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It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

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YOUR RESEARCHIt's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

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The FabSpeed unit did put the nail in the coffin of the original O2 sensors, so replaced those after tripping a CEL, but smooth sailing thereafter.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)
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Recommend listening

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I have seen several engines replaced or disassembled mistakenly because of failing cats so I always recommend listening to the cats first for a thorough diagnosis

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)
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Replace with fabspeed cat setup and it seemed

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I replaced with Fabspeed cat setup and it seemed to do the trick!

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Recommend listening

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I have seen several engines replaced or disassembled mistakenly because of failing cats so I always recommend listening to the cats first for a thorough diagnosis

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Replace got a sample analyzed, and continued driving/listening

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Since I really didn't have much to lose, I did an oil change, got a sample analyzed, and continued driving/listening.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Use stethoscope

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I narrowed the sound down to driver side cat using a stethoscope, and after I removed that cat to inspect it had a clear rattle.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)
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Recommend listening

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I have seen several engines replaced or disassembled mistakenly because of failing cats so I always recommend listening to the cats first for a thorough diagnosis

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Replace got a sample analyzed, and continued driving/listening

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Since I really didn't have much to lose, I did an oil change, got a sample analyzed, and continued driving/listening.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Replace those

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The FabSpeed unit did put the nail in the coffin of the original O2 sensors, so replaced those after tripping a CEL, but smooth sailing thereafter.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Replace with fabspeed cat setup and it seemed

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I replaced with Fabspeed cat setup and it seemed to do the trick!

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)

Use stethoscope

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I narrowed the sound down to driver side cat using a stethoscope, and after I removed that cat to inspect it had a clear rattle.

It's not always bore scoring (cat rattle, Fabspeed fix)
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just wanted to throw a thread into the mix for those researching issues in the future. I had my vehicle in for annual state inspection around 120k miles and it had no issues. However when I was pulling out of the garage I noticed a noise, sort of a rattle from the rear. ​​​​​​ 90% of the research led to bore scoring threads and videos, however mine was different. I narrowed the sound down to driver side cat using a stethoscope, and after I removed that cat to inspect it had a clear rattle. I have oil analysis done 2x per year and my numbers have always been solid, which is why I started looking for external causes (spark plug shields, loose clamps etc). I replaced with Fabspeed cat setup and it seemed to do the trick! Link below to video of before and after sound. You Tube

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Good video !! I have seen this before and mentioned it many times when people are trying to diagnose the ticking/knocking on M96 engines.... I have seen several engines replaced or disassembled mistakenly because of failing cats so I always recommend listening to the cats first for a thorough diagnosis

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But that didn�t/doesn�t sound like bore scoring� It sounded more like a mechanical rattle not sync�d to the engine rpm (as bore scoring does). In any case, glad you got it figured out!

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Agreed. Initially I thought maybe plug shields since I recently did my spark plugs and coils. However, I did swing by a nearby Porsche dealer to check some cars they just got in, and I had a tech come out and have a listen. His words were "man, I haven't heard exactly that before.....sounds to me like bottom end." Since I really didn't have much to lose, I did an oil change, got a sample analyzed, and continued driving/listening. Oil came back fine around the time I noticed the sound was most pronounced at driver side cat. Hopefully this thread will save someone's sanity in the future

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Yes his was more erratic/rattly sounding but I have heard the cats make a knocking sound in prefect rhythm to the RPM/exhaust pulses.......

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Same happened to me in May. Left cat was just old (both were the original OEM) and the rattling was attributed to the expansion of the cat itself. Went with FabSpeed, and considered Soul, but the back order for the latter was ridiculous. Aside from the small notice in HP and torque, the real immediate feel was the loss of 11 lbs in the rear, and it made the car feel that much more balanced. The FabSpeed unit did put the nail in the coffin of the original O2 sensors, so replaced those after tripping a CEL, but smooth sailing thereafter.

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