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Front side undertrays - are they important?

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YOUR RESEARCHFront side undertrays - are they important?

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I was quite surprised when I checked the other side to see that that one must have vanished at some point in the recent past as well.

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Use condition, not damaged

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<p>Passenger front arch liner off a 2004 986 boxster, will also fit 996.1 911</p><br /><p>In good used condition, not damaged.

Front side undertrays - are they important?

good idea

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So sounds like it's probably a good idea to replace rather than ignore.

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plastic hex nuts (seen below)

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Also if the problem is with the plastic hex nuts (seen below) then try the metal spring disc type (see further below):

Front side undertrays - are they important?

rubber lip & air ducts as well

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Suspected cause · Original poster

and probably the rubber lip & air ducts as well.

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Check other side

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I was quite surprised when I checked the other side to see that that one must have vanished at some point in the recent past as well.

Front side undertrays - are they important?

Check under the car

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From a quick google and checking under the car, it looks like these might actually be part of the wheel arch liner.

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Replace rather than ignore

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So sounds like it's probably a good idea to replace rather than ignore.

Front side undertrays - are they important?

Replace whole liner would be a bit more hassle

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Replacing the whole liner would be a bit more hassle but possibly not a bad idea just on general principle.

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<p>Passenger front arch liner off a 2004 986 boxster, will also fit 996.1 911</p><br /><p>In good used condition, not damaged.

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good idea

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So sounds like it's probably a good idea to replace rather than ignore.

Front side undertrays - are they important?

plastic hex nuts (seen below)

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Suspected cause

Also if the problem is with the plastic hex nuts (seen below) then try the metal spring disc type (see further below):

Front side undertrays - are they important?

rubber lip & air ducts as well

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Suspected cause · Original poster

and probably the rubber lip & air ducts as well.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

For a few years now I've had a running battle with the side undertrays at the front of my C4. They work loose, I insert some new trim fasteners, and all is good for a while longer. Yesterday on a spirited drive through North Wales (absolutely glorious, by the way. Sun peeking through the clouds and snow on the tops. Fabulous) a cattle grid must have done for the last remaining fastener and from the scraping sound I knew it was dragging along the ground pretty much immediately. Sadly by the time I nursed the car to the nearest shop likely to sell something to help shore it up, it was too late and the undertray was gone. I was quite surprised when I checked the other side to see that that one must have vanished at some point in the recent past as well. So my question is, with both side undertrays gone, were they actually doing anything useful/important? Or can I just ignore the fact that they're not there and not have to worry about checking them ever again?

POST 2Original post

No doubt Alex will be along with some wisdom given his car has covered nearly 200k. My view would be is that they are not a cosmetic feature, but there to protect the underside from road debris and may assist in parts lasting longer rather than corroding. There may also be a benefit with airflow, alas I am not an engineer nor Porsche officianado

POST 3Original post

+1 to what Karl said above, the side ones are mainly to protect from road crap. The front and the rear are a bit more useful, as they channel air to cool engine, brakes etc and have aero benefits. I once forgot to refit the front undertray after doing some work, and the car was VERY sketchy at speed.

POST 4Original post

Alex has now come along to stick his two penneth in.........Karl has pretty much nailed it with what he's said. Which fasteners are the ones that are coming loose?

POST 5Original post

Looks like he needs a bit more than fasteners now…..

POST 6Original post

Trays can be picked up from the scrapers pretty easily.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yeah it's gone a bit further than fasteners! So sounds like it's probably a good idea to replace rather than ignore. From a quick google and checking under the car, it looks like these might actually be part of the wheel arch liner. Can anybody confirm this? Replacing the whole liner would be a bit more hassle but possibly not a bad idea just on general principle.

POST 8Original post

Yes it's the full wheel liner. I replaced one of mine a couple of years ago after hitting a deer. Picked one up off Steve Strange at Douglas Valley Breakers for around £60 I think. I've never had any come undone though. I'd make sure all the fasteners are genuine Porsche ones. Also if the problem is with the plastic hex nuts (seen below) then try the metal spring disc type (see further below):

POST 9Original post

you need the front undertrays for the risk of FOD foreign object damage

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Right thanks all. Looks like I need a pair of these (2002 C4 Cab) https://www.design911.co.uk/p/front-wheel-housing-liner--left-porsche-996-carrera/ and probably the rubber lip & air ducts as well. I know what I'm doing this weekend

POST 12Original post

+1 with the breaker route, new plastics can be hideously expensive and breakers are your friends here. It is not as if it is a cosmetic item and you could save £££’s over new

POST 13Original post

.........and still end up loosing it the next spirited drive. Better to lose small than lose big.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes point taken! Any recommendations for breakers/online sellers? Ebay not coming up with anything terribly obvious.

POST 15Original post

PORSCHE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE WHEEL ARCH LINER NEAR SIDE 996 911 BOXSTER 986 | eBay <p>Passenger front arch liner off a 2004 986 boxster, will also fit 996.1 911</p><br /><p>In good used condition, not damaged. </p><br /><p>I’ve got all the clips for it too. </p><br /><p>Collection welcome in Brigg, North Lincolnshire. I can post </p> www.ebay.co.uk PORSCHE BOXSTER FRONT WHEEL ARCH LINER RIGHT SIDE O/S 99650420406 | eBay Boxster 986, 1997 - 2004 Year + Carrera 996.1 Cars 1997 - 2001 (3.4Litre). UK Driver Side - O/S - RH - R. www.ebay.co.uk

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