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Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

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YOUR RESEARCHRunning a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

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Install center rad

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On all 996 with factory fitted center rad that didn't have the top cut outs the air exited the rad downwards.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?
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Install so i can work out the hardware

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Temp fitted so i can work out the hardware.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

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I suspect its ment to go with a turbo bumper and air ducts.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Replace 996.2 bumper other than opening up the front

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Working on oil and water cooling and want to make sure I dont have to replace my 996.2 bumper other than opening up the front with a dremel.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Set ups

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Martin is on here too with posts about his big brake set-ups.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?
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Install center rad

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On all 996 with factory fitted center rad that didn't have the top cut outs the air exited the rad downwards.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Install so i can work out the hardware

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Temp fitted so i can work out the hardware.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Replace 996.2 bumper other than opening up the front

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Working on oil and water cooling and want to make sure I dont have to replace my 996.2 bumper other than opening up the front with a dremel.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Set ups

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Martin is on here too with posts about his big brake set-ups.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Use gt2 front bumper, i can't remember

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The bumper beam needs to be spaced forward which might be only if you're using the GT2 front bumper, I can't remember.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?

Use mk2 bumper vent ill have

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Also since i cant use the mk2 bumper vent ill have to make a gasket for ducting out the top.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?
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I suspect its ment to go with a turbo bumper and air ducts.

Running a Center Radiator on 996? If So, What Front Bumper?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey guys. Did you add a Center Radiator to your 996. If so, what front number are you running?

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Looks good man! Question, do you track it. If so, have you had any problems with air flow with the open front bumper and without the open holes on the top of the Bumper?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Tex, looks good! Any problems with airflow? In your opinion, can the bumper handle 140+ mph or does it need the top opened up like an RS bumper?

POST 6Original post

154 numerous times np great downforce but I’m switching to the aero bumper with carbon fiber lip soon

POST 7Original post

996.1 stock bumper with a better bodies lip. The center insert can be removed.

POST 8Original post

996.1 stock bumper (with tech art add ons). The center easily cuts out of the stock bumper.

POST 9Original post

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Yes, the factory Aerokit bumper(or GT3 bumper) is fine at speeds over 140 MPH. There‘s no need to cut a top Vent like an RS bumper. The top vent allows better airflow for the radiator, but the bumper doesn’t need it. YMMV with an aftermarket fiberglass or FRP bumper. I’d suggest a front splitter(I prefer the cup car due to its flexibility on the street) and a rear wing. Good suspension and good tires(most important) is important at triple digit speeds. On a smooth surface my car feels great at 140+. Hoping to see 160MPH at the Texas Mile in 2023. (engine rebuild will be during 2022 Texas Mile Fall Event) Not sure which wing I‘ll be running. I‘ve got lots of time to think about it.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Good feedback gentlemen. Working on oil and water cooling and want to make sure I dont have to replace my 996.2 bumper other than opening up the front with a dremel. ​​​​​​I worry about too much airflow pressure on the front bumper as I go from 125 to 145 from removing the center piece on the bumper as it flows past the 3rd radiator. Any additional feedback will be happily welcomed.

POST 11Original post

The cut outs would require a chimney to achieve the intended effect which is reducing front lift. On all 996 with factory fitted center rad that didn't have the top cut outs the air exited the rad downwards. Since all those where able to drive up to 155mph I'd say you're fine. If you care to spend the money and benefit from less front lift, then you'd need to get all the parts the 996 gt3rs used.

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Great action pic your car looks good . Any chance you have a part number on that front spoiler lip ?

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Thanks. Good feedback.

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Thanks Tex. Would love to hear about your set-up for next year as you get closer to the Texas Mile event.

POST 15Original post

I am curious about the top vent . If you have a center radiator that currently vents to the bottom , then add the top vent only with no additional duct work are there any negatives ? Yes I understand you won't get the full extent of the design but would it hurt cooling ? Or high speed stability ? In my simple DIY mind 😋 as you are flying along at 140+ the air through the center radiator will escape via the path of least resistance . So I " think " but don't know that means some out the bottom and some out the top . Thoughts ?

POST 16Original post

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The air through the center rad escapes in the path it is ducted.

POST 17Original post

What Zbomb said. There is supposed to be a duct behind the center radiator that feeds the air out through the bottom. When installing the chimney there is a different duct that feeds the air out of the chimney. The under-car exit radiator is tilted bottom forward to make room for the under-car exit duct while the chimney radiator is tilted top forward to make room for the chimney duct. The 996 Turbo runs the under-car exit duct and can do 195 mph so it must be OK.

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Excellent explanation thank you .

POST 19Original post

An interesting fact is that the non turbos including the gt3 did not get the panel/duct that the turbo got to direct the air flow down. U can buy it off the turbo pet and add it. All aero bumpers have the vents on the bottom not sure about a standard bumper. If u want an above bumper exit for down force. U have to buy the cup parts. The center rad syatem not including the rad is well north $1k. I just bought the chimney duct for may car for about $160 and im gonna mod the rest if the parts to make it work. Ill post a pic or 2 here but it will mostly be in my motor swap thread.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Thanks for the details. Definitely a good to know for planning.

POST 21Original post

Martin is on here too with posts about his big brake set-ups. You Tube Source is page 77 of this very worthwhile thread : http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=125...er=asc&start=0

POST 22Original post

Rsr or cup chimney for an 996mk2. For the price of around $150 it was not worh me fabing up this duct. 996.575.325.30

POST 23Original post

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https://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.c...-polyeurathane jnelso also has the same on painted.

POST 24Original post

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Thanks for the link , nice subtle look very clean . May be adding one to mine .

POST 25Original post

Temp fitted so i can work out the hardware. I suspect its ment to go with a turbo bumper and air ducts. I thunk im gonna have to flip the rad too so the ports r at the bottom

POST 26Original post

I don't know if the Turbo guys flip the rad when changing to the GT2 setup. I do know that the hoses are too short to tilt the rad the way it needs to go. Some guys cut & splice the hoses, some guys found a 997 hose that can be cut to fit. The bumper beam needs to be spaced forward which might be only if you're using the GT2 front bumper, I can't remember. Also since you are starting with a Mk1 might be even more different.

POST 27Original post

Yea im almost done setting it up. The drivers side hose is fine, pass side will need to be extended a few inches. So far the modification is not that hard. Went to lowes and bought a bunch of spasers and figurrd out what worked. I have to get my bumper back from paint before i figure out the rubber boot in front. Also since i cant use the mk2 bumper vent ill have to make a gasket for ducting out the top.

POST 28Original post

More pics. Rad is mostly in and done. Had to heat gun the air guide boots some but it fits like a glove

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