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Use mask only

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I have used the mask only for a few shorter trips.

So I have this bra...
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Check with you local indy

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check with you local Indy on who they use.

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check with you local Indy on who they use.

So I have this bra...

Clean on the inside and don't let them get wet

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Both the car and the bra need to be clean on the inside and don't let them get wet.

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check with you local Indy on who they use.

So I have this bra...

Clean on the inside and don't let them get wet

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Both the car and the bra need to be clean on the inside and don't let them get wet.

So I have this bra...

Use mask only

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I have used the mask only for a few shorter trips.

So I have this bra...
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have an old school Bra. You know the type, they were way cool back in the day. I was thinking of fitting it on for long road trips but what are the opinions of these in the days of ppf? Are they too dorky now? I am aware of the dangers of using one and can fit it without paint damage. Does anyone else use one? A

POST 2Original post

I'd never use one, personally. They tend to cause more damage in the end than the protection they may provide.

POST 3Original post

PPF is a much better option. Expensive initial cost but don't have to remove it when you don't want your car not to look ugly.

POST 4Original post

I used one on my 944 and left it on long after a rain storm one time many years ago. When I pulled it off the paint underneath was faded, like it got baked with humidity and heat, and there was a wear line on the front panel at the edge of the bra. Off went the bra and sold it. Don't use a bra on the front of the car.

POST 5Original post

My car came with one stored in the frunk. Read too many bad stories so I am looking for a trashed bumper to put it on and mount it on the wall in rec room I also just had aero kit installed, rock chips required hood to be resprayed and now ppf on bumper and hood so I'm covered, literally.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks all! Most likely won't use it. But i thought it might be handy for road trips...I will look into the ppf any recommendations there? A

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 18033815

check with you local Indy on who they use. You can do the same with your local dealership. Don't waste your time with the old school bra. It will do more damage than its worth.

POST 8Original post

Back in the late 80s, I had a bra on my red 1986 VW Scirocco 16V and it faded clouded paint after being left on following a rain storm. I took it off and never re-installed it again. The paint eventually went back to normal.

POST 9Original post

I have a mask and a bra. I have only used this combination twice on trips over 1500 miles. The instructions advise you not use in the rain. I have used the mask only for a few shorter trips. No paint damage and I don't leave them on for long periods of time.

POST 10Original post

Over the past 20 years I have had the PPF on my car and replaced it 2x. I will replace it again over the next year or so. I highly recommend it. You never really know it's there unless you look very closely and boy does it save your paint from flying debris. I keep my car in my garage, so it doesn't sit out in the sun or in bad weather on a daily basis, so I haven't seen any yellowing. I replace it when there are one too many marks that develop from being hit by flying road stuff.

POST 11Original post

Bumper bra is good for auto-x cone impacts, good for track too except it�s looks ridiculous. The piece that goes over the frunk cover definitely helps at the track�well until it doesn�t. Look no chips!

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ha! Thats awesome, but hey it protected the hood!

POST 13Original post

You could burn it - that would by my suggestion.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18034848

Only if you provide the beers and the oil barrel!

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 18035168

Got plenty of beers and a burn barrel in the sticks of MA. Name your date amigo. I�ll even tempt you with the promise of lighting up a couple air bags.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 18034336

I was advised against PPF, but it may be more to do with the environment. My shop said that it should be removed every 4 to 5 years. He just had one car in that had PPF on it for an extended period and it needed to be replaced. Unfortunately, the film had bonded to the paint over time and the body shop had to literally sand it off and respray the paint. My guess is that Florida heat may impact the usable life of PPF, so if you go that route, talk to people/shops that have it and how much heat and sun they get on their cars. PPF helps, but it will not stop large rocks and FOD from causing damage. Bras have all the negative effects cited by others. Both the car and the bra need to be clean on the inside and don't let them get wet. Also, a loose fitting bra can cause wear on the paint. I just had my bumper and hood resprayed for the second time after 140K miles. I figure the cost of a respray is less than PPF.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 18035560

My Cayenne had PPF that had been left on too long and it was hands down one of the most miserable jobs I've ever had to deal with as far as removing it. I will never use a PPF and I will NEVER EVER buy another car that has it.

POST 18Original post

Woah! That has seen some bad days. Yep, my bet is that if the car lives outdoors in all types of weather for its life, it will be a mess to get off. I have kept mine garaged and you wouldn't know the PPF is 7 years old. I'll get a picture tomorrow in the daylight. Don't know if the 3rd removal will be a problem. It may be. The paint is 20 years old after all. To the points made, don't know if it's better to just run it without and get it repainted every so often after the car is chipped. At the end of the day, we will all need a respray unless you just sit your car in storage. What fun is that?

POST 19Original post

Reminds me of some of the ground in Death Valley.

POST 20Original post

I use one on the track and it certainly makes post track clean-up easier and protects from stone chips. Speed lingerie looks much better IMHO than the traditional black.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source posts: 18036105, 18036539

It was a two step nightmare. It took 10-15 hours to remove the 'film' and another 10-15 hours to remove the residual adhesive. Until this, I had never heard of plastic razor blades which made the job a little easier. In this pic you can see the film is removed around the crest but still has adhesive residue. I guess you could argue that it did its job because it did look good when it was finally all removed.

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