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YOUR RESEARCHThe White Whale: my first Porsche
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The annoying little square connector can be installed 4 ways and I got it wrong...
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I was hoping to have my GT3 Coilovers done and installed before, but they just wrapped up.
Install bumper and its not perfectly centered in the cutout
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Installed the bumper and its not perfectly centered in the cutout, but I will live with that.
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Installed the first of my Black Friday purchases...
Adjust tierods again, drop car, settle car, re-measure
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Slap the camber setting all the way in, measure toe, lift car, shorten tierods, drop car, roll it back and forth a few times to settle, re-measure toe, lift car, adjust tierods again, drop car, settle car, re-measure.
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That's a little harder logistically and so when I noticed that there was a track day at Buttonwillow on their new track I figured I would check the calendar.
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I’m partial to Ohlins after how well they worked for me - I’d say for a socal ripper - Ohlins with a good corner-balance and suspension refresh, bucket seats, shifter, quick release wheel, GT3 master cylinder and brake ducts, good aggressive street pads and fluid and the thing will shred those sick roads and you’ll feel boss in the cockpit.
Hey Everyone, names Simon. Wont get into a long-winded back-story, lets get right to it.
I bought a '99 996.1. Car had a good PPI, plenty of records and the seller was a good, honest guy. Car itself has some suspension mods, and has already gotten an engine rebuild using LN Nickies and an overbore to 3.8L. I'm quite happy with it. Picked it up just went straight to Angeles Crest Highway. Have a few things planned for the short-term and a few things for the long-term. Anyways, on to the pics.
Pic from the post test drive. My daily cleverly hiding in the background haha
Posted this in another thread, but heres the spec sheet. Light on the options, but a good one on there (408).
Couldnt get the pic I hoped for because of the SoCal sun... but 99,996 haha
I was determined to drive the car enough to arrive home at 100k+, but also wanted to get a great first pic, from the first day
First "100 miles" impressions:
Things I like:
-3.8L motor pulls nice and sounds great, even with the stock mufflers
-Car feels 'good & tight'
-Wasnt sure how I'd feel about a 996, but I love it.
-Feels vintage enough, AND modern enough
Things I dont like:
-X51 deep sump scrapes my driveway, luckily theres a 'shield' on it, but I have to find a good solution
-Godspeed coils help the 'stance' but have their days numbered. Might wait until I know exactly what coilover setup I want. Heart wants Ohlins, but we'll see... maybe some KWs
-No Cupholder (LOL)
-Not a huge fan of the seats, but this is one of the first things Im swapping out, stay tuned for these.
White is a great color for this chassis and the blue stripe giving me RS vibes.
I’m partial to Ohlins after how well they worked for me - I’d say for a socal ripper - Ohlins with a good corner-balance and suspension refresh, bucket seats, shifter, quick release wheel, GT3 master cylinder and brake ducts, good aggressive street pads and fluid and the thing will shred those sick roads and you’ll feel boss in the cockpit.
Have fun with it bro.
PPI clear... full records... Nikasil bores... 3.8L. I'm sure the rebuilder addressed the IMS bearing too?
Wow! This is the kind of 996 people need to be hunting for.
Thanks, yea I also liked the RS style he did, but Im probably going to make some minor changes overall to the look.
The current plan is some Recaro reclining seats (need to be able to get a baby seat to take my little one with me to c&c events), 997 SSK to start but maybe Numeric later, GT3 Master cylinder and I actually already bought some brake ducts, though I think they are larger than the GT3 ones.
Suspension & brakes are going to be the main areas to focus on. I will dyno to see what the 3.8 makes.
Thanks, quite fond of the combo myself. BTW Interior is Metropol Blue also
Yessir, LN Engineering IMS Kit also.
Gorgeous. Love the lettering, Gulf decal and the tail. I also think the 996 look is aging very nicely. Normally I say, swap out the side markers for the clear ones, but they compliment the Gulf decal. Sweet.
Sounds like you have a good plan and a great foundation. Make sure you post your dyno numbers in the 996 HP thread when it comes off the rollers. [/size]
Looks perfect to me!
408's- nice.
My favorite shifter is the 997.2 GT3 shifter. When you get the super aggressive SSK's it's much easier to miss a shift, a lot will disagree with me but I've seen it happen several times at VIR with the CAI shifter.
--Aaron
Thanks guys.
It was tough to make the plunge, and Im letting go of a car thats very special to me to make this happen. Its going to a good home and while Im leaving some money on the table, its going to someone who wont be flipping it and I should have an opportunity later on to buy it back. Hopefully the stars align, but thats way down the road
From my annual 1/1 Drive. It was this day that the writing was on the wall that I was going to need a little more than this car could offer me.
Now, back to the 911... I have my first major change/ purchase happening this weekend. Its a set of Recaro seats. Probably spending a little more than I should on these, but its cheaper than GT3 seats, they both recline and I think the style will go perfect with what Im going for.
As for mounting, I think BreyKrause has the setup Im looking for. Open to opinions about this, but I dont think I have many options.
and finally, I've always been a big fan of build threads as Im from the generation where forums were THE place to share stuff, but I do have an IG and a small YouTube to just share various things.
If you're interested its @the_tuman_show but you'll get most of the same content here
Congrats on the 996 and love seeing those build/diary/whatever you wanna call it threads. Sounds like you scored a great example. I know many people find white cars boring but I love them. Look forward to seeing the progress.
That Alfa is beautiful and certainly a very different driving experience. My good friend has a fully rebuilt step-nose to replicate the Alfaholics cars with a revvy 1.3L motor and a spare 2.0L one. There's also a gentleman with a California GTV in same color like yours he recently purchased but a total sleeper with a V6 Buso motor shoved into it.
Awesome purchase!
I've got the KW coilovers and like them!
Nice to see another 3.8 on here. Let me know what numbers you make, and if it's running any additional software, or just the stock ECU...
I trust BK with the seat mounting in my car and have had a couple sets of mounts, everything I have had from them has been very nice.
I'm **** about safety stuff like seat mounts if it makes a difference.
This past Friday I had the day off because my brother was supposed to come to town for the weekend. He bailed, but I still attended all my car related events.
-Fueling up at the Shell thats at the Angeles Crest base.
-Good Vibes Breakfast Club, alternate location. Attendance was light because of the NorCal Luft event and all that stuff
-Saturday, my Alfa came home from the passenger side rocker repair. Just a few steps left before it goes away... It took a lot of work to move stuff around to make it all fit. Doesnt look that way, but its pretty tight inside
-Sunday was the monthly Los Angeles Cars & Coffee. My kiddo was awake early so I took her with me. She got to see cars, some random person saw her and gave her a Hot Wheels of the OG Batmobile and then later we played in Griffith Park. Win! Even though this isn't the seat I bought for the car, it works for now. Cant wait to swap out all the seats.
Speaking of seats, I also picked up the Recaro SR2's on Saturday and ordered the BreyKrause Mounts with the Recaro Sliders today. I have Thursday off, so I might begin the swap, but the garage is already tight. We'll see if I can make it work... I want to so the will is there, just have to find a way. Thats assuming the parts arrive in time
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Was a stock rebuild but used larger JE Pistons with LN Engineering Nickies. These are the only pics I have from the PO regarding that part. The only other modification on the motor is an IPD plenum. I plan to add a BMC Filter, the cool intake hose which makes more noise.... and then something with exhaust. I have muffler deletes, but not sure I want to install them
I will be dynoing the car soon to see what she makes
Curious to hear what kind of power it makes!
I was tempted by muffler deletes but they are LOUD. For my stock 3.4 I don't want it to sound faster than it is
Yeah, I’m not sure I’ll ever run them. I have an idea floating around my brain, but for now there are other fish to fry.
one of those is revolving the interior. I had planned to remove the rear seats and with the new baby seat arriving combined with a day off from work I got uninterrupted garage time. Had the rear seats removed in under 10 minutes, it’s hilariously simple.
Then it was time to install the rear seat, I liked this one of the current crop of seats that seem to work in the 996.
It wasn’t sitting as deep or tight as I wanted, likely because the seats were gone, so I took this little chunk out which didn’t affect anything on the seat but really let the seat sit deeper and back up against the rear panel
I was hoping to see the perforation in the carpet that I saw mentioned because I really want to use the top tether, but worried this is just one more of the differences of the 99 vs the later 996s. Took this hoping someone sees what I didn’t.
A later change will be this 997 shifter that was gifted to me. I LOVED the Numeric shifter in the Targa I drove, which is where this came from. Seems like the choice between the two is a personal preference so I’ll try this and see if it’s good enough
Looks really fun, congrats to you! Also a fan of the ducktail and white is a rare color.
If you�re in LA you know it�s a PITA to drive a really low car. My 99 was very low when I bought it and I spent about $600 at Callas Rennsport down in Torrance to raise it to the �Euro Low� height which is basically what the .1 GT3 came with out of the factory. Also corner balanced it with me in the car to set it to my exact spec.
Made a huge difference in the daily drivability of the car in LA. May be worth considering if you�re struggling with how low it is.
I got there at 7:45 and the upper area was already full... I even had asked my friend to save me a spot but he still let someone take the spot...
Was yours the gray 996? There was one that pulled in not too far behind me. Didnt see the owner
As for the suspension, I think its just the low-quality Godspeed coilovers that are the problem. Im taking the car to the Targa805 rally this weekend so I will make adjustments to the "40-way" adjustable coilovers and see if that helps with the rebound at all. I'll likely be replacing these but not until after I do a few other suspension related changes first.
Cant wait to get my Recaros installed though, parts should arrive in the next week and I will get started. I think I might have an issue with the seat belt buckle. I knew the BK rails didnt have the provision, but saw that there are special Recaro sliders that have the provision and Im not sure mine are the "special" Recaro sliders. I also think $100+ for the bracket from BK is stupid. I will visit Home Depot Racing if I have to but I might have a solution already... if it comes to that.
Excited for this weekend! Should be adding another 500+ miles this weekend. Might hit 101k by the time I get home
No, I went in my friends 72 Orange corvette parked on the back rail. We got there at 7am, and it was partially full. In about 10 mins it was packed. There were a couple VW guys blocking spaces for their "friends". They were getting in peoples faces who were trying to park there. They held the spots for 40 mins, and eventually one of the guys parked his beetle diagonally to keep the second spot. Those guys were total jerks and gives the whole scene a bad vibe.
The Bilsteins werent on my radar, I have Ohlins & KWs as the go-to, not sure why I've ignored the Bilsteins. I know the Factory 996-GT3 coilovers are Bilsteins.
How many miles do you have on your and how would you rate it?
Congratulations on the purchase of your beautiful 996. I love the ducktail and the graphics. I am also a fellow Alfa fan...I had four GTVs over the years.
I have the PSS9s on my 99 996. I have had them for over 30k miles and almost 20 years. I can't say enough good things about them. My three kids grew up riding in the back of our 996. Getting to have them join you on car adventures is priceless.
I've now got 1000+ miles on it now as I took it on the Targa 805 rally this last weekend. 200 miles zig-zag-ing across Central Coast CA scenery
Got to drive this other thing, it was my accidental BaT win that I spent a bunch of money and sold before even taking possession of. Sold it to a good friend so its in good hands now
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What a great find. I'm curious to know how much this was listed for, I probably would have offered all of the monies. would like to see some more photos of the ducktail. Who makes it, fit quality, etc.
Enjoy!.
Thanks Tom. Lets just say the price was listed as "overpriced" when I found it according to the website, but I knew the value and his price was firm. I didnt hesitate to give him his asking once the PPI checked out
The ducktail, like most FG parts required some 'finishing work' to get fitment good. I will get some more pics. I want to add some mesh to the inlet. That will require removal which will give me an opportunity to weigh it and compare it with the standard tail.
My goal is to get this car down to 2750# without anything major, and a wishful-thinking of 275whp with no mods other than the current 3.8L and IPD plenum setup
I have a 2400 lb e36 M3 race car with 260 whp, and it�s a blast to drive, but it is absolutely gutted. Having that power to weight ratio with a full interior and modern conveniences like windows would be perfect.
I�m also embarking on a lightweight 996 project with this car, and would like to compare notes.
Definitely! My goal has always been to have a true 'dual purpose' car that can be driven to the track, tracked all day and then driven home. Without arriving home deaf and needing a chiro appt. The closest I got was an E30 with an aluminum block M52 that made 225whp and weighed 2350. No A/C though.
This has to do all of that, and also take my kiddo to C&C events...
So here's what I teased in another thread and and I'm not even halfway done.
The seats are not totally asymmetrical as they have the seatback adjustment on one side. I wasn't sure which side I wanted it on, but quickly found out that the adjustment on the inside will not work. They also sit quite low, and though I had the option for some 'boosted' rails I think the ~3" they would've boost me up is actually too much. I think 1" is the number, but thats part of the fun waiting for me...
Anyways, I was able to take the stock pass seat out, remove the seat belt buckle and get a back to back weigh-in VS the assembled Recaro setup.
I also confirmed that the Recaro sliders I have do not have the seat belt buckle slot shown in
this
thread. I will have to figure out the buckle situation in conjunction with the height... Part of the fun!...
Also removed the rear seats so I have a ballpark figure of ~75-80# reduced just from the seats. Here is the complete setup wrapped up and thrown into the corner of the garage, never to be seen again LOL
I was tempted to get a single GT3 bucket, but just the one seat was going to be more than both of these Recaros, sliders and rails (and a Momo hub too haha)
Do you have a thread for yours for me to follow along? What are your goals? Have you seen the "CLR" 996 that the guy got quite light? Im not going to his extremes
No thread yet, but I will be soon hopefully. I suppose there are some weight savings with my latest mod since it is missing the center radiator covering and the tow hook plug
Recaro install is complete and totally worth it and a HUGE improvement over the stock 'comfort' seats.
Summarizing it all in a little video, but heres the jist of the cause of the delay on installing
Made a little video on my little Youtube
You Tube
The OEM stereo has been quite disappointing but I wanted to retain as much of an OEM look so when I discovered
this
video by �The Throttle Cable.� I have a few of his videos saved, and this one was great.
Here is the collection of audio equipment
Quite a difference between the old and the new.
That said, these are still just 4� speakers so I wasn�t expecting a world of a difference but overall I�m much happier with the audio. Goal was to get it done before heading to the Cars & Coffee at Porsche of Santa Clarita. It�s a bit of a drive so having the improved audio was the goal and I�m glad I did it. That said, I went out this morning and the c&c was cool, the dealership is amazing with its gems hiding downstairs
I�ve also parts have been ordered from Pelican, so stay tuned for that update because it will be quite boring
@IamVee
Thanks I hope she does too. I’ve always been nervous about owning one but I did about as much due diligence prior to...
I use autotempest and spend time on forums. Bring a Trailer is nice but I suggest getting the car as best you can prior to buying anything. I got lucky and found this in Monrovia so I got to see it, drive it in addition to the PPI stuff.
Wow those old speakers were spent! I wish I could just put black seats in my car, kinda jealous of that. They look like a nice road seat, not too track focused like so many of them are. Nice choice.
@wdb
Yeah, I plan to take the car to the track, but it’s not a track car and I wanted something reclining so I could get my kiddo in the back. These seats are great.
Boring Update #1
I changed the air filter with a GENUINE PORSCHE piece
I wasnt sure how old the current one, and it was a good looking Mahle (or was it Meyle?), so I just put it in the box and threw it in the box of old parts. Speaking of old parts, I snapped some pics of the Bilsteins that were on the car previously as I'm looking to sell those off. Between the Bilsteins & the current coilovers I might have half the money towards the good coilovers I actually want, but more importantly less crap in my garage.
Nothing too exciting this weekend to update, but my brother was in town and he drove up in his 987.2 Boxster S. I've driven his car before, but he hadnt driven mine so he asked to swap when we were on our way to the PEC-LA 'Morning Shift' We arrived
only
30 minutes before it officially began so we were at the end of a very long line of Porsches and didnt even make it into the lot. This is the kind of stuff that annoys me about cars & coffee events, especially ones that involve Porsches. Ultimately I left and didnt even go inside...
Anyways, I snapped a few rollers from her "good side" lol
From there though I went to church and afterwards was greeted with a nice cloud of smoke upon startup. Immediately thoughts of M96 explosions began running through my head.... five figure engine rebuilds... cursing out the shop that did the PPI, etc... Then I remembered theres a search function here and I coudl see what others have experienced when this happens. Then the lightbulb in my brain illuminated. I've done mostly canyon runs with this car....sooooo you guessed it, an Ultimate AOS has just risen to the top of the list of 'mods'
Crisis averted.
And this is important, because I am loving this car, my kid is loving this car and I really dont want to look elsewhere so soon. I saw it mentioned in another thread, but this is one of the great things about having a car thats nearly 25 years old. Most of the issues have been discovered, and sorted by either the factory or the aftermarket.
One final thing. After driving the 987.2 and my 996 It also made me want to get the 997 shifter install soon. I already have it, and am not really worried to install it. I just want to be prepared. Is there anything I should anticipate for the install? I dont want to change any cables or anything else at this time so this tells me I can get it done quickly. Am I being naive?
Thanks in advance!
For the shifter swap, my advice would be to remove the lower center console where the storage bin is. It will make it easier to maneuver the rear section over the shifter without damaging the handbrake leather/vinyl covering.
I thought I would need to remove the entire center console, so thats good news as its less stuff that needs to come out!
Im thinking about adding phenix bushings now, but not sure if thats something I should skip for now as the plastic bushings feel nice.
Sorry, you technically only need to remove the long section which houses the shifter, handbrake, and storage bin. If you remove the front console, the section below the dashboard, then it will be easier to maneuver the long piece without damaging anything.
I feel duty bound to make the following observations.
ALL our actions can and frequently do have consequences, so when I see what can only be described as "amateurishly bodged" seat mounts and seat belt brackets and fastenings such as these, it concerns me deeply :
Comments such as “I used aluminium section for the seat mounts because it was lighter", and I elected to fabricate my own seat belt bracket because I didn't consider a professionally made item to be worth $100 ?? just don’t cut it, especially when you decide to release a video into the public domain detailing the process. And whilst the OP may consider his video “a bit of fun” and excuse his lack of engineering knowledge as “a differing sense of humour” between two parties. I don’t.
In the event the worst were to happen on a canyon run, and the OP rounded a bend to find a DUI driver on his side of the road, and as a result he took evasive action but ended up going off the road doing so, and ended up rolling/sliding the car down an embankment and into a tree, his chosen design of Recaro seat won't provide support for his hips, torso etc in a side impact, as it would in a bucket seat such as those fitted to the 996 GT3.
Instead the seat belt and it's brackets/fastenings will take the majority of the force involved in retaining the body mass. Whilst he states he used proper seat belt mounting fasteners that were
at least
Grade 8.8, I suspect he's not used a high carbon steel at least 3.5 - 4mm thick, for the seat belt stalk bracket nor had it water jet or laser cut and folded by someone who knew what they were doing. Nor has he had a captive nut welded to the back of the bracket.
Instead he's produced what looks to be a poorly drilled, wobbly, misshapen hole which leaves excess material one side and a lack of material the other side, all in a material of which he doesn't know the specification.
Having gone off the road, and hit a tree, his 200lb body mass has effectively been multiplied by 5 or 6, and that force is going to be transferred to the poorly crafted seat belt stalk bracket and fasteners. Come the moment of truth, the 1200lb force overwhelms the material at the point adjacent to the bolt securing the stalk, leaving him unsecured inside the cabin. Regrettably he’s cannoned to the other side of the car, whereby he heavily impacts the tree. He doesn’t survive the impact.
Can you imagine his nearest and dearest’s thoughts when the accident investigator announces at the coroner's hearing that he perished because the seat belt bracket had failed, and it looked to all intents and purposes to have been a homemade item that appeared to have been made by someone who had little in the way of engineering skills ?
But worse still, that numerous companies make properly fabricated brackets for this very application, from certified materials which are designed by certified engineers who've studied engineering and thus understand the forces such components can be expected to have to withstand in extremis. And all for less than $40 a
pair
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I have a friend who produces automotive seats in the UK, (they're also available and highly regarded in the US) they're used in top flight motorsport and in road cars too. I know that as much thought goes into the design/manufacture of the seat mounts, brackets, and seat belt mounting points/fasteners as the seat themselves. And with good reason.
Manufacturers invest millions of dollars ensuring your safety in the event of a crash, and yet for some strange reason you (and plenty of others) think that fitting an aftermarket seat is something you can do on the cheap using materials totally unsuited for the purpose.
NOTE. The above post has been heavily edited at the OP’s behest.
In an attempt to illustrate the simply massive forces and amounts of energy involved in a high speed impact between our cars and a solid object, and to justify the reasons for my critical comments in this thread on his seat/belt install, I posted what the OP scathingly refers to as a "novel", along with many graphic images of what those forces can and will do to the vehicle's structure. The OP has taken offence at both my "novel" and the images I posted within my text. Both have now been removed. However the jist of the post still stands :
Posting about the installation of safety critical components on here and on YouTube, brings with it responsibilities. His seat/belt install is poorly thought out and ultimately, in the event of a high speed accident, most likely to prove injurious or worse still, fatal.
On the basis that others watching his YouTube video may think his method of mounting the seats/seat belts acceptable or indeed safe, I’m requesting he remove his video both from this thread and YouTube itself to avoid others being injured in the event of an accident having used his method of installation.
Failing that, he should at the
very
least edit his video and his post on here, to include a caveat and disclaimer stating that he has no engineering qualifications and that others should not copy any of the solutions he’s applied to his seats/seat belt mountings, because to do so may compromise their safety or that of their passengers.
Having experienced a high speed accident in a 996 I have first hand experience of the massive forces and energy dissipation involved. A poorly conceived/dangerous seat installation such as the OP’s, would have most likely meant I’d have suffered injuries far, far worse than those I did.
On that basis, he has a responsibility to make anyone viewing his video aware that he’s not qualified to engineer a safe, reliable seat or seat belt install, and having agreed to his PM request to edit my post heavily, I expect the OP to do the right thing and comply with my request also.
Ok, where to start...
I will start by saying that I'm glad to hear you have survived that accident. I would not want to go through that scenario personally, but I know that as enthusiasts who like to enjoy our cars that these things can happen.
You begin by saying you're not trying to criticize or offend, but a lot of what follows was both offensive, very critical and often condescending, but you're free to do so, this is a public forum. I will try to remain level headed and open-minded, but you certainly are "coming at me"... You can also 'change the channel' nobody is forcing you to watch my 'amateur' work here.
Anyways, lets discuss the two items you have issues with and lets see what is a solution rather than just being critical. I prefer to search for solutions than argue. I'm not an engineer. In fact I'm a drop-out ME student who has a business degree. I don't pretend to be one.
Your critique of my seatbelt mount is full of assumptions on both what I've used and what others sell. I used steel, a fair thickness, one piece. 3 drilled holes. Both the BK and the linked VAC one appear to be the same. Steel, thick, drilled holes. Everything else you mentioned is an assumption. Im confident in the metal used, and also the hardware used. My hardware is used parts from cars I've parted out, so these are OEM grade materials, mostly german cars too. Not chinesium as you assumed. Im confident in the seat-belt buckle and am fine not spending $200+ on two similarly shaped bent pieces of metal. The VAC pair at $40 is a different story. Compelling enough to consider. Just might... but we'll see as theres no way to know for sure if they will work. Theres also no way to really determine if they are better until it hits the fan.
The spacing up of the seat is one Im very willing to listen to constructive suggestions. I needed ~1" of height. I felt the combination of the square stock combined with the solid spacer was more than adequate for reasons I cannot explain in proper terms. It wasnt my first option, I had several ideas I went through before settling on what I've shared. It doesnt need to be the final option, but will only be changed when an appropriate solution is presented. My goal was to get the spacer to fill up the entire channel that the bolt went through, but with a small gap, a washer was added (if needed) to fill the void so there would be no play. Its effectively solid through the channel that the bolt passes through.
I was merely pointing out I have experience with many seat installations and also have first hand experience of a high speed crash in a similar car. If you choose to take my comments as me being overly critical, condescending or indeed “coming at you” as you put it, I'd suggest that’s you deciding to take offence, rather than me being deliberately offensive.
You've stated in your PM that "you're a big boy", if that's the case, I'd suggest you act like one and take the necessary responsibility for making public a seat/belt install that's at best is questionable, and at worst downright reckless and dangerous.
I'd genuinely hoped you'd see the situation from my perspective ie someone who has an insight as to what the consequences of a poorly designed seat/seatbelt installation could be. As a fellow enthusiast the last thing I want to see is someone indulging their passion, but taking what I consider to be a fundamentally flawed strategy when it comes to something as safety critical as a seat/belt install. That you've elected to place your dubious engineering talents in the public domain, quite frankly beggars belief.
As for watching your other videos to "gain a better understanding of your sense of humour", I had already watched your 997 shifter install video, and it's was watching that video that prompted Google's analytics to recommend I watch your seat install video. Having watched your shifter install video and been left somewhat bemused by the lack of continuity, missing content and questionable/non-existent editing, I figured your seat/belt install video could only be an improvement.
I've voiced my concerns, something I'm entitled to do on a public forum. I have nothing further to say on the matter, and won't be responding to any further PM's/comments from you on this subject.
I wish you well in all your endeavours with your car.
Took the car to Malibu this weekend.
I just ordered an Ultimate AOS and took the suggestion from pistol pete to buy the upgraded upper hose. Hoping to get it all done during a very busy July. Also have some other things I will be looking into
I'm ordering an UAOS but I'm in the dark re the upgraded upper hose, do you have a part number to share? I'm getting ready to retire to rural NS, and as the nearest Porsche specialist is in Halifax I'm doing all I can that is specialist mechanic stuff. TIA
@2mAn
I actually didn�t know about it either but after reading a lovely detailed write up by
@plpete84
i reached out to him to ask how it had been since it had now been a few years. He mentioned that Skip has an upgraded upper hose.
After reaching out to Skip here�s what he told me about them: �
The factory one runs through the intake and some people replace that also when doing an AOS replacement.. I make an upgraded one that goes around the back of the intake that is aluminum and steel..LN doesn't have that yet..it is something new and I only have a few of them..�
Yup - when I installed my UAOS I got rid of the coolant line that runs to it. It connects to that plastic junction near the alternator (I think) and likes to snap. There is a aluminum upgrade part but why not just get rid of it all together. Less hoses and eliminating a potential leak.
From my most recent trip to Good Vibes Breakfast Club on Angeles Crest
The UAOS arrived, but theres been a delay in the hose. I will probably enjoy the car this weekend and start tearing it apart to get this done. Should also have the results from my Blackstone Labs analysis soon too. They were about 8 business days out when I spoke to them last week
Took the car out this past weekend and realized just how dirty it was. Found a nice spot to detail and wax it. Not the big solution I want, but a good temp solution until I can get it ceramic coated...
Also got the results of the initial Blackstone Labs analysis. Seems like a good starting point
Love the stance, did you change out the suspension? I was up there with neighbor past 2 Friday's, but always get there way too late and so party of two
I'm about to do my water pump and wondering if should do UAOS at the same time- just concerned about trying to take on too many things at once.
Thanks! Previous owner lowered the car using Godspeed coilovers. Initially I hated them.. for now I'm content. I dialed back the dampening and its been better, but the skidplate will still scrape if the road/ angle of approach is bad enough. Other than that he also added some spacers. Looks good, but eventually I want to add some good coilovers.
Replacing the AOS doesn't seem to be a quick or easy job and I would only do it if driving canyons is the primary use. I would see how much stuff is coming out for the water pump job because it might make sense while you're in there
I went OEM with the suspension refresh and the front sits quite high. I would like to lower it a bit but not THAT much as it's rough or scraping the ground.
I am five minutes from Angeles crest so I drive that once or twice a week. So primary use now is canyons. I'm hoping the new water pump, especially the coolant flush, will help keep operating temperature is a bit lower especially on these super hot days. also got the lower temp thermostat from LN.
�Fun� Update:
Finally had a few minutes last night to sneak into the garage to see if I could discover what gave me the heebeejeebees last weekend on my weekly Malibu canyon run. The car cut out for just a second and my diagnosis on my way home was a loose ground somewhere. So now with the booty off the ground I was poking around looking for something. Factory ground cable was good and tight so the search continued. Eventually I spotted it tucked on the passenger side. No idea what this is a ground for, but there�s (I believe) 3 grounds here. One looks like it had already broken in the past and was butt-clamped together and everything got wrapped in electrical tape. It was quite crusty so this isn�t a new repair.
After unwrapping I found a broken brown wire , and our likely culprit. Not sure what this is a ground for, but it�s there for a reason. It�s also in a horrible spot so the repair won�t be fun. �Luckily� I still have some �fun� work ahead of me in replacing the AOS with the UAOS... might just hand this fun job to someone else and deal with the �fun� bill that awaits me...
In actual fun news, while I was down there I discovered why my exhaust seems to sound quite good. Looks like a gondo hack was done by a previous owner. Might help resale value when I pull these off lol
Cars been parked since I discovered the broken wire, as I knew that was going to be a bad situation waiting to happen if I attempted to drive anywhere. Even though its available online, I enjoy having physical books, so I was happy to buy this at the Werks Reunion... and with my Alfa officially sold and in its new home it was time to get to work
Didnt need to, but I took the duckbill off just to get some more lighting. Got a good start and stopped at Step 11 when the book said "This is where the job gets serious" or something to that effect...
I registered to take the car to the Porsche Experience LA where I can drive this on their track. Really excited for that, hoping to get some good instruction from their drivers. After that its time to hit the other tracks. Goal is to finally drive Laguna Seca next year.
Nice, thanks for the update! I've used my copy of the pelican book several times. When things get more tech, there's also the Bentley guide. I'm no mechanic but that book has helped, and it's neat to read and learn. And pretend that I could actually take action rather than reading theory haha.
Thanks, also a frustrating fact is that I tried to send this to a shop and both BBI & Vision would not take on the job or were requiring the engine be dropped in order to do it. Those are the most reputable Porsche shops I know in LA... my trusty BMW-centric shop does do work on Porsches was willing to take it on as an hourly rate job... who knows they might end up cleaning up my mess if Im getting close to the 9/28 (PECLA Track Day), but for now its me in my garage doing it.
Mini Update:
I got 5 of the 6 intake manifold bolts out, along with a whole host of other things in the way. Need to get a stubby 3/8" drive, only have a 1/4" and that isnt going to cut it. The 99 has hex head and I definitely do not want to strip anything. So it waits.. until next weekend.
Meanwhile, I figured since I had the duckTAIL off and a few minutes I could answer another question I have had on my mind.
Stock Decklid
DuckTAIL
I'm calling it a 15# savings because of the fan, which brings my estimated weight reduction down to 95# (15#-duckTAIL, 60#- Recaros, 20#-Rear Seat Delete). I still have a few more things planned, but I think I'm going to fall a little short of my goal of 150# of easy weight loss. Maybe I should lose another 15# myself LOL
Finally had time and went out and got the stubby (actually bought a set of them from HF... $10 lol)
Going in blind, but I've had to do this once or twice before
Close-up
And the trash that came out... a few coolant lines and a toasted AOS
Coolant lines capped.
Just need to reinstall now... one of these days! Wife is taking the kiddo for the day this Saturday so I hope to have most of this wrapped up. Fingers crossed because after this the next few weekends are booked with out of town events. I still have the ground-wire repair left as well so I have to make the most of this Saturday
One week later update.
I went through all the stages of grief this weekend. Started by denial that I was going to have to drain the coolant to get this other end of the AOS Crossover pipe out. Once I saw that the wires that I also needed to replace were behind this, it was obvious I was going to have to drain the coolant and remove this hose.
Here you can barely make out the brown wire that was part of the other issue I have to deal with...
Lots of access to work...
/sarcasm
A small dose of acceptance as taking the hose off and draining the coolant revealed easy access to the wires and, though minute, access to the bolt that holds the AOS hose and breather to the block. Pic below shows the "repair" that someone did a long time ago ... and the other 2 wires that will need a repair also. I'm removing all of these brittle wires and doing it right.
That out of the way gave me motivation to get the new metal pipe from
@Porschetech3
installed prior to the long Saturday ahead. However, I now moved on to anger as I fought and fought with the pipe to get it in the OEM location. Bargaining happened, but proved fruitless as anger returned. Turns out the pipe is installed in a totally different way than the OEM one its replacing... depression as I now have to fight it to get it back out. That was how I was going to start Saturday, my one "full" day that I would get to work on the car without much interruption.
Saturday begins with the update from Skip that I was doing it all wrong. When I finally got started anger returned and luckily the only destruction was a few scratches on the pipes finish and one clamp that came off and was going back on. 'fixed'
This is where the pipe is supposed to run FYI, all the way against the 'front' of the engine bay
With the pipe finally in the right place, I started making actual progress. That means no pics. I got the AOS installed and hooked up, with relative ease. Getting the intake manifold back on was a fun challenge of trail and error. It took several attempts to get the bitch-bolt back on, I dropped it a few times and had to go on fishing expeditions to get the bolt back from the depths of the abyss. I also had to remove the intake a few times because of the routing of the AOS hoses and things that were supposed to go over the top of the intake, not underneath. Eventually the intake manifold was on, rear intake pipe was on and I was spent. A full day, but the finish line is in sight. I made a list to organize my thoughts and try to make sure I use the limited remaining time wisely.
Last night I had a small window to go out and the goal was to get the IPD Plenum installed and it actually wasn't too bad. Not easy, but also not as much fighting or cursing as I was prepared for. However, after it was all buttoned up I realized that the throttle cable was supposed to go over the top (recurring theme, amirite?). I wasn't about to pull the parts off, so I had to get creative. The solution was a LOT of zip ties with a socket on the end. Think of it as a fishing line with the socket as the bait.
The idea was to use the line of zipties to go over the top of the pipes and pull the cable back, up and over. Without the right tools for this, my improvised fishing line, coupled with an extended magnet did the job.
I was very proud of myself and happy... until I realized I also forgot to hook up a vacuum line... I've got about 16 days, but no free weekends to meet the 9/28 deadline.
Fingers crossed
Your doing awesome and keeping a sense of humor, congratulations. Your update makes me doubly grateful that I had access to an experienced Indy who installed the UAOS and Skips upgraded hose for me. That said, you should be proud of taking this on. I'm impressed and you're motivating me to do more wrenching. I have to, there's no one here in rural NS to help me anyway. Thanks for your update! Keep fighting the good fight mate.
Progress!
A buddy was able to make a housecall for me while I was out of town and deal with this little issue that I didnt want to haha
More trash... crusty wires joining the AOS and deleted coolant lines
Almost done...
I took the coolant reservoir out earlier in the process to give myself some more room, buuuuuut didn't reinstall it in the order I took it out. Obviously with the intake manifold in, I had a LOT less room to get it in. I used my Dad-Muscle to get it in. There was only one small casualty: the fuel (return?) line. NBD right?... I tried for a minute and decided I'm better off checking all of the other work off the list and I could come back around. Buttoned up everything else, torqued up the engine mounts, installed the skidplate, installed the wheels, duckTAIL, etc. Coolant is in, with the vent opened up. Leaving town tonight for the weekend, but thinking I need to get the car to someone to make sure its properly bled, give it a once over and deal with that fuel line.
Really trying to avoid getting someone else involved but the car technically does need to get teched by a shop before PEC-LA will let me play on their playground
Eventful evening after being gone for the weekend.
Step 1 was dealing with the Fuel Return Line.
Previously had tried the "Biggie squeeze it to make **** fit" method and was unsuccessful. No more joking around if I actually want to be at the event on Thursday (which is non-refundable at this point)
Luckily Skip (
@Porschetech3
) is a peach and explained again this method of creating a jig to myself and my buddy. It still didn't make sense to this idiot, but my friend understood and we got to work creating the jig using stuff I had laying around the garage.
Its working!
With that done, we buttoned it up, and moved on to Step 2. Vacuum bleeding the system. My friend had a nice Snap-On tool to handle this. No pics of that, but with that done we wrapped up everything and went to fire it up.
But nothing. Checked the battery and it was showing 12+ Volts. But nothing.
A frantic call again to Skip and we were discussing what it could've been. The car was reacting as it there was no power at all. Discussions of ignition switches, 80A Grounds, etc were mentioned but I knew it was something stupid. But what!?... My buddy had an idea and figured it out quickly.
Remember that ground issue from much earlier? From the last time I drove it? ... Well, I thought it was the 3 ground wires to the fuel injectors, but boy was I wrong....
New ground strap and a battery tie down (that was MIA) should have me fired up tonight and driving it tomorrow. 1 day before the PEC event .
Huge thanks to Skip and my buddy Omar... and Kevan. So grateful for an awesome community of car enthusiasts.
Good job on the fuel line jig/press . That hack has been used by quite a few Rennlisters in the last decade to repair the fuel line in a pinch, I designed/used that on my 99 over a decade ago and still going strong..
Pass it along on to others when you see them in need, that's what we are here for...
Have fun on the Track, keep the rubber side down...
Thought I was out of the storm! Pelican Parts had ONE ground cable left in stock and I had just enough time to pick up my kid and head straight out there to pick it up.
Success!
or so I thought... Car immediately came to life with the new ground cable, but so did the hesitation and stumbling. Got some codes and it looks like I have a vacuum leak.
T-Minus 30 hours...
That's my thought too. Mine has an IPD Plenum which was a pain, but all things considered I havent lost all hope haha
Probably have a long-ish night ahead of me, but Im going to give myself until 2pm tomorrow before I throw in the towel.
Is there anything specifically I need to know? I remember seeing arrows on the boot but had no idea what they corresponded to or which direction is should be pointing to
I always confirm the back side of those boots with an endoscope or mirror. They can look perfect from the front and be 50% off in the back. U can also drop the motor down a little to get your hand in there. Just loosen the motor mount bolts
No quiters here, get it done and go to the track.
100%
Where did we leave off? ... Vacuum leak and a ton of codes.
Step 1 was to pull off the airbox and grab the mini mirror to see if I could find anything on the crossover pipes. Luckily it didnt take long to see it. I took a pic so you could see it too...
Could it be an easy repair for once? with less than 24 hours to go?...
Yup! That was it. My first real drive was riddled with traffic as I used the smooth running idle as an excuse to drive the ~5 miles round trip to pick up my daughter from Daycare. She gets more excited to see the Porsche than my wife does haha
So the next day was at the PEC.
All smiles
My buddy joined me and took some pics. I have some more on the way. Next post will have em
Action shots!
Car did mostly wonderful, I was having a good time pushing it for the full session. However, it wasnt totally flawless. I had a code for P1397, Camshaft Position Sensor 2. Car wasnt running odd so I ignored it. After the session I checked the codes again, especially since there was a random idle surge that came and went. P1514 Idle Air Control Valve Opening & P1551 Idle Air Control Valve Closing. Sounds like I need to pull the Idle Control Valve and clean it out, but not sure what to do about the Camshaft Position Sensor.
Check the cps connector and the ground point. Its drivers side, firewall side of the head. It has a few brown wires to the bolt and u can see it from the bottom looking up past the trans. U may just have to replace it.
Its great u got it out in the track.
I have another thread specifically happening but it�s been a month since I�ve driven the car� generally it will be on the weekends but I�ve had this issue. Combined my videos into this.
You Tube
its not cheap ($550 all in) for 1.5 hours.
if that hasn�t scared you away it�s not a bad deal overall. They take you to the wet skidpad to let you practice correcting a slide, then the autocross and the kick plate (a test in counter steering and quick hands). That will eat up about an hour then you do lead-follow for the last half hour around their track. I enjoyed it but it�s far too rich for my blood to do on a regular basis. The track is perfect for a 996 or 997. There was plenty of 500bhp cars that likely didn�t have as much fun as I did.
the instructor smiled when we went to the wet skidpad. He told me to try it the first few times without traction control and got the smile when I told him my car has none
Trying to get the car ready for a track day or two in December and wouldn't you know it... its only a month away. After unsuccessfully fixing the lumpy idle and having some adjustable Arms to install I sent the car to JMP Autowerks will be handling the install of the adjustable arms in addition to dealing with the idle issue.
Parts include:
Front bump steer, Front GT3 Lower Control Arns, Front Adjustable Thrust Arms, Rear Adjustable Toe Arms, and Rear Toe Arm Locking Plates
Thats cool, but Im more excited with the alignment and corner balance that will come with it. Should be quite a bit of fun and we'll see if this as light as I think it is. My numbers going off a stock curb weight of 2901 puts my car right around 2800... Im going to limit my expectations to 2999 max, but we'll see.
If it's hands-on instruction for the entire time, that's fair IMO. I've been looking for a place to learn how to deal with rear-engined, non-LSD behaviors without resorting to sending a nice car off Buttonwillow Turn 1 on purpose. Maybe I'll see you there!
Killer car! I have a 2000 996 that�s currently getting a full rebuild with 3.8 nickies/the works for bulletproofing and functional performance stuff and I cannot wait to see the car feels when it�s done.
I worked for a company based in LA for two years and did a few Good Vibes drives with loaner 996s. Great people!
Yea, I wanted my first on-track experience to be with Porsche pros/ instructors and feel it was worth it. Would i make it a regular thing? Not likely but it does make a better use of my time when I can take a random Thursday off and go track my car for a little while.
I have a few updates from the shop and it looks like my aggressive driving has yielded its first casualty. Chances are this would've happened eventually but it looks like the corrugated plastic hose was rubbing against stuff in the engine bay and has a pinhole leak that was revealed during the smoke test. They will repair this section and confirm that there are no other leaks. Initial patch showed the idle settle down.
The other update was that these arms will not work. Looks like the solid bushing wont fit, but luckily the old arm still has a good rubber bushing.
6 months later... the estimate of 2750 does seem a
tad bit
harder to get to, but I still think I can get there. The 26XXs that I had dreamt about are definitely a dream though.
Got the corner balance numbers yesterday. Looks like the 2901 from the factory must've been a DRY weight. They did another with ballast for me, but thats not relevant here
I have some Road & Track magazines from when the car was new and being tested against other cars and I'll see what they have them weighing in at.
The 2 next planned pieces should get me to ~3000# flat though, and those are confirmed numbers from others, but as usual I will weigh them myself to confirm. I think I can get to about 2950 relatively easily before the big money purchases need to start happening and it will be a long shot to get to 2750, but aim for the moon, right?
2901 dry makes sense if fuel weighs about 6lbs a gallon(16.9gal capacity + 6lbs = 101.4lbs). At least you got numbers to prove it and not some wild assed guess.
Regarding non-LSD, you are going to feel it during braking, as well as with inside wheel spin while coming out of a corner on the throttle. If you are a novice, you won't feel it at all. The car from the factory comes with a healthy dose of understeer.
Exactly that yeah - time is precious and I'd love to do a half-day track day just to learn the car, not aiming for time or anything like that. Why was the hose rubbing, are the motor mounts giving too much?
It took Mountune 500hp and Robin Shute to best my stock-power Focus RS lap time by a tenth, so we're probably past novice
but risk-averse. Learning the C2 has been weird because the front just seems to wash out after a certain amount of trail-braking, so I don't have the confidence to push it on a public road. Skidpad time should tell me what I'm missing.
Certainly not a novice. The car with or without a LSD is pretty forgiving. You know the routine, smooth inputs and you will be in great shape. Enjoy your 996!
Guys, I need advice.
Latest update from the shop:
"We removed the ICV, found damaged gasket, replaced the gasket, idle still surging and pending code for ICV, removed ICV again and performed a Bench Test. Resistance is reading 34 Ohms where its supposed to be 16-19 Ohms, so its out of range. It's heading in the direction where we have to replace the ICV"
I dont want to spend $600+ for a new ICV, are there other alternatives?
Yea, $600 bucks is a lot of $$ for a sort of "guess"....of course very detailed-specific tests and oscilloscope tests at $150 per hr can burn up $600 bucks pretty quickly also ( 4 hrs) ..especially i you don't know the system like the back of your hand like I do..
Alternatives::
The best alternative would be to just grab a "known good" ICV from another car and try it...( has to be from a 99 C2 or 97-99 Boxster)
Or you can get a cheap new China E-bay ICV for about $25 bucks..........I have no idea of the quality of these or how likely a new one is to work 100% effectively for confirmation
Get a used OEM ICV from a dismantler.....Probably a 90%-95% chance it will be good...
BTW, your tests in the video were wrong... The ICV gets 12v to the center pin ( 9v is enough power for bench tests) and the two outer pins are "pulsed ground wires" ..( PWM)......so the rotating valve will "float" in one position if it receives the same "pulse width" ground from both outer pins..If one pin receives more pulses than the other, the rotating valve will move to close or open...These pulses can be seen and measured on an Oscilloscope ..Inside the DME are two transistors that drive these pulses...If the transistor has failed or is failing it can be replaced by ECU Doctors for a nominal fee....
Clean the ICV with carb cleaner first. They get really gummed up. I sprayed the interior valve with carb cleaner, let it soak, and began a process of cleaning out the goo with Q-tips. Repeat over and over again as necessary. It will initially look black, but actually it is bright silver inside. I would do this before replacing. You can test its movement with a 9V battery. It should not stick but have free movement back and forth.
Sorry, I owe you guys an update. Got the car back before Thanksgiving have put a few hundred miles on it since then. Took it up to this past Friday’s Good Vibes Breakfast Club, but forgot to take a pic amongst all the others, so I stopped and snapped this pic on the way down.
on the way up I ended up leading a group of water cooled Porsche’s up to Newcombs Ranch, and the little 996 more than held its own against the portly 991s that were chasing. Wish I figured out who the guy was behind me as he had a forward facing go-pro but when we arrived his car became one of many black 991s so I couldn’t figure who it was... oh well.
Finally, got my first official for real for real track day next weekend at Streets of Willow! How much oil do I need to take with me 😂
Newcomb's has been insane recently. I almost went up this Friday but could't make it. It's so public now, and with that Supra flipping over a few weeks ago, I'm sure the cop presence is only going to increase by a a lot.
For Willow did you do anything to get it track ready in case of oil starvation? I'd like to go there but concerned I'd overdo it with no engine prep.
I�m avoiding Big Willow and it�s long , high-G right hander. My car has the larger oil sump and I�ll be sure the oil levels stay high. Not sure what else to do... that�s why I�m asking
Streets of Willow doesn't have any long turns except the last skidpad right (or first left, if running CCW), it's generally fine for any road car because you tend to square the corner off - brake deep, flip the car over, accel out. Maximum lateral G's is only for a second or two. I don't really know M96's well but we race Hondas there with no pan baffles and they can do it (vs instant death at Buttonwillow's Riverside).
Quite a day yesterday, started very early and made it to the local Rosamond Chevron to fill up the tank at 7am. At 25* it was quite a bit colder than the LA I left. Cold track to say the least...
saw this Elise at the gas station too, but he was heading to Big Willow so wouldn’t be on the track with us
Ready to go! This event at the Streets of Willow was put on by JMP Auto, a primarily BMW shop. Needless to say, lots of bmws were around but there was a nice collection of other cars.
The JDM cars were special, one a home built 4AGE AE86 and a Renner built (another shop in LA, primarily Subies, located right across the street from the PEC-LA)
A GT4-RS that I had a fun battle with
...and finally, the wild child (hauler). S54 swapped E46 wagon
The first 2 morning sessions were slow and steady as I looked to find the best line, but I was all smiles.
Obligatory pic in front of the mural before I headed home. Quite a blast and I hope to return soon.
Best time was a 1:35 according to the one session that I was actually tracking my times haha There’s a lot more left in it. Im working on a video with the go-pro footage and hope to have that ready soon. Stay tuned !
I definitely think I can get into the 1:2Xs without too much issue. Just need to connect some sections, dial in the rear bowl too...
Goal for 2024 is 2 SoW sessions, 1 Buttonwillow and hopefully hopefully finally get my first Laguna Seca laps under my belt. I've always felt 4 track days per year should be the minimum. I've run Buttonwillow once back in ~2017 and I think I was in the 2:10s... but that was a totally different car. (24v Swapped E30)
Got some pics from the Streets of Willow track day... here are my Top 5 in no particular order.
Enjoy!
In other news, I should be receiving the last of a few interior bits and will have a nice update after the holiday
Looks great except for those numbers
.... dont mind me im just a blue tape number hater.
Clubreg store has fairly cheap setups. U may meed to sign up to see the page.
https://clubregistration.net/the-sho...?productID=968
Installed the first of my Black Friday purchases... there�s a few here.
(Before)
(After)
I have a few more things to install, but inside needs a steering wheel that I know what I want... and maybe a new center console in addition to a sexier horseshoe. Too much brittle plastic, the last few times I�ve had to deal with the interior pieces something has chipped and broken.
Long overdue detail happening by my friend Don of @domsgarage_ (Instagram) . It�s getting a full detail with a Ceramic coating to top it off. I finished removing the Porsche side stripes and plan to install a set of Carrera stripes from RennDecals. The look should be great for 2024, I can�t wait.
I tried to make a weird collage of his stories on his progress
Nothing like the car in its natural skin
After getting the car detailed, I had a very close eye on the forecast for my 1/1 annual drive. I got a few minutes in the garage and decided I wanted to install one of the stickers to make the rear less naked. (also a hint into what is coming)
Convinced a few buddies to join and we (mostly) had a great drive all over Malibu. Met at the base of Topanga Canyon, stupid Frito Lays truck ruined the pic! lol
See what I mean...
First stop at Stunt Road
Close-up of the Devins 'interior'
I hit 103k which means I'm only at 3k miles since I bought it. That needs to improve in '24
Eventually broke off with a good friend from Orange County who made the trek because he had been itching to drive in Malibu. FYI That Z3 has a funny story behind how he ended up with it... story for another day
On the way back down, it was so beautiful we had to stop and take a pic. Love my backyard!
Normally I dont take pictures of myself, but my buddy asked and Im glad I said yes. Great pic IMO
I'll be in LA first few days of February! Would be fun to meet up and go for a drive. Still figuring out my car situation but flying in Feb 1st. I've done many of those canyons around Malibu on my bike. Lot's of mouth breathing but fun
@plpete84
Definitely hit me up when you fly in. I'm not far from LAX actually, maybe I can be your Uber and grab you from the airport if you're solo LMAO
@Junkrat
I miss the blue accents also, but it screamed a little too much "LOOK AT ME I DRIVE A PORSCHE" ... and certain elements weren't done to a high quality. Plus theres a whole thing about making the car 'mine' ... theres still some changes coming and I hope you hang around for it!
Gotcha. Yeah, makes sense. Love making a car my own too with slight OEM+ changes. It definitely did stand out, but I found it eye catching in a good way, and I'm not a decal guy either. It still looks reallllly good tho, and gosh I love that ducktail!
Recently, I had a little project for a good friend. I wanted to pull some weight out of the tail of the car and liven up the sound.. but not too much, not straight piped. My car came with muffler deletes and as tempting as it was to drop 40# from the backside, I knew I was going to hate the noise. I learned of a solution to install a tiny muffler in the muffler delete pipes.
I don't have the skills or equipment to do that, but my buddy had the skills, just needed to help him get the equipment. So I helped him get the ball rolling to gather supplies, so that he could fixture these pipes to make more. It took months to get things together, and months to put some time aside, nights and weekends, to even build the new fixture table I helped him buy. Eventually, he had this:
Jig'd
Muffled!
Muffled!
Weighed! (3lbs, 10oz)
This should net a savings of around 33lbs off the rear. The old deletes had a random hanger, but I don't know what they actually attached to. I also am not sure if a hanger is needed. I'd like one, but haven't had a chance to install these to see what the best solution is.
The best part is that he has the jig setup so that anyone else who has muffler deletes and wants the same thing he can replicate it quite quickly. Hope to have a video soon and if enough people like it I can start a whole new thread dedicated to this
It will be great to hear a report on how these work, I did 3 baffles on a set of Fabspeed bypass pipes and it got rid of the drone but just to loud.
Wow just came back from Fabspeed website, they want 799.95 for bypass pipes. time to clean the garage out and find them.
Finally installed this Rennline Intake I bought during Black Friday sales... a shiny piece, but not likely to have done anything other than jazz up the engine bay
Before
After
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Took the car to the LA Cars & Coffee. Ran into
@Ben8jam
and saw his Convertible. Nice collection of cars there.
Back to the car. I love seeing the sexy intake in the airbox, but the wiring for the ducktail is now really annoying me...
I want to trim the fat from this harness and clean it up, as well as the fact that there's a light on the dash that the PO just put some black tape over the light. I'm not sure what I need to bridge or what. Hoping you guys can guide me on that.
Does the light go away if you keep the two switches depressed? Don't think my '03 has those switches, just a motor for up/down which works like a window regulator (stops at mechanical limit). I thought microswitches was a 996TT thing, yours looks similar:
I did the harness thinning and depinning on the deck lid but i didnt take any notes. I just used the wiring diagram in the Bentley book and cut out what i didnt need. It wasnt that hard and u can get your car "coded" for the fixed wing and the light will never come back on.
Do you know who can do this coding? Do you have a pic of the wiring diagram? I usually have a Bentley for my Euro cars, but haven't gotten one yet for this car...
Would the coding affect anything if I were to revert back to the OEM tail other than the light not turning on?
Thanks!
No, that light happened during my multiple R&Rs of the Recaros. The annoying little square connector can be installed 4 ways and I got it wrong... but I also would like that to turn off.
The PO cleverly put some black tape over the engine lid light thats towards the left in the grouping of lights.
I dont suppose thats something I can do with my bluetooth OBD Dongle & OBD Fusion?
Lemme know if you figure out the light, I have a ducktail and when i go above 70 and then slow down below 70, my spoiler light comes on. Though, a piece of black tape may just as easy.
Im pretty sure u need a pwis to code the car for a fixed spoiler. I dont think durametric will do but i dont own one so i have never looked.
If i get a second ill try to find that diagram.
@Porschetech3
runs his rear spoiler up at all times IIRC. He coded out the lowering sequence so it stays up. Maybe he can tell us if Durametric will do it.
OP, if you buy the correct harness, the light on the dash should go off.
In addition to the retractable spoiler harness, there is one for fixed spoiler
with
brake light and another for fixed spoiler
without
brake light.
996.612.070.04 fixed wing with brake light
996.612.070.51 fixed wing without brake light
The prices on these harnesses has gone through the roof in the last few years so you may decide you can live with the tape.
Well... theres a Porsche Tax if I've ever seen one!... I plan to buy an OEM harness that is untouched and leave that with the stock decklid and will happily
hack
trim the fat out of this one
Its still more than I would want to spend. I think since this one is already beat up, I will strip it down and just have a good replacement sitting around...
Mashaw has the harness for $130 if u can get a hold if them.
http://mashaw.biz/GT3CupDecklid.asp
Still too much if u have an old factory regular harness to strip down.
Boss is gone, so I took his reserved spot.
Todays downpour is a sneak peak of what driving this thing daily is going to be like... and its not horrible, but the MPG sucks and could start to get ugly quick. At the least, its got me thinking already (its only been DD for one week)
In other news, I wanted to reply to
@ZuffenZeus
and show a pic of my cluster with its lights. Its different than the one posted, so not sure when they may have changed the layout of the cluster. I didnt remove the label but its off to the left, hidden.
Met up with
@plpete84
during his visit to SoCal. We went up to Good Vibes Breakfast Club, normally a huge turnout but with a downpour yesterday And freezing temps a lot smaller turnout but I think we all had a great time. I took a few pics
Mine
996s + 1 generation newer
996s + 1 generation older
Haven�t really done much since the Good Vibes event, barely driven the car. I did change the oil and replaced the stripped oil plug drain with a magnetic one from LN and still need to get this oil sent to Blackstone.
I took it out for a quick spin today and heard some troubling lifter tap. It doesn�t sound horrible other than actually being there. I have pretty limited time to inspect before a scheduled PCA auto cross on the 24th, so I�m hoping you guys can do 2 things for me.
(1) settle my nerves a little about this
(2) give me a few quick and easy areas to check
wishful thinking on both... but please!
It's an early 99...don't even think bore-scoring on this model, it's probably just a loose Cat or maybe carbon build-up on the pistons from driving it like an old Granny....lol
If any consolation mine has developed a tapping at high heat. After rather spirited driving to Newcombs on both occasions at the top I've noticed a noisy tapping sound. My mechanic said most likely it is a noisy lifter, nothing to be particularly concerned about, and a heavier oil on the next oil change would likely solve it. I wonder if when I bought the car they had used to have your oil when they change the oil and when I changed it again the lighter oil brought the problem forward. But yeah it's not fun to hear. Once the car cools down for 20 minutes noise is gone. mine is also an early build. no start up smoke no tail pipe buildup
A month later... an update!
Shortly after my last post we closed on a house just a few miles from our Townhouse in Inglewood, but we're now in Westchester.A nice upgrade on the garage size, except now I have to move everything over to the new place and set it all up again. Goal is to get it nice and organized which means its going to take forever. Found so much old crap I'd forgotten about, but anyways thats one of the reasons for the lack of updates. I also got Shingles, so that was fun. I ended up missing the PCA autocross I had signed up for but they were nice and let me transfer that to the one coming up this weekend.
Anyways, were a bit more settled down and with the autocross coming up, I knew I needed to get under the car and do a quick looksee but also wanted to finally install these shorty mufflers. First 'wrenching' in the new garage is beginning. Time is limited so last night was just getting the car up, wheels off and reinstalling the coilpack heatshield that rattled itself loose.
Finally, I finished this little video
here
about the Rennline intake. I had originally planned to do a writeup with installation, but it was so easy and the footage was boring to watch I figured I could leave my final thoughts and move on to the next video which will probably be the autocross, and maybe the shorty muffler install.
Thanks, cant wait to get these 'mufflers' installed.
Organizing the garage is going to be a long task, especially since I want to have a cool setup... might be an evolution. Its also the 'studio' for The Tuman Show so I have to make it look nice
Apparently they only ask people over 60 because people in their 40s rarely get it... I didn't even know, but I'm also stubborn enough to generally turn down most vaccines.
Thank you! The intake certainly
looks
good, but hard to say if it actually did anything. I will dyno the car at some point and we'll see what this thing makes. I didnt have high hopes other than looking good, and it does.
Back to the Show, I took Friday off to "prep" the car, but just ended up running errands and going to GVBC again.
I dont know if I have gotten the 'official' pic in front of the sign with this car yet, so I did this time.
996 Content
I did a little lead/ follow with this 996 Turbo and he was impressed with my speed. I was NOT impressed with his low tread wear tires kicking up rocks on me haha
Yellow is faster
Red 911 anyone?
and the other impressive stuff
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Only pic I took at the autocross of my car. I am working on a little video of this weekends shenanigans
The PCA-LA puts on a great event and my instructor Chris Weber was awesome. I improved from a 55 down to 50.3, but I was really hoping to get into the 49s and I probably could've if I was a little more brave in a few areas and a little more patient in others haha. Good times and I plan to attend some more soon, but I also want to get back to Streets of Willow as well as hit 1 or 2 new tracks this year. Buttonwillow should be one and hopefully I can finally pop my Laguna Seca cherry... we'll see.
Finally got these pics from a photographer who snaps cars on Angeles Crest.
This pic is from the drive back in January that
@plpete84
was on with us. Early riser
and this one was from the March drive.
Trying to finally get the shorty mufflers installed, but am concerned with lack of hanger support, so I hit up my buddy Charlie to help out with the last solution. I had spoken to Kevan about helping with me with this in the initial phase of making these, but my schedule is too jammed to get out to his place. Luckily Charlie lives a few minutes from me and loves to make loud noises so he will full encourage this behavior.
I also think Im about ready to add the Carrera side stripes
Dang, not sure why the thread didnt get the Fried Eggs & Jam update didnt hit here
Wont go into too much detail here. I have a
thread
already about it and I made a
video
so you only get one pic
Been slightly distracted with this other 911 project...
Luckily I have been able to sell a few of the other distractions off, should have my rebuilt GT3 Coilovers here soon and was going to buy a steering wheel that I really wanted, but it looks like Im buying a Carbon Fiber hood instead. Im dragging my feet on sending the money, but not sure why... I should just send it already.
Money I DID send was to register for the Central Coast PCA regions track day at LAGUNA SECA. As a NorCal kid this track has always been a dream. Weird that I will end up finally driving Laguna Seca after already haven driven on the Nurburgring, twice...
Its Fathers' Day and I used my 'selfish' choice of what I wanted to do for my day to say I want to go to the track, on my own dime haha...
I know I'm very late to the party here. But, the cool thing about forums is that the info is here for years.
Dude, this was absolutely the wrong attitude to take when @Atgani offered their feedback. I said, "What the eff?!", under my breath several times when I watched your video on the matter. Not to mention seeing you cut up your child's car seat so that it would fit better in the back where you
removed
the seats.
All on a car that you drive in an area with some of the worst traffic in the country and take to the track.
Physics doesn't care about how cool your car looks. Physics doesn't care if you saved a few bucks. Physics doesn't care if you were finally able to get the seats to fit.
All of these engineering standards, rules, etc...are written in blood.
I really hope you reconsider putting the stock seats back in or at least getting the Recaros
properly
installed. While I admire your DIY spirit, you should listen when people say things that will keep you safe and don't be an idiot and get mad because they tried to help you. You obviously don't know what you are doing.
Jesus dude. The ends absolutely do not justifiy the means here.
Get mad if you want. I don't care. This is an opportunity for you to learn...or not.
Finally starting to get my garage organized and decided it was time to install the Carrera side stripe decals. Figured I would start on the passenger side so any mistakes could be avoided on the side I would see more often. Overall it went quite well. I tried really hard to make sure the areas that fell on the door gaps would be a smooth transition and I think it worked out well overall.
The 'Before'
The 'During'
The 'After'
Took it up to another GVBC and had a great day.
Some other cars in attendance that I enjoyed:
Short-stroke 3.2 on Motec with a 915. Owner was great. @dadanosbest on IG
Wealthy car collector @bigfuknfstdaddy on IG . He owns the Red Pikes Peak 997TT among several other cars. He's like the Jon Daly of the LA car scene LOL
Some (former) Hoonigans
Trying to get my car (and mind) prepped for the PCA Laguna Seca event on June 16. I want to flush the brake fluid, install the GT3 brake ducts and get it teched. They wont let me self tech, so its tempting to pay a shop to do that... and maybe change the gear oil too, but in the blink of an eye it gets expensive. I think I want to tackle the brake fluid myself and have the shop doing the tech deal with the gear oil. I have some Swepco 201 that never got used in my old Datsun, but not sure a shop will let me provide my own fluid... so any suggestions are welcome.
I'd call them up when scheduling and ask them what they use. You can always ask them if you can bring in a different gear oil. They will probably have an opinion as we'll which is always good to hear. Make sure you have plenty of brake pads and rotors left.
Went on my usual Saturday Morning meeting and drive. Havent done it in a while and man oh man was it a foggy start. One side of the mountain was clear, but at the peak and the coastal side... white-out.
Had a few 'cosmetic' items show up this last week too. Have an update on the interior coming, but had to skip the steering wheel when that Carbon Fiber hood popped up. That will come soon once I sell a few more parts.
Excited to get these in the car.
I also dropped off the car at
RedLine Service
to have them flush the brake fluid, check the brakes and other items to make sure I'm good when I go to Laguna Seca in less than 2 weeks. They are also going to install the GT3 brake ducts that were the first thing I bought for the car, over a year ago haha
The car did quite well and I improved as each session progressed. Already know a few things I can do to improve the next time I'm out there.
I was hoping to have my GT3 Coilovers done and installed before, but they just wrapped up. Sadly, in my quest to find some GT3 Top Mounts here in the classifieds I got scammed. Hoping I can somehow retrieve the funds, but it is very frustrating and annoying because I thought I had taken all the steps to protect myself but Venmo told me to pound sand...
I need to add some pics, but I've got a pic from the Corkscrew and need to take a pic of the one other update I made to the car. Interior is getting close to completion which is nice. A few items left to complete before its done.
Ditto! I've only been to Laguna Seca during Monterey Car Week so it's weird seeing it so deserted.
My M5 next to the GT3 in the Porsche/BMW corral. Don't remember the year.
It feels like a different place on a track day VS the big events.
Im excited to get back out there, but not sure when it will be. I have to get at least 1 more track day and 1 more Autocross before the end of the year. Wifey is pregnant with #2 so next year(s) will likely be very limited.
Still have some changes I want to do ASAP
Took Friday off because it was my birthday and went up to Good Vibes again. The full route up from Angeles Crest highway was open again and its shocking how much faster it is when you dont have to go around the mountain...
I was in no rush to get home, so took more pics this time.
These were my favorites:
Some clean aircooleds...
And now... name that VW!? (I know, but do you?!)
Lambo Murci, gated. Yes
Ferrari 355, modded
In car related news, I FINALLY picked up my GT3 coilovers from Glen Yee Motorsports / GYM. He included a little notebook about what shock tuning is and what a shock dyno means, followed by the shock dyno. He said I was going to really like these, especially compared with the Godspeed Coilovers..
Cant wait to get these on!... sadly because I got scammed it will take longer since I dont have top mounts. I think I know where I will get them from, but it wont be as soon as I want
I like the Tarrett. They are basically a GT3 clone. Should've bought one in the Classifieds when I saw it, but the shop pulled a bait and switch on me. Said they would help me with it, but then charged me the full $1000+ retail for the mounts. Once I declined the Tarretts were gone and I saw some 997 GT3 ones, which is where the scam came in.
MARK YOUR ADS SOLD PEOPLE!...
Anyways, made this little video about the Laguna Seca experience too
You Tube
Pulled the bumper last night to clean out the radiator ducts
Not so many leaves, but lots of butterflies and a few cigarette butts lol
also snapped a pic of the brake ducts. I bought these a long time ago. Need to cross reference the part number to see exactly what they came off of..
It was also nice to see a small skid plate under the front bumper, as well as the CSF center radiator.
Were you asking around in another thread about what else to do while the bumper is off?
Regardless, if your bumper is still off and you haven�t done it yet, then I recommend you relocate your frunk�s emergency release cable to the tow eyelet opening on your bumper. This saved me a lot of aggravation yesterday, and I�m glad I did it a few months ago when I removed the bumper.
I was the one asking about it...
Mines a 4/98 build so I didnt even see an emergency cable, maybe because mine is a pull cable anyways... its not electronic. Not sure.
Work event in Marina Del Rey... took the 911 since it will be held hostage in the garage for ~2 weeks
While the car is trapped in the garage I want to tackle the rear coilovers to try and knock out one end at a time. I dont think the rear will be too difficult, but I have never attempted it yet. We'll see...
Rear Godspeed Coilovers are out, but sadly cant install the new ones just yet... No nuts for the top mounts and also cant find my coilover adjusters, so hopefully this weekend...
Slow and steady progress!...
Rear coilovers are all adjusted and in, still have to install the sway bar arms. Those should happen one of these nights, but for now I wanted to get started on removing the mufflers and beginning the install of the sporty shorty mufflers. Weighed the old hardware and they came up a little more than what I have seen online (~20#), but mine have the gundo/fister mod done and I also threw in all the hardware since none of it will be needed with the new stuff. It came in right at 28/29# for one side.
Excited to hear what this will sound like. It will be loud, but shouldn't be as bad as the straight up deletes. Not quite finished, but close to being done for one side. I will add a support hanger since its otherwise just a clamp on the exhaust.
Once the front is done and it goes in for another alignment, I will get it corner balanced again and this time the weight should be under 3000# as I will also have removed the spare. I have the carbon fiber hood and (eventually) the Antigravity battery that should shave ~50+ pounds off the nose. Once thats all done, I should be around 2920 based on my calculations. I think I can find more weight to shave off the rear since I dont want to shift the balance to the back anymore than it is.
Pretty much wrapped up the main part of the install.
Installed the bumper and its not perfectly centered in the cutout, but I will live with that. Will I be able to live with the exhaust note? We'll find out soon. Autocross is this weekend and I have a few loose items to wrap up tomorrow night.
Heres all the stuff that I removed, weighed. A little worried about the 'parachuting' effect the empty cavity may have and sadly the bumper is in good condition so I cant justify the dremel or sawzall yet
I think the net loss will be right around 50# !! I'm going to remove and store the spare for my LA driving, and pack it for long-distance driving since I have AAA+ and can have them deliver the car home within 100 miles ( I may have upgraded to the 200 mile package, cant remember haha)
This mod, plus the spare removal should officially get me under 3000# as-is. At this point the goal is to get this car down to the 2901 claimed weight that Porsche said these weighed
I think i would put the plastic side supports back on. They retain the bumper edges behind the tires. U can strip the heat shields because u have no mufflers
Well, I have been waiting for pics from the autocross but it looks like you'll have to live with the crappy ones taken with a cell phone.
In other news, I got the front Coilovers out and sold. Sadly the top nut I needed for the GT3 Coilovers had to be special ordered and the 996 part is superseded with a 997 part #. All this to say, Pelican Parts had to order it from the East Coast and it wont get here until after the long weekend. Bummer as I'll miss two good weekends of driving.
Also, my order for the frunk organizer and cover arrived. I already had a Euro triangle, but looks like Porsche wants me to order theirs, so I just took it out of its red box and now there is a triangle in the kit.
Really don't like how the cover looks in there. Its the wrong color, and doesnt cover the whole thing (which I was already expecting) but its worse than I thought... Might be sending the cover back and doing something else. Not sure yet. I still have a few more things to buy to 'complete' the kit
Cant wait to get it all back together and driving again... I miss driving this car and anytime it sits without being driven, my mind wanders...
haha talk about a blast from the past. I was actually just on vortex bumping a thread from 09 where I was asking where my old TD Coupe ended up...
Right now the only VW I have is my DD 06 Jetta TDI. Getting the itch to play with something like that again though. My friend has a full-on project mk2 VR6 GTi that I kinda want to build and sell. I want to play with a VR6 again but dont think I want to own one long-term...
Had a few moments in the garage and decided to weigh the spare, jack and other few things that came out to see what reduction I've got from this.
Another ~30# and this comes off the nose. I am still considering getting the antigravity battery, but that wont be until the battery actually dies. That means that other than the Carbon Fiber hood, I'm done with front end weight reductions. Time to see what I can do on the other end of the car, but that is likely to be in 5-10# increments through various minor changes.
BTW according to my tally, this brings me to a grand total of 2985#
Hey Tom, Very interested. I sent you a Private Message
Sending the other cover back to Suncoast, hoping that shipping wont kill me since its on my own dime... something I'll need to consider in the future since they are across the country.
Looks like the photographer only got a few pics of my car 'dancing' around the circuit and didnt quite get a good one... this was his best shot of mine
Snuck out of work mid-day to head to Pelican and pick up my special-ordered top nuts. Came home and once I put the kiddo down, I finished assembling the front coilovers.
Wanted to get a pic of the goodies before the install...
Cant wait to drive this thing again, but I will likely need to get another alignment done after changing the coilovers... will add a corner balance to the task list to see what the corner weights (and overall weight) looks like.
$55 Longacre toe plate kit my friend. As long as your rear alignment doesn't change, you can tweak the front in your garage and get it just as accurate as any normal laser rack. Slap the camber setting all the way in, measure toe, lift car, shorten tierods, drop car, roll it back and forth a few times to settle, re-measure toe, lift car, adjust tierods again, drop car, settle car, re-measure. Once you get the hang of it, the front alignment on a 996 (and basically any older car without EPS) is a 1hr DIY.
@circuit.heart
That's funny, because that's actually the plan after this initial setup. I want to drive the car ASAP and would rather have the plate kit for making adjustments down the road rather than getting this setup done now. I generally have very limited time, but its a skill I want. For Ex, I had to install the front and rear coilovers at totally different times, and installed the fronts last night starting at 9pm. Balancing Dad/ Husband life along with all the other stuff isnt easy, but I make it happen.
TLDR; The initial alignment could take me forever, so I'm farming this one out.
Alright, car is all done and wrapped up, installation wise when it comes to the GT3 Coilovers. Needs an alignment, still sort of drives straight-ish but Im still having it towed to Johnson Alignment in Torrance to get its ride height corrected (higher in the front, and lower in the rear), aligned, and corner balanced.
Also, to close the loop on the rear sway bar tabs, I used some Eibach adjustable ones because factory GT3 were $300 for a very basic tab.
I didn�t understand why you would want to raise the front and lower the rear until I saw your photograph, LOL.
I think the front will scrape when trying to board the flatbed. I don�t know how much you care, but it may be something to consider before ringing for a tow.
Muscle car rake is not the look or driveability I wanted... LMAO
The front has a metal skid plate underneath the bumper that I discovered in post 202 when I removed the bumper to clean the radiators. Its already been towed to the Alignment shop and I made sure we added some wood planks to get it on the flatbed without scraping.
EDIT: Just talked to them. He said they will go for an aggressive street driving setup on a 'Euro-ride height', and he also said the rear toe-links need to be replaced. Said the front control arms are jam packed with shims that they will be removing since its maxed out and overboard up front. This makes sense since the GT3 top mounts are designed to add camber, combined with the shims I was at a silly camber. Lots of work ahead... This bill is not going to be cheap... such is life...
Johnson Alignment wrapped it up yesterday and did a great job. He removed a bunch of shims from the GT3 front control arms and replaced the upper tie rod ends as well as the rear upper ones, 4 tie rod ends replaced in all.
He went with an 'aggressive street' setup and said he can get wilder for track days, if I want to. I'm a little confused why the left side is 50# heavier than the right, the 2 case logic cassette bags dont weigh that much! Also bummed that the car is still over 3000# but a friend who owns a 996.2 Targa drove it and said it feels significantly lighter than his car. So thats nice at least...
I'm gone this weekend and really wanted to drive the car so I brought her to work today, taking the longer route... feels great now!
At this point, its all about driving. I have a few minor changes to do here and there, but now its time to just get in and drive.
Thanks for sharing, I�m going to get mine looked at soon. Was recommend in another thread that I add camber as I�m wearing the outside. Getting near edge of tire (ACH runs). My current numbers are:
Front:
Camber: -.5
Caster: 8.5
Toe: +2.5�
Rear:
Camber: -1.25
Toe: +1.0�
Hey! Sorry for the late reply. I have 'filmed' some content that I have been lagging to finish up. Long story, but I make my videos on my ipad and had left it at my parents house for a few weeks, just got it back. I recorded a whole bunch of stuff, but since its a bit stale now I'm going to add a bit more to it and get a better clip of the exhaust note. My most recent post on my Instagram has a short burst on there, but its an in-car. I think I want to add a video from the back of the car, but worry its going to have too much wind-noise, but we'll see.
Both my IG & YouTube is @the_tuman_show
Fun little weekend with the car... Started off early in Malibu, but didnt get the lovely sunrise pic I was hoping for. Still a nice view
From there I went and did some 'spirited' driving on Piuma up and around, and back down Los Flores. This new alignment is fantastic. Also brought some hardware to get some better audio & video.
@996love
I think you will like this one much more.
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Took my car to the Los Angeles Cars & Coffee yesterday, but wasnt able to stay too long. I did remember to take a picture of my own car ... and a few others.
Really liked this Giulietta Sprint 1600. The colors of these Alfa's are lovely...
This Porsche, had me a little conflicted. It represents a lot of good and bad things about the Aircooled 911 aftermarket/ owners...
Shoutout to
@Tom Loder
as he came through with the cover that fits better and actually matches my interior. Now I can focus on spending dumb money on the matching/ missing pieces to complete the kit.
Thank you!
Lol, I watched your most recent video - you�ve got some jokes!
Thanks for the sound clips of the exhaust. It sounds really good! The noise does sound a bit tame compared to a regular muffler delete.
I don�t feel strongly about air-cooled 911s (not much experience with them), so what�s so bad about that blue one? You don�t like the lights?
@996love
Yea, the lights...
Somehow Singer is able to make it work and the knock-ffs all look like cheap copies.
Hows everyones Fall coming along? LA has such a dynamic climate. Being on the westside we have had fog/ coastal coverage and 'comfy' 60* weather, while everything around us was hit with a heatwave this weekend and it was in the 90s+ in many places...
Still didnt stop me from hitting Angeles Crest when I can!.. Also, unbeknownst to me theres a Corvette that had just crashed in this pic LOL #respectthecrest
Sorry I missed the reply! I have more pics in my video, along with some of the other accidents that happened. Ironically, the very next week someone in a 370Z crashed in that same section, it was pretty bad and they blocked ACH for over an hour while they airlifted him out. Conflicting reports if he made it or not. SLOW Down!!
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This weekend I didn�t end up going up Angeles Crest and ended up going up to Malibu and stopped at Stunt Rd.
I have to smog the car so I took the mufflers off, and the Rennline air box too. Sadly the air box and the ducktail weren�t playing well together so the air box had to go. Sold it locally pretty quick� small financial loss lol� Ce La Vie
Stunt Rd is cool too! I biked up and down through the Malibu hills and stopped in this spot for a coffee. Someone set up a pop-up. Ironically I ran into a guy I chatted with at Good Vibes the day before who was out with a buddy of his who works for Singer. He had his 993 with a fun name on the read lid...
Does the ducktail have any functional benefit or is it mostly aesthetics? I ask because I love it, but don't want to regress in terms of downforce at all.
Surely it has a benefit, or Porsche wouldn't put them on 911s since the 964 {I think?} in the form of pop up spoilers. Every car, or most of them, generate lift under the rear end. Aero starts to influence an object moving through the air at around 55 mph, getting exponentially stronger as speed increases. This can be in the form of drag, hence the 55mph speed limit during the fuel crisis. Or it can be in the form of lift or downforce. So our 996 spoilers activate at 70, which must be where Porsche wind tunnel testing indicated that handling would stabilize somewhat with the addition of a little spoiler, while not suffering from drag at lower speeds and messing up gas mileage.
That rear end lift can get pretty intense at 100mph. Besides, fixed duck tail spoilers look so alluring on 911s. Probably because of the glamorous '73 RS. I know that's why I like them. Without wind tunnel testing, the true effects of aftermarket pieces aren't known, but they are assumed. At least by me. I'm a sucker for them. That said, my car is stock.
Id say without anything else done, its mostly cosmetic. It might have an effect, but the 996 has a bigger problem up front, not so much in the back. I plan to get the Demonspeed Front Splitter (Joe Toth?), as it is quite noticeable that the front gets light... I might also cut the GT3-RS slits in the front bumper along with the GT2 chimney to aid in both venting the center radiator but also helping the nose stay planted.
You can fix alot of the lightness with a good set of adjustable coilovers and sway bars. Fwiw, i would go for mechanical grip first thats consistent and dependable, and then worry about the aero which is either on or off depending on your speed.
What would you suggest doing? I have GT3 coilovers and Eibach sway bars. The alignment was set to 'euro-GT3' right height and the rear sway is on the middle-setting. I dont think either of those will address the light feeling the nose has at high speed.
To be pedantic the aero effect is quadratic, with the scale of speed - Formula SAE racers know this well as the cars may not crest 40mph but make hundreds of pounds of downforce with their enormous wings. Porsche has lift data on the 996 body styles anyways, the Carreras all lift up front whilst the rear is close to 0 with the teatray deployed. A front lip or Aerokit bumper is a very good thing.
@2mAn
you mentioned you were interested in getting a lip made before, I've got a loose arrangement with a 3D scanner down in SoCal if you're able to make time to visit his shop. With a good scan I can crank out a front lip for you to test. Interested?
Definitely! PM sent with my cell #
OEM Hollow Spokes. 18x8 and 18x10 (??) Tires are 225/40fr & 275/35rr . Pressures are usually around 35 +/- 3psi ... I usually dont go crazy on the canyons, but definitely play with pressures on auto-x and track days
Do all of this.....it helps. Gt3 front bumper, cup splitter, canards and the gt2 chimney with rs cut outs. A 996 is so a$$ heavy the extra aero in front wont make the rear light.
For sure, nothing wrong with aero.
The point I was making in my previous post is that you don't have to spend the money on aero to get the front end to settle down and handle like it's on rails. The first thing I would do is take your front tire pressures down a couple of pounds to widen your contact patch. just make sure that you are running tires with strong sidewalls. If the issue is also understeer, tighten your rear sway bar up a notch to a stiffer setting. It will help to facilitate rotation.
My 6TT never feels floaty even at 140mph. The back needs to be a little higher than the front. I run 100/125mm ride heights so 1" higher in the back. Fixing the OEM reverse rake is important.
Great commentary guys, I appreciate the sharing of the knowledge!
The car actually handles pretty great now, Im basically at the point of wanting to test out the feedback of the sway bar adjustment, by moving it up a notch. At this point, its more about high speed stability versus maximum handling grip.
I believe that. The Turbo & GT3 were much more developed and designed for triple digits versus an early 996.1 C2. My car has a rake, though its closer to a 1/4" versus the full 1" in the rear.
I dont want people to think that I am complaining about how the car is, quite the opposite. Its so good, I just know there is so much more I can do.
The easiest thing you can do is the lower the front end some more. If you�re worried about ground clearance, then raise the rear instead. Or do a combination of both.
I�m hesitant to suggest a stiffer rear sway bar adjustment. I don�t really like the idea of lessening the rear grip to improve the front end, especially on a street car. There�s way too many one-sided bumps on the street that will unsettle the rear end when tying the rear end together with a stiffer sway.
The front lip is a good suggestion, and you may actually have to raise the front end to compensate, because it may give you
too much
front end downforce�
I�ve found success using GT3 fender liners. The C2 fender liners vent downwards, in front of the front tires, but the GT3 liners vent into the wheel well. I paired those liners with the GT3
upper
brake ducts, which directs the hot radiator air to my front brakes.
I no longer have a light front end - it feels planted and gives a lot of confidence. It actually feels a bit more oversteery in high speed turns, which is kind of a problem. I can feel the rear end wiggle upon brake release while entering a turn. I really have to focus on gently releasing the brakes now, because the wiggle is a bit unsettling. I�ve gotten used to the difference now, but it used to bother me a lot. I�m using the stock rear active spoiler, but had been considering modding it for a bit more rear downforce to compensate.
I have noticed that there is a bit more drag. I really have to work the engine to get it to achieve the same speed, than when I did while using the C2 liners.
You could also cut a chimney vent into your front bumper, but I�m wary of doing that and hating the outcome.
If you have the DIY skills, then why wouldn't you want to mess around with the GT3 coilover height & rake settings, sway bar stiffness, tire pressures, camber, etc.
Perfect time to get to know the differences in characteristics so you can dial in the characteristics you are looking for. This will better prepare you for making adjustments if/when you add meaningful aero.
Have fun with it.
He should be concerned a bit about the potential to mess up his nice corner balance. He�ll either have to take his car back and to have the car�s front end lowered on scales, or be very careful and lower the front end by exactly the same amount of turns.
Sometimes we think that wr have to get it perfect quickly the first time. In reality, if you plan on being a long term owner, all we have to do is make incremental changes to understand its changes to handling characteristics and learn what you like. For sure, once you have played around with it enough, you find the right set up and that's when you spend the money on a corner balance.
First thing I would do is try a couple of pounds less in front tire pressure and see how it feels. If you like it, keep it. if not, go back.
Second thing I would do is test adjusting the rear sway bars to the next stiffest setting and see how it feels at different speeds and types of turns. It may be an improvement, or it may not be for your level of expectations. Why not try a softer setting as well, just to see its characteristics.
If you decide to mess around with rake, do it incrementally and slowly to see any noticable difference and if you have developed a preference.
You also have an opportunity to get your arms around what you have with your GT3 coilover rebuild and springs. You can always swap out springs and test different variations.
Testing and refinement of your 996 is just plain old fun for many of us. To others, it's worse than getting a root canal.
Been a busy few weeks and while some of you notice that I listed it for sale its only because theres a chance I can buy a GT3... the truth is that I do not expect anyone to give me my asking price, but I had to throw it out there.
Anyways, I finally had a little window where I was able to take the car out in the middle of the day Sunday and did my usual route up Mulholland to Stunt and back down to PCH. Wasnt going to stop, but the colors in the sky was so nice...
I have a few cool things coming soon too, so unless someone is in absolute love with this car, 2025 is looking good.
Have you had your car�s power measured on a dyno? It�s probably close to that of a GT3, and your asking price is also probably close to the cost of a FSI rebuild.
I've reached out to a shop I trust to do the dyno, once back when they prepped it for a track day but the bill got too big to add another item at that point. I reached out again not too long ago, but they said they werent doing any more dyno appts for the year so next year we will try again. I want to do it with the shorty mufflers too, but I will have to reinstall them again. Not likely to happen for a few months as I have a kid coming in February. We'll see.
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1446391
I had a chance to see and drive this car... handling-wise my car is on-par with it, but the character of a Metzger vs 'regular' M96 is two different worlds. Wont cry if I miss my chance, but I have to give it a shot.
Thats what I thought too, but he just picked up a Sharkwerks 997 GT3 with a 3.9L motor. He swapped in his Recaro Pole Positions and dropped the price $10k... we'll see what happens.
Getting you caught up on this weeks afterhours work and what todays nervousness was...
~4500 miles since the last oil change, which sadly for me was a little over 6 months. I will do better next time. I also need to send this into Blackstone, Im delaying in the hopes I will find the kit I stored from the last change and have a proper historical data
Figured Friday the 13th would be the best day to go face the enemy.
Luckily, it was quite painless
I registered my coupe to Montana with lifetime registration. Looking forward to never having to get a smog check again (for that one car at least)! It's mostly going to be on track and just canyons, so felt okay about it being out-of-state.
Mine gets driven everywhere, so I prefer to keep the CA registration. Besides nothing I plan on doing would make it illegal.I will reserve my out-of-state car(d) for something that cant actually be registered, which if you asked me today is a Suzuki Cappuccino
Happy New Years!
Took the car out for my annual New Years Day drive with a few buddies. Decided to head up to Newcombs the back way and were pleasantly surprised while hanging out with an unexpected 911.
This thing looks pretty stunning in person, doesnt really blow you away with its looks, however knowing its all Carbon is cool, but the magic is under that engine lid. It sounded unreal.
I put a sound clip on my IG story @the_tuman_show might still be there if you hurry...
Was hoping to hit the canyons but with the fires everything was closed for safety� ended up just cruising around and snapping this pic near Dockweiler beach� sadly that�s not coastal fog, but smoke from the Palisades fires.
Thank you! Previous owner had installed the spacers, I want to say they are ~10-12mm. I havent measured them before. I can check and get back to you next time I have the wheels off.
Cars still here, and I'm still doing stuff. After that last drive, I had a bit of a shock that had happened randomly prior where the car wouldn't start immediately and would take a second attempt. That last drive however I had a bit of a shock on my last stop before getting home and then suddenly it wouldn't start. Luckily it was right in front of my house. I had used the 911 to jump start my E30 while I had a weak battery on the E30. The E30 got a new battery recently so now it was time to return the favor and the E30 jumped the 911... anyways, I finally bit the bullet and got an Antigravity battery and got myself a tender and all that. A solid 30# weight reduction, and while its on the nose and not the tail it still finally, and officially gets me under 3000#...
Old Battery came in at ~45#
New Battery is ~14#
So call that good news, the bad news was that on that same drive it seems I picked up a souvenir and have to get this patched.
Get ready for a fight at the tire store. Seems as though insurance has clamped down on most places and they refuse to do repairs. Either from the inside or outside the tire. I bought a plug kit years ago and it has been a life saver. Have used it multiple times and have never had a failure. Good luck
Costco is really good at fixing nails and such, or replacing a tire under warranty. Day before my first track day a few months back, I found one of my PS4s tires flat. I was gutted. I filled it up and went to Costco where i got the tires, they found a nail. They said no problem, they'd plug it as part of warranty. I told them I was going to the track the next day, and he was adamant it wouldn't be an issue. And if you know Costco, they are super uppity about warranty on tires. Yeh yeh flame me for taking a plugged tire to the track, but I did, and I pushed, and I still have a plugged tire
Wouldn't even bother going to a shop. I've plugged a tire without even taking it off the car before, the green Slime-branded kit plays well with Michelins. Doesn't throw off wheel balance enough to matter (and in the rear you won't feel it).
Curious how much the front ride height changes with "just" 30lbs taken off. I'm trying to raise my 997 (stock struts, not coilovers) and don't want to make parts if I can help it.
The shop I took it to Pacific Tire, was ten minutes from work and they had me in and out before I finished talking to Hagerty about adding my E30 to the policy...
In fact I spent more time taking the wheel on and off then they did plugging the dang thing. no brainer $20 spent...
I'm hoping to take it out tomorrow, especially since we have some (much needed) rain coming on Sunday.
Sorry, forgot to let you know that they are 15mm spacers.
Some of you know I had posted the car FS as I wanted to try and upgrade to a local 996 GT3, but that car has since sold and I've lost interest in dealing with the insulting $25k offers people were sending me...
With a kid coming in about a week (or sooner!
) I dont have time to deal with tire-kicker, but with a few weeks off I might have some time to sneak into the garage and install a few items I have sitting around.
Sadly, it's always the same. Mods go out the window in terms of resale value. Looking at modifying my coupe, I know I'm just throwing the money away - except if I get a good amount of track days out of it, it's well spend. A better plan when ready to sell is probably to replace everything back to stock. Take the $25k offer, and then sell the upgrades as parts
With such low offers, Id rather keep it and enjoy it... and its not just mods, its maintenance work and care that has gone into this car. Receipts are not useless and hold some value.
I get it... Stock "high mileage" 996 are out there and are the bargain 996 that everyone should be looking for, but a rebuilt 3.8L 996.1 shouldn't be lumped in with the rest.
Anyways, like I said it will stay in my garage and continue to be built into the car I want.
Lowballers never had a 10K + repair bill at the shop, had paint correction, PPF, Just cheap coil overs and old bushings.
By the way, what is your lowest dollar cash price? I normally pay people in bananas, lately eggs...
While trying to sell my Cayman I find the market is the similar to a Knowledge Pyramid style diagram, as you go up in knowledge the segment thins and also the people who have the money and want what you have done.
Finally had a chance to head up the mountain this past Friday and it was a nice trip up. Took it at a casual 6/10. I don’t normally do the typical gas station pic, but in this case I decided to as there’s a lot of gems in the background.
I wanted to cruise behind the 365GT so I could hear the Ferrari V12, but he was driving too slow and waved me by, and remember I was only going at 6/10…
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On the way up I made sure to snap the obligatory 996 mileage pic just before crossing 108k
Im nearly at 2 years of ownership so that means Im averaging 4k miles per year. Good times. The cool guys were at a parking lot in Orange County (@ AutoKennel), so the crowd was thinner but still some great cars.
Quick question for you- I noticed your throttle body isn't mounted to the anti-vibration mount and looks like it is lowered against the engine block. Did you make this adjustment as part of fitting the UAOS? I can't tell from your prior pics if it was alreadty like that. My mechanic had to lower the throttle body in relation to the block to allow for the UOAS flow regulator to fit. This may have been due to my over heighetning the engine when i replace the motor mounts, or it's just the nature of the cable driven early 996s and less room up there.
I'm probably going to try and readjust the heights, but just curious about yours, since it looks like mine now.
Hey Everyone,
Nearly a month later and Im still here. My buddy was also in town so I let him borrow the E30 to take up to GVBC and I met him there later on in the 911.
Luckily the photographer that was up there also got some pics of me and my buddies so I saved them all
I asked my buddies for a 'drive-by' pic when I had to leave and he got this shot...
Bonus pic of the E30
Been busy clearing out the other distractions in the house. I bought this E30 last year with full intention of reselling this year. I had originally planned to rent it out for a few months, but with the new kiddo in the house there is even less time for cars so I have decided to list it on Bring a Trailer while its still in the 90-day smog transfer window for CA Residents.
Had a busy day and got a lot of work done, so I settled down in the garage after all the girls were asleep and enjoyed a Cigar...
"Monthly" Update
E30 auction went well and the garage is less packed now! Of course my pocket is a little heavier and I've been tempted again to make the jump to an aircooled. Decided I should spend some more time behind the wheel of the 996, especially going to see these temptations and naturally the 996 is showing just how good it is.
First was to see fellow 996 owner and lover, Scott Kelly's 72 "RS Targa" Its a lovely 50+ year old Targa that is powered by a 964 3.6L motor and a 915 gearbox. Expectations were relatively low, but it was a lovely little car. Its more of a driving project, which is absolutely dangerous for a hopeless romantic like myself.
Had to snap a few pics of the two next to each other
Yesterday I attended the C&C at Griffith Park and theres always a various collection of cars. Kiddo loves going because she gets half a donut & to play in the park before we head to Church.
I loved this 964, it appears it began life as a Tip, but was manual swapped...
I liked this angle, another tale of the tail...
Oh it is, bidding on a Elan FHC on BaT right now, but probably wont go much higher... I really should put the money into this car and the Cossie 16v thats collecting dust in front of my house
Its May, so new month update?
Scotts car has found a new home!... I think... but not mine, so that's good for my wallet. Realizing time is flying and were nearly half way through the year with no real driving events completed I headed over to motorsportreg to see what could work with the schedule. I really want to make another trek up north for either another Laguna Seca HPDE, or perhaps crossing another track off the bucket list: Sonoma. That's a little harder logistically and so when I noticed that there was a track day at Buttonwillow on their new track I figured I would check the calendar. Wouldn't ya know it, the date was open! Knowing I would need to tread carefully with my wife because the next day is Mothers Day, I sent a feeler out and luckily I convinced her that we could do more family stuff on Mothers Day together because I would be out playing "Porsche race-car-guy" the day before!
Not really much to do on the car, I have a Brey-Krause harness bar that I want to use, but I still haven't purchased harnesses so that will sit in the garage. I do think I will install the muffler deletes because race-car!...Should be a fun video
Stay tuned!
If you go back to post 211 & 212 you will see my own version of muffler deletes that I have made. They have an added muffler/ resonator so I affectionately call them 'Sporty Shorty mufflers"
Yes, they are still loud. However the weight loss is worth it, especially when I plan to hustle the car around a track. How long until I take them back off, we'll see. Being a weekend/ canyon car its not the worst to enjoy the car un-corked. If this was my daily, I wouldnt bother.
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