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YOUR RESEARCHAre VIN reports worth it for used car buyers?
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Also checking the IP found it flagged as "toxic" on stopforumspam.com and registered as "dolly" on another board that flagged him.
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Also have them check the rev counter report as stated above.
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In the end, between the pile of documentation he had (which we went through; manuals, repair log, receipts), and being introduced to his personal mechanic (and encouraged to continue using him), I felt comfortable skipping the PPI.
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Had it towed to a repair shop without a police report.
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Heck, he even sends me pictures and texts regarding minor changes/modifications/repairs he's making on his (gorgeous) 911, asking my thoughts, talking through options.
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In the end, between the pile of documentation he had (which we went through; manuals, repair log, receipts), and being introduced to his personal mechanic (and encouraged to continue using him), I felt comfortable skipping the PPI.
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Heck, he even sends me pictures and texts regarding minor changes/modifications/repairs he's making on his (gorgeous) 911, asking my thoughts, talking through options.
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In the end, between the pile of documentation he had (which we went through; manuals, repair log, receipts), and being introduced to his personal mechanic (and encouraged to continue using him), I felt comfortable skipping the PPI.
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Cheaper than “ hey you said this used car had no flaws without so much as any implied recompense if you happen to be wrong” report. I am never buying another one, but if I did, I would spend that money toward an extended warranty if I was that concerned.
If it's from a dealership, see if they'll pay for it... can't hurt to ask. "Show me the carfax" as the ad says.
For $10, it's not a big deal either way, but the PPI is important for sure. Be sure to do that, regardless. Get the
DME
info if it's a manual, and if it's an S-model then a borescope is important as well.
Good on the rev report but I can promise you nobody is disassembling my car for a bore scope when I sell it, guess the fastidious maintenance and a shoebox full of receipts will have to quell their nerves.
Welcome to P9,
@Mikerroq
- Here's my hot take.
1) VIN check? Yes. Plus, there's a free VIN check out there that I've used when I've been half-interested in a vehicle (that could be stolen -- especially smaller vehicles like Vespas). Better yet, just go ahead and spring for a CarFax. If you're seriously interested in a car and are already taking a test drive, pay the money and get a serious look at the car's history ASAP.
2) PPI - A PPI is ideal, but a seller isn't going to always want to deal with the hassle. I say it depends on the car and year, TBH. If it's a 987.1 (especially an S), I'd want to know about IMS and bore scoring (the latter of which can be seen). If any car is priced at a bargain steal price, odds are the owner is not going to want to deal with you getting a PPI. Just show up with cash (with a serious cash reserve) knowing you'll likely have to fix stuff. Trust me -- not everyone out there has ethics!
3) Buy from a fellow P9 or PCA member, or even a friend if/when the opportunity arises.
4) Finally, make sure you introduce yourself in the new members section (with photos if you can)! Cheers and welcome.
Hello.
I would definitely get a VIN report check to verify the mileage and crash/accident events. This is not a guarantee. Mileage hacks are extremely common; call your local DMV and ask them, you'll be surprised.
I would also get a PPI from a
Porsche
indi shop. You can have the tech look down the spark plugs holes to get some sort of idea about bore conditions (particularly bores, 6, 5 and 4. This would not take them long at all. A lot of shops now a days take pictures and videos for customers.
Also have them check the rev counter report as stated above.
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Always get carfax or equivalent for maintenance and mileage history, accidents, flood etc. I have called the dealers listed on the carfax to find out what was specifically done as some times the carfax is vague in description.
Get a PPi as well.
When I bought my 987.1 S the seller was adamant in his refusal of a PPI. Not because he feared anything wrong with the car would be uncovered, but because he's owned Porsches for the better part of four decades. His best friend (and roughly the same age) is a Porsche Gold Meister mechanic at a stealership and does
all
of his maintenance on
all
of his P-cars.
We had a lengthy discussion about bore-scoring, shift cables, AOS, etc. All the common failure modes for our cars. In the end, between the pile of documentation he had (which we went through; manuals, repair log, receipts), and being introduced to his personal mechanic (and encouraged to continue using him), I felt comfortable skipping the PPI.
In all my decades of buying and selling cars, this is the only car I've ever bought where I've become friends with the seller. We talk at least monthly, sometimes weekly, sometimes every other day. Heck, he even sends me pictures and texts regarding minor changes/modifications/repairs he's making on his (gorgeous) 911, asking my thoughts, talking through options. I marvel regularly over how buying a car led to this.
Carfax is only as accurate as what's reported. The second
911
I looked at revealed that even though the Carfax was clean, the car had been wrecked and not put back together correctly.
Hey there!
I totally understand the hesitation about whether it's worth it to pay for a VIN report. I was in the same boat when I bought my used car last year. I decided to get a report just to be thorough, and I ended up finding out some useful info. It wasn’t anything major, but it did confirm a few things about the car’s accident history and whether it had any title issues—definitely gave me peace of mind.
A report can be especially helpful if you’re buying from a private seller and want to verify details beyond what they’ve told you. I found a service called
https://detailedvehiclehistory.com
when I was looking up my car’s history. It was affordable and helped me not only verify the car’s past but also showed me the original factory options, including the trim level and any added packages. I ended up saving money in the long run because I knew exactly what I was getting into.
It’s totally worth it to have that extra information—especially when you’re planning on keeping the car for a while. Hope this helps!
A VIN report can reveal hidden issues like accidents, title problems, or odometer rollbacks that a seller might not mention. It’s a small price for peace of mind and could save you from a much bigger headache down the road.
I had a 1996 Mazda
Miata
that I threw into a ditch a month after I purchased it in 1999. Had it towed to a repair shop without a police report. 8k of repair repair to get it back to nice. That accident never showed up on Carfax.
Any info is better than nothing.
In my case it was helpful in that the car had spent most of it's life in Virginia and having lived there, I know that the car was at least looked at yearly for State Inspection.
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@Mikerroq
hasn't logged in since the day he created his account. Seemed kinda fishy to me so I dug deeper. His profile said he was from Highland Park IL, but his IP address is in Thailand. So I'm guessing his OP is just a sham question to establish a fake identity. Also checking the IP found it flagged as "toxic" on stopforumspam.com and registered as "dolly" on another board that flagged him.
So it's a shame all these thoughtful and well intended responses are wasted on him. However it is useful to help others. Btw original post is a common topic here, so there's plenty other threads where this type of discussion could be found.