Hey all,
I'm a long time
Porsche
fan, finally moving onto the
next
step. My budget is around $90K, maybe a little higher. I've owned a couple Corvettes in the past, a 1996 and a 2002 Z06. After driving a 2017 Caymen S, I'm no longer disgusted by the thought of an automatic, the
PDK
is pretty much amazing. The dealer I'm local to has a 2015
911
4S Cabriolet that appears to be a good deal. Only 2500 miles. Nicely optioned. As this is a 2015 I'm not finding a good description of the options available on this car. I've got a copy of the build sheet. It has, and my questions;
541 Seat Ventilation (front) - does this indicate the seats are heated as well, or is that another option?
P06 power Sport seats (14 way) with memory package - does that indicate heated seats?
XEX - Bi-zenon headlamps in black with
PDLS
- Does
PDLS
in 2015 mean the headlamps 'follow' the steering wheel motion when turning?
P3D - Premium packet i.c.w. power sports seats (14 way) - Anyone know what exactly this package includes?
P3H -
Bose
audio system - does this include Bluetooth and
SiriusXM
? the build sheet make no other references to nav/audio/connectivity options like the 2017/2018 online configurator does.
Questions - When backing up I didn't see a backup camera like on the 2017 Caymen I drove. Perhaps an option this car doesn't have? I also really liked the lane change assist on the Caymen. Is/was this an option or maybe standard on the
911
of 2015? It wasn't on the build sheet, not sure if it was an option or standard. I wasn't never in a position to see it activate on the short drive I took.
Finally, a
Porsche
religion question. Given the choice between a brand new Caymen S and this 2015 4S convertible, is the extra ~10K for a
911
worth it? The convertible aspect is a nice to have, but not a requirement. The micro-sized back seats aren't really a requirement either.
Sorry for all the questions. I just want to avoid any regrets!
Thanks,
Chuck
P.S. the entire build sheet looks like this. If I'm missing anything 'essential' please let me know:
2T - Jet black metallic
1V - Cabriolet roof in black
BR - Leather interior in black/platinum grey
176 - sport
exhaust
system
250 -
PDK
429 - 20"
911
turbo wheels
446 - WHeel center caps
541 - seat ventilation (front)
581 - Luggage net
970 - two tone leather interior
P06 - Power sport seats (14 way) with memory package
P3D - Premium package i.c.w. Power sport seats (14 way)
P3H -
Bose
audio
XeX - bi-Zenon headlamps in black with
PDLS
XXG - clear glass taillights
I can answer a couple of your quetions:
Heated seats are a standalone option no matter what seats (an not available on
LWBs
BTW)
PDLS
gives you swivelling
headlights
Backup camera is mandatory on 2017 and later cars sold in the U.S. Prior to 2017 it would have been optional (or part of a package) on Porsches
Whether to go with a new
cayman S
or a 2- year old
911
Cab is a personal decision...a 10k price difference will close up pretty quickly in terms of resale value though, as the
Cayman
starting from new will lose a lot more of its value in the
next
couple of years than the
911
(which has already seen its steepest depreciation).
Answers embedded below in bold:
Thanks. That is a good point about the depreciation the 2015 has already taken. It's list on the build sheet was 139k. I'm liking that deal more and more. Both were fantastic to drive. And listen to!
These are vastly different cars, rear engine, mid-engine, with the same objective in mind, go fast.
Cabriolet and Coupe are also vastly different experience.
First decide exactly what
Porsche
you want,
981
, 991, Cabriolet, coupe and then look for something or save until you have enough in your price range.
Reads like you just looking for a
Porsche
.-Richard
The
911
is a fantastic car. I switched from a
Boxster S
to a new
911
4s coupe. As others have commented, you have decide whether to get a coupe or cab.
Cayman
is a different car. Even if you have your heart set on this car, it may be worthwhile to drive a couple of other cars before deciding. 90k is a lot of money. You are buying someone else's options. A lot of the charm of buying these cars is personalization of the colors and options.