987.2 2.9 - Page 3 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Anything I need to know about these? Do they feel special enough being the base Cayman and am I right in thinking most of the engine issues etc have been ironed out by now. What are thoughts on this example? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202303275...

That looks like a great example that is well priced. I have been out of the 987 loop for the best part of 10 years but I do remember the 2.9 being the sweetspot in terms of reliability without DI or that infamous bearing thing. Having said that my 987 had the odd issues like water pump or fan control board which were disproportionately expensive to fix. Not to mention the fragility of the Aircon condensers. Apart from that I can't see those cars depreciating much and they are wonderful to drive despite the silly gearing.

Ask to see the 12 year service record. It should include brake fluid, spark plugs, serpentine belt and gearbox oil change. This is the most comprehensive service and should have been done last year for a 2010 car. I have no concerns about a car serviced by a Porsche specialist as OPCs can be very expensive.

I can't help noticing that the car is in Abingdon so perhaps worth checking if it had been maintained locally by Wrightune (wouldn't be surprising) and see if they'll give a view or an inspection. Not sure if it's still the same guy there but a top bloke anyway, forgot his name. Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 28th March 10:36

I have a 2.9 987.2 Cayman and it’s a great car. Annual mileage is 3-4k. I have it serviced at a Porsche Specialist and they’re incredibly fastidious so anything that needs doing, gets done.I find it plenty quick enough in the real world, you can have a lot of fun without getting to crazy speeds. It does feel special to drive and for me strikes a good balance between raw but useable. Other things not already mentioned to look out for are the Air Oil Separator which is fairly rare but revealed by smoke on a cold start. With the state of our roads, my lower control arms were all replaced at 50k miles as they’d developed a bit of play. Finally, I fitted Zunsport grills to protect the air con rads from stone damage. Well worth the price for peace of mind.

Thoughts on this example? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308110...

Here's a nice one - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307260...

Hippea said: Thoughts on this example? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308110... If it were me I'd take this one over the grey one. Ashgood are well regarded, and the blue is just a nicer colour IMO!

Crudeoink said: Hippea said: Thoughts on this example? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308110... If it were me I'd take this one over the grey one. Ashgood are well regarded, and the blue is just a nicer colour IMO! The blue one looks a lot better to me. Good to hear that Ashgood have a good reputation. I’m not clued up on specs but I’m guessing it’s one of the most basic specs you can get?

As 2.9s go, the spec on the blue one isn't all that bad. But it is pretty low spec in absolute terms. among gen 2 987s, even the 3.4s are usually pretty poverty spec. About one in 10 has a decent spec. For a 2.9, it's more like one in 20, especially manual. A PDK 2.9 with some spec is a tiny bit more common. The blue one has the now irrelevant nav / PCM, Sound Package Plus, rear parking sensors, cruise, climate. So of the options one might want but it doesn't have are Bose, xenons (standard headlights are awful, but fairly easily upgraded), PASM, PSE / switchable sports exhaust, extended leather, sports seats (well, or buckets, but a 2.9 with factory buckets is probably rarer than a 2.7 RS Lightweight), LSD (I assume no LSD, would be amazed if it had it). Depends what you are after. In driving terms, only PASM, PSE and the LSD are relevant. Well, and the wheels, but it's on 17s which are easily the best option for driving on a 2.9. Some of the other stuff can make it a much nicer thing if you care about them. Obviously less so if you don't. Anyway, if you want a high spec 2.9 (or even 3.4 Gen 2), be prepared for a possibly long wait. They don't come up much. I'm actually surprised how high Ashgood have priced that blue one given they are usually pretty sharp on price and given the mileage and the current market. Doesn't look quite as good a deal as their stock tends to. Unusual colour, very few in Midnight Blue.

flat6crocer said: As 2.9s go, the spec on the blue one isn't all that bad. But it is pretty low spec in absolute terms. among gen 2 987s, even the 3.4s are usually pretty poverty spec. About one in 10 has a decent spec. For a 2.9, it's more like one in 20, especially manual. A PDK 2.9 with some spec is a tiny bit more common. The blue one has the now irrelevant nav / PCM, Sound Package Plus, rear parking sensors, cruise, climate. So of the options one might want but it doesn't have are Bose, xenons (standard headlights are awful, but fairly easily upgraded), PASM, PSE / switchable sports exhaust, extended leather, sports seats (well, or buckets, but a 2.9 with factory buckets is probably rarer than a 2.7 RS Lightweight), LSD (I assume no LSD, would be amazed if it had it). Depends what you are after. In driving terms, only PASM, PSE and the LSD are relevant. Well, and the wheels, but it's on 17s which are easily the best option for driving on a 2.9. Some of the other stuff can make it a much nicer thing if you care about them. Obviously less so if you don't. Anyway, if you want a high spec 2.9 (or even 3.4 Gen 2), be prepared for a possibly long wait. They don't come up much. I'm actually surprised how high Ashgood have priced that blue one given they are usually pretty sharp on price and given the mileage and the current market. Doesn't look quite as good a deal as their stock tends to. Unusual colour, very few in Midnight Blue. Just because lots of people want a certain option it doesn't mean it is important to everyone, perfect example is climate - on a convertible. Even when the roof is up most people manage to both deal with heating controls and drive at the same time, means very little to me. Some options are an easy OE retro fit, eg cruise or different steering wheels, so again not a deal breaker. There is one poster on here that has been looking for a car for as long as I can remember, holding out for the 'right' spec on a used car, given that they are not making any more I would rather enjoy 90% of something than 100% of nothing.

flat6crocer said: As 2.9s go, the spec on the blue one isn't all that bad. But it is pretty low spec in absolute terms. among gen 2 987s, even the 3.4s are usually pretty poverty spec. About one in 10 has a decent spec. For a 2.9, it's more like one in 20, especially manual. A PDK 2.9 with some spec is a tiny bit more common. The blue one has the now irrelevant nav / PCM, Sound Package Plus, rear parking sensors, cruise, climate. So of the options one might want but it doesn't have are Bose, xenons (standard headlights are awful, but fairly easily upgraded), PASM, PSE / switchable sports exhaust, extended leather, sports seats (well, or buckets, but a 2.9 with factory buckets is probably rarer than a 2.7 RS Lightweight), LSD (I assume no LSD, would be amazed if it had it). Depends what you are after. In driving terms, only PASM, PSE and the LSD are relevant. Well, and the wheels, but it's on 17s which are easily the best option for driving on a 2.9. Some of the other stuff can make it a much nicer thing if you care about them. Obviously less so if you don't. Anyway, if you want a high spec 2.9 (or even 3.4 Gen 2), be prepared for a possibly long wait. They don't come up much. I'm actually surprised how high Ashgood have priced that blue one given they are usually pretty sharp on price and given the mileage and the current market. Doesn't look quite as good a deal as their stock tends to. Unusual colour, very few in Midnight Blue. That’s some great advice Interested that you think it’s overpriced, it seemed comparable to others on the market. If you look at the silver one someone posted above which is private and is more

Good point about 90% of the ideal spec car vs 100% of nothing. My 987.2 has all the options I wanted minus heated seated and an LSD. The LSD I'll likely get around to sorting next year and the heated seats i've learned to live without. The 987.2 is a great car and i'm sure you will enjoy it thoroughly. Just get one bought !

981Boxess said: Just because lots of people want a certain option it doesn't mean it is important to everyone. Don't think anyone was saying or implying that.

Hippea said: That’s some great advice Interested that you think it’s overpriced, it seemed comparable to others on the market. If you look at the silver one someone posted above which is private and is more Classifieds always rammed with overpriced private cars not selling, so not a great guide. Trade values are about 25% lower now than the pandemic peak. Price of the blue car is OK for the market generally, it's just not as keenly priced as I would expect from Ashgood given the mileage and market conditions. Their cars usually look particularly good value. That one just looks OK. These cars are quite mileage sensitive re values. So I didn't. and am not saying it's overpriced per se. But it's not the usual conspicuously good Ashgood deal.

flat6crocer said: 981Boxess said: Just because lots of people want a certain option it doesn't mean it is important to everyone. Don't think anyone was saying or implying that. Correct, I said it.

flat6crocer said: Hippea said: That’s some great advice Interested that you think it’s overpriced, it seemed comparable to others on the market. If you look at the silver one someone posted above which is private and is more Classifieds always rammed with overpriced private cars not selling, so not a great guide. Trade values are about 25% lower now than the pandemic peak. Price of the blue car is OK for the market generally, it's just not as keenly priced as I would expect from Ashgood given the mileage and market conditions. Their cars usually look particularly good value. That one just looks OK. These cars are quite mileage sensitive re values. So I didn't. and am not saying it's overpriced per se. But it's not the usual conspicuously good Ashgood deal. Out of interest what £ discount would you expect for a private sale vs a 'respected' specialist dealer on a typical 987.2? From my own experience it seems people will pay at least 2 grand more for exactly the same car from a dealer (for a 987.1 in my case) that they wouldn't have looked at privately, and that gap must grow as the value of the model increases. It doesn't appear to be just down to badly drafted adverts from private sellers, even with nicely shot pictures and a well written ad it doesn't make up for a lack of warranty/lack of come back/perceived reassurance on a private sale. Personally I prefer buying privately but appear to be in a minority. Although I was really stupid not to get an inspection when I bought my Cayman privately, it turned out to be a good un but it was a risk.

Having had a few 987.2s, my advice would be to compromise on spec but not on history/condition (inc the drive). Nice toys will add very little, but resolving problems can detract a lot. That said, I would draw the line at the smaller wheel size on the 2.9. I'd recommend making sure clutch and flywheel are in good nick, They're not cheap jobs. Re: private seller discounts, I think most sellers are pretty realistic but bear in mind that px values on 987.2s are often really poor, as they are sometimes incremental in 'the book' over the values of a pre-09 987.1. So some bargains can be had if the private seller has their eye on something else but is struggling to shift their Porker. In most cases there is wriggle room if the car needs work, but obviously it may have already been priced accordingly.

I actually think these cars could be great value for money now as most have passed their 12 year service interval which is always a biggie (especially for PDK cars which require the fluid change which adds a large sum to the job). Always best to buy on condition. The £2-3k premium on trade vs private sale is there but there's a big difference between Porsche specialist with a good reputation & issuing their own warranty & a general trade. That's not to say don't rule them out. Best advice to OP would be go to look at cars. You soon get an idea on the prep of different dealers/specialists. It is also then you can get a feel on what options you can live with versus without. Good luck!

WayOutWest said: Out of interest what £ discount would you expect for a private sale vs a 'respected' specialist dealer on a typical 987.2? From my own experience it seems people will pay at least 2 grand more for exactly the same car from a dealer (for a 987.1 in my case) that they wouldn't have looked at privately, and that gap must grow as the value of the model increases. It doesn't appear to be just down to badly drafted adverts from private sellers, even with nicely shot pictures and a well written ad it doesn't make up for a lack of warranty/lack of come back/perceived reassurance on a private sale. Personally I prefer buying privately but appear to be in a minority. Although I was really stupid not to get an inspection when I bought my Cayman privately, it turned out to be a good un but it was a risk. Personally, I'd want a 987 at about £5k-plus cheaper privately versus one of the better specialist traders. £2k discount is nowt in terms of rectifying a major problem if you buy a dud privately with no comeback. Then there's the reduced phaff factor of buying from one of the better traders versus having to arrange viewings, get an inspection done etc when buying privately. I value all of that at a lot more than £2k, that's not nearly enough to compensate for the elevated risk and phaff. There are a few dealers where I'd be happy to put a deposit on over the phone and turn up to buy should it pass cosmetic inspection, not under the assumption that it's definitely perfect, but rather than if I got it home and it had burned two litres of oil in 100 miles (or whatever), my arse would be covered and the situation would be sorted on way or the other. Only exception (which tbh I have personally had to make in the past) was for a (relative) unicorn spec 987.2 I paid probably £2k under trade for a private buy. Actually, have probably bought a couple of 987.2s that meet that description. So, it's easy to say I'd only pay £x, but the reality may be a bit different. Decent spec 987.2 3.4 manual are awfully thin on the ground. Probably about 15-20x the number of good spec GT4s available at any one time versus a good spec 987.2 3.4 manual. They all seem to be WFC recession spec. Wouldn't apply so much to the 987.1. Zillions of them, relatively, and much higher proportion have decent spec. Everyone is different in terms of how they value this stuff, but in terms of how long cars sit in the classifieds, the private cars priced near the trade definitely sit for longer. I think most buyers are nervous about private sales in general with cars like these, so any private car that's within a few £k of the trade is hard to shift.

I bought my 987.2 private, I didn't expect to pay much less than and OPC or "Specialist Dealer" if the car was spot on, I was really lucky with mine as it was the perfect spec I wanted, the previous owner knew the value of his car and I wanted the car so I didn't go in there offering daft money for it so not to piss him off, he argeed to have a 111 point check carried out at an OPC which I paid for and he'd fix any issues found which were none...he had a sale. Also and this is a major part of buying any car private not just a Porsche you get to meet the owner and see if they are decent or a chancer, also check out their place which gives a good idea of how the car has been treated, poorly maintained looking house and garden good chance the car will be the same...well maintaned property and tidy garden car equally nice...bingo you've hit the jackpot and you've got yourself a nice car...when you buy from a dealer you have no idea of any of the above. When I come to sell mine anyone coming to see it with a stupid low offer will be swifty sent on their way...if the car is good then why should a private sale not demand top money.

Klippie said: I bought my 987.2 private, I didn't expect to pay much less than and OPC or "Specialist Dealer" if the car was spot on, I was really lucky with mine as it was the perfect spec I wanted, the previous owner knew the value of his car and I wanted the car so I didn't go in there offering daft money for it so not to piss him off, he argeed to have a 111 point check carried out at an OPC which I paid for and he'd fix any issues found which were none...he had a sale. Also and this is a major part of buying any car private not just a Porsche you get to meet the owner and see if they are decent or a chancer, also check out their place which gives a good idea of how the car has been treated, poorly maintained looking house and garden good chance the car will be the same...well maintaned property and tidy garden car equally nice...bingo you've hit the jackpot and you've got yourself a nice car...when you buy from a dealer you have no idea of any of the above. When I come to sell mine anyone coming to see it with a stupid low offer will be swifty sent on their way...if the car is good then why should a private sale not demand top money. Spot on. Unless someone is desperate for money they are not going to accept stupid offers from chancers unless its a dog, in which case why would anyone want it. Most of these cars are weekend toys, most owners won't be desperate to sell.

I bought mine from these .Always had a few and Jason’s farther has quite a collection of pork at the back . About 18 m ago paid £ 15K for a agate manual 18 s heated seats and upgraded aftermarket hi fi / nav screen .The OEM apparently is / was rubbish .Was on 87 K with FSH .They did a service which inc the g box oil and the belt .It had recent N rated PS4 s and brakes too . It one of 4 cars so sits garaged for long ish periods with my ownership. These 2.9 s imho are the sweet spot in terms of lowest source of hassle going Fwds . Plenty of performance on todays U.K. pot holed , speed camera roads . They have one right now to gauge prices . A bit low on spec lacks heated seats and on 17 s . But it’s the provenance that trumps bits of leather or some other gadgets imho . Knowing it’s genuine and not been bent or had significant paint . https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308050... Edited by Fiammetta on Thursday 17th August 09:08

Klippie said: Also and this is a major part of buying any car private not just a Porsche you get to meet the owner and see if they are decent or a chancer, also check out their place which gives a good idea of how the car has been treated, poorly maintained looking house and garden good chance the car will be the same...well maintaned property and tidy garden car equally nice...bingo you've hit the jackpot and you've got yourself a nice car...when you buy from a dealer you have no idea of any of the above. Think that's a bit fanciful. I've viewed plenty of cars at tidy of homes where the owner skimped majorly on maintenance or just didn't understand how to look after a car and know someone whose house is a shambles and has two hermetically sealed GT3s. And these cars are old enough now that whoever you're buying from has probably only owned it a small fraction of its life, leaving you at little advantage over a dealer car re how the car has been treated. Good and bad cars available from both dealers and privately, can't see that you can generalise. Fiammetta said: These 2.9 s imho are the sweet spot in terms of lowest source of hassle going Fwds . No doubt this relates to the 3.4 being DFI and it's overstated. I've had the inlet of a previous gen 2 3.4 walnut blasted to have the crud build up removed and it cost £350 and that was in early 2021. Worst case scenario, you'd do that once every 75k miles. Even if it cost £1,000, it would hardly be onerous over the life of the car. It gets bigged up, but in practice it's a non issue. Not that I'm arguing against the 2.9. But the DFI versus indirect injection thing isn't a substantial reason to go 2.9.

flat6crocer said: No doubt this relates to the 3.4 being DFI and it's overstated. I've had the inlet of a previous gen 2 3.4 walnut blasted to have the crud build up removed and it cost £350 and that was in early 2021. Worst case scenario, you'd do that once every 75k miles. Even if it cost £1,000, it would hardly be onerous over the life of the car. It gets bigged up, but in practice it's a non issue. Not that I'm arguing against the 2.9. But the DFI versus indirect injection thing isn't a substantial reason to go 2.9. Hmm , it’s the knock on effect of the crud leading to compromised injector tips and thus unburnt fuel, leading to loss of lubrication, leading to a substantial cause of “ bore scoring “ which is found in some 9A1 - 3,4 s . There’s many flavours of bore scoring , not just the cylinder material of the 987.1 / 996 s also the oil / lubrication is the other in the absence of Mickey mouse cylinder open deck castings . Why opt in to this rabbit hole ? Especially with unknown PO usage patterns .These cars are over a decade old now .New back in the day , sure but you were wearing different goggles surrounded by warranties back then .Now you are not . For what a 0. Something quicker to 60 FWIW ? Or bar talk etc ? Edited by Fiammetta on Thursday 17th August 15:12

Ooh, controversy, just when I'd settled on a 987.2 Cayman S as the one to get next. Does the extra 20bhp/20lb/ft of the 2.9 actually make it feel perceptibly brisker than the 2.7 987.1?

WayOutWest said: Ooh, controversy, just when I'd settled on a 987.2 Cayman S as the one to get next. Does the extra 20bhp/20lb/ft of the 2.9 actually make it feel perceptibly brisker than the 2.7 987.1? The main update you'd probably notice between those models are the cabin changes, including updated PCM if it was optioned. As for the perceived difference between the 20bhp, not driven back-to-back so unsure. Think the main choice depends on the preferred transmission. The .1 has triptronic while the .2 is PDK.

Fiammetta said: Hmm , it’s the knock on effect of the crud leading to compromised injector tips and thus unburnt fuel, leading to loss of lubrication, leading to a substantial cause of “ bore scoring “ which is found in some 9A1 - 3,4 s . There’s many flavours of bore scoring , not just the cylinder material of the 987.1 / 996 s also the oil / lubrication is the other in the absence of Mickey mouse cylinder open deck castings . Why opt in to this rabbit hole ? Especially with unknown PO usage patterns .These cars are over a decade old now .New back in the day , sure but you were wearing different goggles surrounded by warranties back then .Now you are not . For what a 0. Something quicker to 60 FWIW ? Or bar talk etc ? Edited by Fiammetta on Thursday 17th August 15:12 That all sounds highly speculative to me. I had the injectors tested on that same car. They were all perfect at 60k miles and went back in. Bore scoring on the 9A1? Whatever. It happens, but it's super rare and not even remotely comparable to the epidemic levels on the 3.4+ M97 lumps. Hartech spent 18 months plus asking around for a borked 9A1 not long ago that they wanted for development work, they're that hard to come by. Moreover, Hartech does not link the very few cases of 9A1 scoring to DFI issues, they say it's to do with seizing / clearance during the warm up phase. And while no source of information is infallible, I'd need some convincing you have expertise they lack on the subject. Oh and you can get scoring at low miles on a 9a1, which can't be to do with crud build up. Of course, there are documented piston ring issues with the 2.9. So good luck being confident that engine is 100% the better bet. Personally, I'd rate all 987.2 lumps as both decently and similarly reliable and the suggestion that the 2.9 is materially more reliable bar the eventual and ultimately trivial need to clean the inlet on the DFI engine is misleading. If anything, I'd say the single biggest disadvantage in reliability terms of the DFI lumps is none of what has been mentioned but the high pressure fuel pump which is a little prone to failure and is a bit pricey and quite labour intensive to have fitted. Ask me how I know! But even then, the odds of having to do that more than once is awfully low and in total cost of ownership terms is inconsequential. The 2.9 versus 3.4 reliability thing on a gen 2 car is pretty moot, it's nothing like the large delta between the M97 generally and the 9A1 generally. Again, I'm not at all down on the 2.9, I just wouldn't buy it with materially superior reliability in mind, because you're not going to get it. Re the 0-60 thing, who cares. But you can. easily feel the increased torque and power in the 3.4. Whether you care about that is an entirely different matter. Edited by flat6crocer on Thursday 17th August 18:57

Well the one at Ashgood sold immediately There’s this private one which is almost identical but £2k more! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15475604

Don't think the 2.9 is bullet proof as it's not. My Boxster ended up making a horrible tapping sound. Timing chains and timing chain guides needed replacing. Engine out job - total bill was over £6k. The car had approx 50k miles and full service history - main dealer and specialist. Porsche make crappy engines.

Hippea said: Well the one at Ashgood sold immediately There’s this private one which is almost identical but £2k more! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15475604 That's an extremely nice spec for a 2.9. But yeah, not cheap for a private car with those miles.

Thoughts on this one https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402026...

Really good on paper. Love the colour and spec. Sounds like it's owned by someone who cares. Far from you presumably? Also, how much is the VED on this?

nickfrog said: Really good on paper. Love the colour and spec. Sounds like it's owned by someone who cares. Far from you presumably? Also, how much is the VED on this? Yeah couldn’t be further away, I’m on the south coast. Good excuse to take an excursion around Scotland after collecting though I suppose.

I don't want to hijack or take off topic but if you like modifying you will love the 2.9. I purchased mine 5 years ago with 7.5k miles on it. Now on 44k miles. Having had a 3.4 spyder prior. You will definitely notice its slower. However they have not only held it back engine mapping wise but chassis wise. The stock damping is pogo like below 30 mph like the spyder, but above 100 becomes a bit of a mess where the spyder locks down. A decent set of dampers / coilovers changes all. Also go with the spyder rear arb. Peanuts to buy and fit. Then the alignment and corner balance. The car turns in beautifully and as you can carry more speed the slower acceleration becomes less of an issue. Lastly a few cheap quick wins. The oem short shift kit, to enhance shift feeling Live remap with bmc filter to unlock the 20hp and lb ft still on the table if keeping stock exhaust system. Nice set of Michelin tyres. Xenon bulb conversion if it has candles from factory. I have no plans to sell mine. Last mods will probably be a nice stereo system and a set of recaro pole positions.

I’m eagerly reading this thread as I am also considering a 987 Cayman. I’m only interested in gen 2’s, and have been looking every day for the past few months. I currently drive an S2000 and am wondering whether a 987 is a big enough 'upgrade'. I drove a gen 1 Cayman S but was never going to buy it, I’m leaning towards a 2.9 as well.

The lovely thing about the 2.9 is its relatively low cost for an awesome all around package. It will need some minor mods to really make it gel together, but most of them are oem parts so not devaluing the car if you worry about that. This is why the 3.4 spyder and cayman r are so well regarded. They just feel perfect out of the box. Very easy to stick some of the parts from those across and get best of both worlds. Easy daily driver with more practicality but no less fun.

I saw a lovely aqua blue gen 2 Cayman S earlier today near where I live, aqua blue is the colour I really want!

Have owned a 2.9 gen 2 manual Boxster for 8 years now,no problems at all other than the usuals,AC condensers etc,independant specialist maintained,wonderful to drive,never going to sell it. 2.9 is the sweet one for sure!

Sounds good, I am a bit scared of the potential costs should something go wrong. That’s why I love my S2000, not as expensive in that department. However parts are getting expensive now, a new gear knob was £130!

Yes indeed you do, blimey that’s not cheap! My Honda is special to me, and I’m not sure the Cayman is worth the extra pennies, but we’ll see.

Yes indeed you do, blimey that’s not cheap! My Honda is special to me, and I’m not sure the Cayman is worth the extra pennies, but we’ll see.

Pazwan said: Sounds good, I am a bit scared of the potential costs should something go wrong. That’s why I love my S2000, not as expensive in that department. However parts are getting expensive now, a new gear knob was £130! I bought mine last year, and wonder if it was the one mentioned on here for sale last August as overpriced? The vendor did reduce the price though, and the spec was exactly what I was looking for - midnight blue metallic, PASM, PCM 3.0 with SatNav and CarPlay, full leather etc. No sunroof though I did go into it eyes wide open on Porsche pricing, but £300+ for a leather service book wallet (included!) and £4,000+ for the luggage set, which isn't even bespoke, was really taking the piss! Still, you only live once. Edited by CanAm on Tuesday 13th February 18:08

Surfr said: I'm in the market for a one of these. I'm swinging sligjtly towards the 2.9 for weekend Mid Wales B road blasts. It wont be a daily and I will add some mods over time. This seems too good to be true though https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17293224 The mileage is rather on the high side and the so-called "incredibly high-quality interior" is all plastic - no leather. There's little mention of the extras, but it doesn't seem to have PCM or PASM. But, it's a lovely looking car, especially the colour. If you can live with the spec and the mileage, bearing in mind it will be over 100k when (if!) you come to sell it, go for it! You'll love the handling, performance, comfort and luggage capacity (far bigger than any other similar sized 2 seaters).

Bit of a bargain really, the type of car you can just enjoy and not worry too much about resale value in the future.

I'm in the market for a one of these. I'm swinging slightly towards the 2.9 for weekend Mid Wales B road blasts. It wont be a daily and I will add some mods over time. This seems too good to be true though https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17293224 Edited by Surfr on Wednesday 11th September 13:29

It's very tempting. I'm also not dismissing a 2.7 Boxster either as it's a weekend car and I don't need to worry about the weather so much even if it does rain 99% of the time here in Wales. I enjoyed my MX5s in the past and a part of me would love to feel the wind on my bald head again.

CanAm said: Surfr said: I'm in the market for a one of these. I'm swinging sligjtly towards the 2.9 for weekend Mid Wales B road blasts. It wont be a daily and I will add some mods over time. This seems too good to be true though https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17293224 The mileage is rather on the high side and the so-called "incredibly high-quality interior" is all plastic - no leather. There's little mention of the extras, but it doesn't seem to have PCM or PASM. But, it's a lovely looking car, especially the colour. If you can live with the spec and the mileage, bearing in mind it will be over 100k when (if!) you come to sell it, go for it! You'll love the handling, performance, comfort and luggage capacity (far bigger than any other similar sized 2 seaters). If anything there is too much leather in that one. I like that it has an alcantara wheel upgrade - I had one in my 987.1 and it felt great. I also had the poverty spec alcantara seats and really liked them to the extent I preferred to leather. The only option I think I would really want is a sports exhaust. I'm not sure how many 2.9s would have been optioned with PSE, probably very few from the ads I've seen. As for the car in the ad, I like the painted centre tunnel, like a Cayman R for the stripped out look. Just a shame it is the same colour as my dad's Freelander. I think the 2.9 Cayman is the biggest bargain in terms of tin top porkers. Still some large variation in prices though. There used to be quite a price jump to the Gen 2 S, not sure if that is still the case.

WayOutWest said: If anything there is too much leather in that one. I like that it has an alcantara wheel upgrade - I had one in my 987.1 and it felt great. I also had the poverty spec alcantara seats and really liked them to the extent I preferred to leather. The only option I think I would really want is a sports exhaust. I'm not sure how many 2.9s would have been optioned with PSE, probably very few from the ads I've seen. As for the car in the ad, I like the painted centre tunnel, like a Cayman R for the stripped out look. Just a shame it is the same colour as my dad's Freelander. I think the 2.9 Cayman is the biggest bargain in terms of tin top porkers. Still some large variation in prices though. There used to be quite a price jump to the Gen 2 S, not sure if that is still the case. Too much leather? It’s got less than most, as it’s plastic dash

Surfr said: I'm in the market for a one of these. I'm swinging slightly towards the 2.9 for weekend Mid Wales B road blasts. It wont be a daily and I will add some mods over time. This seems too good to be true though https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17293224 Edited by Surfr on Wednesday 11th September 13:29 That looks nice although She has decreed "Thou Shalt Not Have A Red Car. Ever." So that's that. I'm irrationally sniffy about FMDSH in the early years too (God knows why but it's a thing I can't stop myself from looking at) so the fact it appears to have only seen an OPC once in it's life is a demerit to me. Totally irrational thinking on my part as it was out of warranty over a decade ago and the independents are probably likely to actually do a better job or at least do the same job at a more palatable rate.

Seen that advert last night and thought it was too good to be true even at the milage and from a dealer. The advert text is also pretentious waffle. Love the colour and much better than the monochrome 90% of them are painted. ETA on my phone the front bumper looks a different shade to the rest of the car. Edited by dai1983 on Thursday 12th September 12:48

The red cayman was already sold by the time I made contact. I’m focussing more on leggy 987.1 2.7 boxsters now

dai1983 said: Seen that advert last night and thought it was too good to be true even at the milage and from a dealer. The advert text is also pretentious waffle. Love the colour and much better than the monochrome 90% of them are painted. ETA on my phone the front bumper looks a different shade to the rest of the car. Edited by dai1983 on Thursday 12th September 12:48 Things are looking up. I checked the older cars for sale on PH when I was looking and 75% were monochrome. A quick check of 718s currently for sale shows that his figure has dropped to 62%.

After checking colours, I started looking at prices. There are two 2012 987.2, 2.9 PDK Caymans for sale. 92,000 miles at £16,250 (private sale Scotland with FSH) or 18,000 miles at £29,990 (dealer in Slough). Talk about mileage sensitive!

Whats your budget? Nice Gen 1 S here with an engine rebuild, i have enquired about this but the seller isnt 100% sure on the rebuild details but thinks its a full one. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202406200...