the safety checks it requires a visit to the dealership every six months. Toyota dealers do stamp the service book and having just sold mine, it was a requirement of a FSH. It was also confirmed by two dealers that the six monthly checks were required for the 10 year warranty. Is it a service.... probably not what we might expect a service to be. However, it appears to fit within the definition for the reasons above. Edited by IMac on Wednesday 5th March 08:11

I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Off loaded it after 18 months of ownership from new Good on the twisty country roads but, very average in a straight line. Toyota also should have given it proper bucket seats as standard for extra support, found the standard seats pants.

throt said: I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Off loaded it after 18 months of ownership from new Good on the twisty country roads but, very average in a straight line. Toyota also should have given it proper bucket seats as standard for extra support, found the standard seats pants. Hardly comparable. The Yaris is quick and capable daily car, the GT3 a very expensive weekend toy. With the GT3 being 6 times more expensive, I’d expect it to be a lot better. Buckets don’t make any sense for a daily car. Same as the 18 way in the GT3, good for more regular trips.

throt said: I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Off loaded it after 18 months of ownership from new Good on the twisty country roads but, very average in a straight line. Toyota also should have given it proper bucket seats as standard for extra support, found the standard seats pants. Pretty quick upto 100 in my experience. Easily keeps up with GT cars on the lanes.

throt said: I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Surely that would always be the intention? Why else would you have a GT3? Hardly going to take it out in the wet.

I take my RS out in the wet too All I am saying is, the combo of a GRY and Porsche GT just did not work for me. GT made the GRY feel like a normal hatch, non event then

Stock GR Yaris does need a few tweaks to bring out the fun. Nothing expensive. They’re not as fun as GT cars but certainly more fun than non GT pork.

StoutBench said: throt said: I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Surely that would always be the intention? Why else would you have a GT3? Hardly going to take it out in the wet. Seriously not taking a GT car out in the wet? Why on earth not?

993rsr said: StoutBench said: throt said: I did have a GRY but, I always picked up the GT3 keys for sunny day burn outs Surely that would always be the intention? Why else would you have a GT3? Hardly going to take it out in the wet. Seriously not taking a GT car out in the wet? Why on earth not? I assumed that would be the reason for owning a GR alongside one especially with the comment around sunny day burns. All my cars are all weather.

Late to the party here but own a GRY circuit pack alongside a trio of water cooled GT Pork. Have owned lots of hot hatches over the years so the GRY is a good reference point. Great little weapon, especially in winter conditions with the 4wd and the diff set up. It's not perfect from a refinement and ergonomics perspective but if you prioritise the driving experience over everything else, it is right up there and should be on your list. It has genuine character and its cross country pace is undeniable. Very well screwed together, and reveals the depth of its capabilities the harder you drive it, so for me it's a car that always rewards and keeps you interested. I realise the drivetrain is fundamentally different but from an experiential perspective it reminds me of the Clio 182 I used to have twenty (can't believe I just wrote that) years ago from the perspective of how hard you can attack a give-or-take road without it ever feeling scrappy or getting over its skis.

Thanks again everyone for the different perspectives (OP here). I don’t expect the GRY to match the other cars in my garage in the summer or be used much then - that’s when my GT cars and Huracan Evo RWD get out to play. I have my GT cars on winter tyres from Nov-March and will still use them then, when it’s dry and sunny. But for those days when the roads are covered in snow/slush/salt and no good would come from taking a GT car out, I wanted something to turn to that will still give me the ‘pleasure of driving’ as I think EVO magazine put it. The GRY felt like a car that would do that. Time will tell.