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But I also noticed that when the car is warm, changing from 2nd to 3rd and to 4th, with the car moving, I dont need to press the clutch until the end - a 60% - 70% press is more than enough and the gear changes smoothly and no problem.
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But I also noticed that when the car is warm, changing from 2nd to 3rd and to 4th, with the car moving, I dont need to press the clutch until the end - a 60% - 70% press is more than enough and the gear changes smoothly and no problem.
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What about the changes when the oil is hot enough ?
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It sounds like your clutch may be a bit worn, but not worth changing yet.
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Whilst I'm no expert on the Porsche internals I do know it's actually possible to drive without using the clutch entirely.
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But I also noticed that when the car is warm, changing from 2nd to 3rd and to 4th, with the car moving, I dont need to press the clutch until the end - a 60% - 70% press is more than enough and the gear changes smoothly and no problem.
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But I also noticed that when the car is warm, changing from 2nd to 3rd and to 4th, with the car moving, I dont need to press the clutch until the end - a 60% - 70% press is more than enough and the gear changes smoothly and no problem.
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I posted this on the PCGB but people are not answering, maybe better luck here ?
I have a 996 turbo and its my first Porsche and also a manual gear car ( for some odd reason here and there, my last 3 cars were automatic )
One thing I noticed with the Porsche is the "travel" of the clutch is quite big - ie, you press it and goes quite far.With the car cold, I have to press it till the very end to avoid grinding on 1st and 2nd and go smootly with the gear changes. But with the car hot is fine - this by many people is considered normal, pcgb, ex owner, even porsche uk.
But I also noticed that when the car is warm, changing from 2nd to 3rd and to 4th, with the car moving, I dont need to press the clutch until the end - a 60% - 70% press is more than enough and the gear changes smoothly and no problem. Is this ok ? Or Im "eating" the clutch ? I also noticed that when the car is "hot", if I press the clutch hard, I can "feel" the transmission in the very end of the pedal - seems rough. So what is the appropriate ? Press all the way or half of it ?
Any help apreciated
It sounds like your clutch may be a bit worn, but not worth changing yet. Mine has been like that for about 20k miles!
I found I got used to it with time.
Make sure you are quite gentle with the car when it is still cold after starting- don't over-rev it, and gently ease the gearchanges through until the gearbox oil is warm.
Cheers Robert !
What about the changes when the oil is hot enough ? Should I still be vigorous with the clutch ( pressing until the end ) or a 60/70% press ( not until the end ) is ok ?
Sorry for the silly questions and thanks again for answering !
Hi mate,
According to the hand book for my 996 c4 you should always completely press the clutch, i'm glad you mentioned being able to feel the gearbox if you touch the clutch slightly, i was concerned about this but its normal. I think that you just need to get used to different clutches, i had all the same concerns with my old boxster and now with my c4, only had it about a month but now getting used to it.
Apparently gears are stiff on 911's when cold cus of the type of oil, needs to warm up, as far as the clutch goes i found it took me ages to get my seating position right and time to get used to the clutch and adjust my driving now it feels good, i think you just need to get used to it.
Oh when i was reading my manual it says avoid holding your car on the clutch on hills etc. . . . (something that i'm quite guilty of), you must use the handbrake, holding on clutch is really bad for it.
How are you finding you car otherwise??
I was just looking at you pic an your car looks the same as mine!! you just got a turbo you swine ! !!! lol. . . however i'm not complaining at the performance on my c4 she's pretty rapid.
As per the "official" guide from dstyrrell you will be kinder to the car if you fully depress the clutch even when warm. However, that is not to say it is horrendous to semi-depress and you should be sent to prison for crimes against porsche...
Whilst I'm no expert on the Porsche internals I do know it's actually possible to drive without using the clutch entirely. In fact on my old 306 Gti6 I managed to drive home over 150 miles without a clutch on the advice from the RAC bloke. This included starting from standstill and negotiating lights - certainly a challenge and a real test in reading the road. The trick is getting the revs correct for the next gearing....
Not sure this really answers your question as you wouldn't want to do this every day! But I guess if you can drive that far like that without destroying a flimsy piece of French clutter you have a good chance that your 70/80% clutch depression isn't going to kill the Porsche tomorrow
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