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YOUR RESEARCHPASM?!
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Equipment like PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes), PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) larger 19inch wheels and a Sports Chrono pack (which changes the engine management and PASM settings to more aggressive, track focussed settings) allows you to shave time of your lap time around the Nurburgring.
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) could Ijust replace the PASM with a set of PSS9's?
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Sell it to me guys one way or tother as I'm concerned the car may look too high on standard springs (looks more than 10mm from what I've seen) - it will cost me £500 to replace the springs to lower the car by 30-35mm and may cause me issue with grounding in any case.
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I could change the springs out after taking ownership but £500 with no choice of setup and warranty issues with non standard springs whether PASM or not won't help.
Set between sport and normal i would buy it..........oh wait
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If there was a PASM setting between Sport and Normal I would buy it..........oh wait, that's where the stock suspension already is!
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Equipment like PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes), PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) larger 19inch wheels and a Sports Chrono pack (which changes the engine management and PASM settings to more aggressive, track focussed settings) allows you to shave time of your lap time around the Nurburgring.
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Sell it to me guys one way or tother as I'm concerned the car may look too high on standard springs (looks more than 10mm from what I've seen) - it will cost me £500 to replace the springs to lower the car by 30-35mm and may cause me issue with grounding in any case.
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I could change the springs out after taking ownership but £500 with no choice of setup and warranty issues with non standard springs whether PASM or not won't help.
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Ok, dedicate a thread to this one as I'm having 50/50 doubts whether I should of specced this item.
It costs £1030 in the UK and amoungst other things lowers the car by 10mm and I can swear I can spot this on most pics whether the
Cayman
I'm looking at has it or not! My cars getting shod with 19's so does that favour this set up or not?
Sell it to me guys one way or tother as I'm concerned the car may look too high on standard springs (looks more than 10mm from what I've seen) - it will cost me £500 to replace the springs to lower the car by 30-35mm and may cause me issue with grounding in any case. Any help or advice much appreciated as I may have time to add it.
Cheers
Dean
Edited by - V6 TT on 10/03/2005 09:20:41 AM
Edited by - V6 TT on 10/03/2005 09:21:24 AM
With this option you always have thechoice of a more plush ride and a quite firm ride at your fingertips. As with the 997, I think it will be perfect here. I've driven some new Boxsters and think the same. Will the ride height be too high here in the US with PASM? Probably. -Pete
Dean
It seems to be quite a 'wanted' option. I remember Evo car Magazine did a test of a PASM porsche against one without and found the PASM reduced laptimes (think it was
Boxster S
with PASM ag 997 standard) by a worthwhile margin. I have chosen it as I quite like the idea of being able to choose 'soft' or 'hard' suspension depending on the conditions/ my mood !
Pete
...thanks guys for the responses. The thing is with my rejected options I've got just over £1000 back and am quite worried the car standard looks 'taller' than PASM equiped cars which does seem more than 10mm especially on the Red CaymanS SGO 170 on the beach pics. I could change the springs out after taking ownership but £500 with no choice of setup and warranty issues with non standard springs whether PASM or not won't help. Just how soft will it be in 'Normal' mode for everyday driving is the question?
I think most know how I feel here. Take a non-PASM
Boxster S
out (with both 18' and 19' inch wheels if possible)and see how you like both the ride and the handling. Now imagine a
Cayman S
which will be a little stiffer and a little more roll resistant across the board. If you think the ride is too stiff for everyday driving, or not stiff enough for your style of driving, then PASM might be for you. For me PASM in sport mode was too harsh for anything but the track or very smooth roads,and PASM in normal mode felt a little on the floaty side making it almost feel like it had shocks that were on their last leg. The stock suspension felt the best to me at all times and I didn't have to worry about what mode I was in. If there was a PASM setting between Sport and Normal I would buy it..........oh wait, that's where the stock suspension already is!
The ride height is another personal pref.....just as PASM is. Ithink a non PASM
Boxster
or
911
for that matter look just fine with stock ride height. PASM is a tasteful lowering, but anything lower starts to look a little silly to me......like the car hasa spring problem or something.
You will
not
need PASM to fully enjoy this car......period! Remember it was only one of the factors that made the Cayman 3 seconds faster at the 'Ring.......that's around a 1% (probably less) improvement in handling for $2k. You make the call.....
we have a 987S on hire at the moment that has no PASM, the 987 handles much better than our
986
, we did not spec PASM on our
Cayman
, we set a price ceiling & PASM would have taken us over this limit.
If you can afford it, then I would spec it, not only ride height it adjusts throttle etc
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Interesting quote from cars.msn.co.uk......'First Drive:
Porsche Cayman S
'......concerning some of the performance options....
<span class="text-articleparaPlain">In everyday driving it’s likely you’ll rarely need to do either. The
Cayman S
cornering flatly and efficiently, flattering any driver with its precision. Porsche knows its customers though, so as ever it offers them optional equipment to sharpen the
Cayman
’s dynamic experience even further. Equipment like PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes), PASM (Porsche Active Suspension Management) larger 19inch wheels and a Sports Chrono pack (which changes the engine management and PASM settings to more aggressive, track focussed settings) allows you to shave time of your lap time around the Nurburgring. However, driving the
Cayman S
with a variety of these different options highlights just how impressive the car is in standard guise.[/quote]
[/quote]
I'm considering not getting it and waiting for a good aftermarket sport suspension. With PASM out I wonder if Porsche will even offer a non electronic sport suspension package at all?
I am really worried about the replacement cost of PASM. Anyone knows what that is like? Also, if I decide to do a road rally like Targa Tasmania (
www.targa.org.au
) could Ijust replace the PASM with a set of PSS9's?
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I am really worried about the replacement cost of PASM. Anyone knows what that is like? Also, if I decide to do a road rally like Targa Tasmania (
www.targa.org.au
) could Ijust replace the PASM with a set of PSS9's?
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No, I think once you have PASM, you can't easily remove it, since the computer expects it to be connected, so you probably get an annoying error light on the dash. Just buy PSS9's from the beginning. I think they are only around $2k (same price as PASM) and Bilstein has a lifetime warranty and great performance.
Edited by - grant on 10/04/2005 2:23:00 PM
The Piston Heads road test was done on a none PASM car with 19" Carrera Classics and IMO this doesn't look too high at all.
See Here
Edited by - lukeo on 10/23/2005 2:55:28 PM
The Piston Heads road test was done on a none PASM car with 19" Carrera Classics and IMO this doesn't look too high at all.
http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests/porsche/CaymanS.htm
Edited by - lukeo on 10/23/2005 2:57:36 PM
I think the std suspension on my 987s on18's is too stiff for bumpy corners, so on 19's it would be even worse. So perhapspasm is the way to go but I would not want to be paying for active dampers outside of the warranty period.