Turbo S maintenance costs - Page 2 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

I'm looking at buying a 991 turbo S and trying to get a general idea of maintenance and upkeep costs. Pads/disks General servicing And any other niggling faults that might rear their ugly head during ownership. Apologies as I'm sure these questions have been answered 100 times but any guidance would be greatly appreciated thanks.

We are still on original pads and discs 36,000 miles. Servicing every two years maybe nets out to £1500 per year as there are a couple of big services over an 8 year period from new. We needed a few things under warranty incl a turbo. If you're buying best to buy a car with a 2 year extended warranty which will keep your running costs low. Our warranty about to expire at 8 years. Debating whether to extend or not as other than the faulty turbo its been reliable with no niggles. They need to be used regularly to stay in good condition. If you can stretch to a gen 2 worthwhile as it had significant upgrades inc bigger turbos and better fueling system. Amazing tech too like boost while braking etc. There's some really nice examples in the classifieds on PH.

Thank you that's just what I wanted to hear, the reliability is the main reason I've decided to go with Porsche

I was looking at the Mclaren 570s but they come with a whole host of problems each one more expensive than the last. I'll definitely be pushing towards a gen 2, my wife has her brand new golf, conservatory and windows, so seems like a fair trade to me 😂

I have a 991 on a Porsche warranty - which means I am tied to the main dealer network for servicing at £301 an hour. But.... a service every two years, so the man maths can divide by two I suppose. To be honest it's no more expensive than something like a Morgan which costs me easily over £1k a time annually for a service, sometimes a whole heap more.

But overall your opinion would be to have Porche extended warranty if possible? it's going to be at least 12 months before I can afford to buy the car as I'm planning on spreading my drawings across two financial years otherwise I really am going to get creamed

To throw my two penneth into the pot - the Turbo rather than the S has the same servicing/warranty costs as the normal 911 (whereas the S is quite a bit more). 4 years and 23K miles into ownership of a 991.2 cab and it's been great - and thoroughly painless.

NDA said: I have a 991 on a Porsche warranty - which means I am tied to the main dealer network for servicing at £301 an hour. But.... a service every two years, so the man maths can divide by two I suppose. To be honest it's no more expensive than something like a Morgan which costs me easily over £1k a time annually for a service, sometimes a whole heap more. Don't the 991's require annual oil and filter change too?

I guess the really fastidious could go to an indy and change the oil between main dealer services. It wouldn't do it any harm... but I do a low mileage and if Porsche don't think it's needed, then I'm tempted to agree.

SV_WDC said: NDA said: I have a 991 on a Porsche warranty - which means I am tied to the main dealer network for servicing at £301 an hour. But.... a service every two years, so the man maths can divide by two I suppose. To be honest it's no more expensive than something like a Morgan which costs me easily over £1k a time annually for a service, sometimes a whole heap more. Don't the 991's require annual oil and filter change too? No. At least not according to Porsche. I tried to book my 911 in after 12 months from the previous service and they emailed me to say this was unnecessary - only after 2 years or 20,000 miles. Edited by NDA on Thursday 8th May 13:37

My 991.2 GT3 is every two years too. Saying that, it’s booked in for a mot next week and I’ve asked them to do an oil change at the same time…. Edited by Imasurv on Thursday 8th May 13:39

Service schedule is every 2 years/20,000 miles and alternates from a minor to a major service, pricing for servicing is fixed (generally) if you are using an OPC, but ring around and you will find some variance annoyingly. Join Porsche club GB and get 10% discount so that pays for itself come service time. As for warranty, if you are buying within the Porsche network it should come with a 2 year warranty and it would be up to you to determine whether to extend that. Personally I have had various claims over the years which would have far outstripped the cost of the warranty to date. You can obviously use an indy for interim oil changes and things like consumables, brake pads etc rather than pay OPC prices, it shouldn't affect warranty if using OEM parts.

What is the oil capacity out of interest? I know it's negligible in the grand scheme of things but my RS6 took 9lts for an oil service and at at main dealers just the cost of oil had a certain sting to it

Retchtub45 said: I was looking at the Mclaren 570s but they come with a whole host of problems each one more expensive than the last. I'll definitely be pushing towards a gen 2, my wife has her brand new golf, conservatory and windows, so seems like a fair trade to me ?? There's an interesting Youtube by John Thorn of Thorney Motorsport sharing their service experience on these ... maybe not as expensive as you think particularly with their extended warranty ??

I'd always prefer to run it with a warranty but in reality other than basic servicing the only other thing I had replaced was an Active Engine Mount but which was under warranty and is relatively common. For the performance, they really are great value and relatively cheap to own.

Retchtub45 said: What is the oil capacity out of interest? I know it's negligible in the grand scheme of things but my RS6 took 9lts for an oil service and at at main dealers just the cost of oil had a certain sting to it Offering my 2 pennies worth. I am a 991.1 owner and had enquired about the turbo. The advice provided by 911 Virgin is do not own one outside of the Porsche warranty. The turbos have an oil feed issue which “will” not “may” go. The cost to fix is about 7-10K. The monthly cost of a Porsche warranty is 100 per month. It is a complete bumper to bumper warranty with no exceptions as long as the car is serviced at Porsche within the usual 2 year span. That means either buy from the Porsche network or in the process of buying one have it inspected by Porsche first. When inspected by Porsche any issues they find has to be resolved before you can get a warranty from them; which can be a bargaining tool when negotiating with an independent.

the turbo oil feed design fault is on the 3.0 991.2 Carrera, Carrera S, T, and GTS. Not on full fat turbo or turbo s.

I always have my Indy change the oil yearly, then to Porsche for the 2 year service. I can’t imagine running a car on the same oil for two years. Though I’m probably a dinosaur I will never change that viewpoint.

Bear in mind though - that if you are buying used from a private seller, the warranty is on the CAR not the owner, and on a private sale this moves with the car. So don't let buying privately put you off if this is in place. When I've sold my cars in the past, I've always made sure that there's at least a year of porsche warranty on the car - for buyers peace of mind. Also - porsche no longer insist on a pre-warranty inspection before renewing it (the theory being that it's already under warranty, so what's the point in inspecting something you've already got an agreement to sort).

JamesW said: Bear in mind though - that if you are buying used from a private seller, the warranty is on the CAR not the owner, and on a private sale this moves with the car. So don't let buying privately put you off if this is in place. When I've sold my cars in the past, I've always made sure that there's at least a year of porsche warranty on the car - for buyers peace of mind. Also - porsche no longer insist on a pre-warranty inspection before renewing it (the theory being that it's already under warranty, so what's the point in inspecting something you've already got an agreement to sort). Thanks for adding the clarity on the warranty being on the car not the owner ( I should have made that clear). The point I am making about the PPI is the scenario where the car is out of warranty and being sold on. In that case I would take it to Porsche - have the inspection and then get the warranty assuming there are no issues identified by Porsche.

FrancisA said: JamesW said: Bear in mind though - that if you are buying used from a private seller, the warranty is on the CAR not the owner, and on a private sale this moves with the car. So don't let buying privately put you off if this is in place. When I've sold my cars in the past, I've always made sure that there's at least a year of porsche warranty on the car - for buyers peace of mind. Also - porsche no longer insist on a pre-warranty inspection before renewing it (the theory being that it's already under warranty, so what's the point in inspecting something you've already got an agreement to sort). Thanks for adding the clarity on the warranty being on the car not the owner ( I should have made that clear). The point I am making about the PPI is the scenario where the car is out of warranty and being sold on. In that case I would take it to Porsche - have the inspection and then get the warranty assuming there are no issues identified by Porsche. I bought mine privately - I asked the seller to put it through the 111 check (at my expense) and then take out the warranty (at my expense) and then I bought the car. I have as much protection as buying from a dealer and with all the costs probably saved around £3-5k from dealer pricing. I didn't do this to save money, but the car was the spec I wanted, it just happened to be sold privately.

NDA said: FrancisA said: JamesW said: Bear in mind though - that if you are buying used from a private seller, the warranty is on the CAR not the owner, and on a private sale this moves with the car. So don't let buying privately put you off if this is in place. When I've sold my cars in the past, I've always made sure that there's at least a year of porsche warranty on the car - for buyers peace of mind. Also - porsche no longer insist on a pre-warranty inspection before renewing it (the theory being that it's already under warranty, so what's the point in inspecting something you've already got an agreement to sort). Thanks for adding the clarity on the warranty being on the car not the owner ( I should have made that clear). The point I am making about the PPI is the scenario where the car is out of warranty and being sold on. In that case I would take it to Porsche - have the inspection and then get the warranty assuming there are no issues identified by Porsche. I bought mine privately - I asked the seller to put it through the 111 check (at my expense) and then take out the warranty (at my expense) and then I bought the car. I have as much protection as buying from a dealer and with all the costs probably saved around £3-5k from dealer pricing. I didn't do this to save money, but the car was the spec I wanted, it just happened to be sold privately. I did the same, however I had a close call - after I brought the car the PADM went (common issue on all cars), which cost £1400 to sort at my local Indy - luckly the selling garage picked up the tab for me. It cost about £900 to put through the 111 check - they wanted some really silly things done like replace fuel cap as the string was broke etc. Plus £1250 for the warranty for the year

Retchtub45 said: Thank you that's just what I wanted to hear, the reliability is the main reason I've decided to go with Porsche Don't kid yourself that Porsches are bullet-proof. They do go wrong, and there is plenty of evidence of cost-cutting in the way they're designed and built these days. My 997 had a fuel pump go (and its replacement did the same shortly after); my 981 Cayman had an unbalanced driveshaft (the OPC replaced the PDK gearbox first and then found that hadn't solved the problem), and my current 991.2 has been in the OPC for three weeks after failing with overheating. But I'm still a fan of the brand (though my eyes have been opened over the years). The Porsche warranty is very good. Buy with one and keep extending it. Glad I have.

Maxym said: Retchtub45 said: Thank you that's just what I wanted to hear, the reliability is the main reason I've decided to go with Porsche Don't kid yourself that Porsches are bullet-proof. They do go wrong, and there is plenty of evidence of cost-cutting in the way they're designed and built these days. My 997 had a fuel pump go (and its replacement did the same shortly after); my 981 Cayman had an unbalanced driveshaft (the OPC replaced the PDK gearbox first and then found that hadn't solved the problem), and my current 991.2 has been in the OPC for three weeks after failing with overheating. But I'm still a fan of the brand (though my eyes have been opened over the years). The Porsche warranty is very good. Buy with one and keep extending it. Glad I have. To put into context how good the Porsche warranty is I have a 2012 991.1. The bluetooth connection keeps dropping on the PCM. Porsche have tried a software update to no avail. The whole PCM unit is being replaced. That is how good the Porsche warranty is.

Maxym said: Don't kid yourself that Porsches are bullet-proof. They do go wrong, and there is plenty of evidence of cost-cutting in the way they're designed and built these days. My 997 had a fuel pump go (and its replacement did the same shortly after); my 981 Cayman had an unbalanced driveshaft (the OPC replaced the PDK gearbox first and then found that hadn't solved the problem), and my current 991.2 has been in the OPC for three weeks after failing with overheating. But I'm still a fan of the brand (though my eyes have been opened over the years). The Porsche warranty is very good. Buy with one and keep extending it. Glad I have. I totally understand that but it certainly seems Porsche are ahead of the pack with regards to reliability which means you can drive it without worrying the dash will light up like a Christmas tree if you decide to launch it and on top of that the doors actually close properly unlike my friends Vantage

NDA said: SV_WDC said: NDA said: I have a 991 on a Porsche warranty - which means I am tied to the main dealer network for servicing at £301 an hour. But.... a service every two years, so the man maths can divide by two I suppose. To be honest it's no more expensive than something like a Morgan which costs me easily over £1k a time annually for a service, sometimes a whole heap more. Don't the 991's require annual oil and filter change too? No. At least not according to Porsche. I tried to book my 911 in after 12 months from the previous service and they emailed me to say this was unnecessary - only after 2 years or 20,000 miles. Edited by NDA on Thursday 8th May 13:37 Not sure how correct that is. A colleague has been researching a 991 Turbo (purchased yesterday, in fact), and came across this within our research indicating that there is indeed the usual two year minor/major service, but an additional annual service item of oil & filter change: https://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/991-221/99... If OPC have emailed to say it's not required then probably covered if someone ever raises the discrepancy, but according to the Porsche manual, oil service is annual; at least, for the 991.2 it is

SV_WDC said: Not sure how correct that is. A colleague has been researching a 991 Turbo (purchased yesterday, in fact), and came across this within our research indicating that there is indeed the usual two year minor/major service, but an additional annual service item of oil & filter change: https://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/991-221/99... If OPC have emailed to say it's not required then probably covered if someone ever raises the discrepancy, but according to the Porsche manual, oil service is annual; at least, for the 991.2 it is According to Porsche "Porsche services need only be repeated every two years or 20,000 miles (12,000 miles for 911 GT models) for cars built after 2005 and your Porsche Centre will remind you when your service is due." But I'm sure the Rennlist forum know better.

The 911 maintenance schedules for the USA and UK/EU differ. No idea why but it's been that way for a long time. The US maintenance schedule in the RL link above was authored by "Porsche Cars North America, Inc". It would help if the factory or Porsche GB would include the maintenance schedule in the Service book like they do in the US. The intervals quoted by NDA are the ones I have. Still, I wouldn't run any high performance car for 20,000 miles on the same oil. I've done oil analysis on my standard Mini Cooper after 12,000 miles - the viscosity had just about dropped out of grade and there wasn't a huge reserve of detergent left.