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I'd like to take the 996 back there, but the Miata was probably a better car for that piece of road.

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Plenty of room at the bottom of the hill to turn around and run right back up.

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Plenty of room at the bottom of the hill to turn around and run right back up.

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Use force kc the clues are there

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Use the force KC the clues are there..

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I'd like to take the 996 back there, but the Miata was probably a better car for that piece of road.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I live about an hour from the Tail of the Dragon but haven't ever driven it. I know, I know. Anyway, this route (which someone has named The Rattler) is right out my front door (sort of) and convenient to I-40, Exit 24 in NC. It is lightly traveled and a lot of fun. There is gravel on the edges of the pavement sometimes because of the good ol' boys kicking it up with their trucks, and the occasional slow mover, but nicely scenic and varied, and the last leg towards Leicester is mostly down hill so you don't have to punish the engine to go pretty quickly. Sorry, I can't figure out how to paste the actual map so here is the link. https://goo.gl/maps/t6FCqEUf61p

POST 2 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I can post a picture though. This one marked 15 MPH is followed by one marked 10 MPH which you don't see too often!

POST 3Original post

Uh, am I missing something - the road and the sign don't appear to match really well.

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 12859198

Even as a Brit I think your missing something! But back to the picture even a HDave could go round what you can see at 15mph, its what you cannot see just behind the tail of the Porsche in the picture its a tight left... Use the force KC the clues are there.. O_Sr

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes, you usually find the yellow advisory signs before the corner, as this one is. There is a hard left hiding behind that guard rail. Sorry - the position of my car is confusing this a little I think.

POST 6Original post

I drove the Devils Whip, near Asheville, last summer in my Miata. LOT'S of fun!!! One turn even mandated a downshift into first. I'd like to take the 996 back there, but the Miata was probably a better car for that piece of road. My wife got carsick!!!

POST 7Original post

The link's not working for me - just showing the general area. Is that Betsy's Gap Road? Looks like a fun ride. Nothing like that around here. You're lucky to live so close that you can go hit Betsy's Gap whenever you want.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 12859270

Rick: Thanks, I see it now. Seriously, I didn't at first. Guess I was distracted by my lunch of blood pudding and stargazey pie.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sorry you can't see the map. The link in my post opens right up for me and shows the loop in blue on the Google map. Below is the info from the Rattler website, but I don't do it that way. About halfway to Hot Springs, starting at the Lake Junaluska end, I turn South in Trust on 63 which is a great twisty road running down into Leicester. In Leicester, I make a (poorly marked) right turn onto Newfound Rd. which is a country road back to I-40 at Exit 37. If traveling I-40 in this area of NC, you could take Exit 24 and run this the way I do and end up at Exit 37 or you could take Exit 37 and run it the opposite direction and end up at Exit 24. An energetic workout and diversion from your Interstate travels Rattler link: http://www.209therattler.com/map.html

POST 11Original post

Man... Don't go giving away our best roads. Let all the tourists parade up and down the Tail following some Harley club from NJ, while we drive the Rattler, the Diamondback, and my favorite, NC 151 just south of Asheville. North Carolina used to pride itself as the "Good Roads State," and it still is.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Yeah, I thought about that! But I see so few P-Cars around my area that I felt it was safe to tip off the flatlanders and Yankees

POST 13Original post

318 turns in 11 miles. Got to a bit to beat that. And yes, I did drive the Dragon.

POST 14Original post

NC 151 just south of Asheville. Runs down from the Blue Ridge Parkway. It's a roller coaster, with top speeds of maybe 30 mph. Plenty of room at the bottom of the hill to turn around and run right back up.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

To each his own. I like a little respite between a series of switchbacks and constant corner after corner is more work than fun for me.

POST 16Original post

finally, somebody that has been on the 151, the devils drop. This may be my favorite road. DANGER NO TRUCKS NO TRAILERS DO NOT ENTER IN ICE CONDITIONS. thats what the sign says I also like the 276 the rattler is good especially the 63 part. The 80 is good too. I think all of these are as good at the tail and alot more scenic

POST 17Original post

151 is a hidden gem. Technical drive but very lightly traveled.

POST 18Original post

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There are some amazing roads in that part of the country. The only problems are multi-generation, red-neck locals in beat-up pickups who pay no attention to what double yellow lines are meant for, seniors who've forgotten which pedal is for "go" and fall foliage season tourists. I spent 11 years living off of US 276 in the Brevard area, and it has two very choice sections: The first comes up out of SC into NC (on the left, below) and climbs about 2000 feet in elevation with no intersections and only a couple of driveways; the second (on the right) starts at Brevard and rises (again) about 2000 feet going up to the Blue Ridge Parkway. Early Sunday mornings can be amazing drives. And while I was back there I did manage to cross The Dragon off of my Bucket List, but even on an August Tuesday, the amount of traffic made it disappointing. The secondary highways on the way to and returning from The Dragon were a lot more fun.

POST 19Original post

I like the part from canton going south to the BRP, really steep

POST 20Original post

Generally speaking .... anything going up to or down from the BRP is a great drive. You can not go wrong with this region.

POST 22Original post

Phoenix Metro has the gem called South Mountain park. The roads and dips are awesome, but you have to drive them many times over to get a feel for turns as most are invisible as this kid found out. You can pull off the "anti-gravity" on the few dips around the tower, feeling your butt float out of the seat along with everything that's laying free in the car is epic. BMW crashes into rocks - South Mountain Park, AZ - YouTube

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