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Install light weight single mass flywheel

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The 3.8 "S" vibration damper is good for street/track cars that have removed the dual mass flywheel and have installed a light weight single mass flywheel that has no vibration absorption at all...

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Replace belt

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Also, don't forget to let the loctite on the tensioner roller bolt cure before attempting to replace the belt.

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Run single mass flywheel

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It will also fit on a 3.4 or 3.6 and I have recommended it for those who run a single mass flywheel but I don't think the word gets around....

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The 3.8 "S" vibration damper is good for street/track cars that have removed the dual mass flywheel and have installed a light weight single mass flywheel that has no vibration absorption at all...

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Also, don't forget to let the loctite on the tensioner roller bolt cure before attempting to replace the belt.

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Run single mass flywheel

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It will also fit on a 3.4 or 3.6 and I have recommended it for those who run a single mass flywheel but I don't think the word gets around....

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

This is what I am seeing right now. Notice the lower idle pulley has "simply disappeared" and the mechanic put the belt back on. WTF ?

POST 2Original post

Yikes! I assume you'll be looking for a new shop?

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 20030407

Five miles or five minute warranty! But I don't know if it would make it that long.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 20030368

Nasty. Hope the owner is willing to spend a couple of dollars refreshing parts.

POST 6Original post

I'll play the devils advocate here... Not knowing the history behind this, couple of off the wall thoughts.... Could be the pulley just fell apart like that and thats the end results, belt never fell off...??? Or, a scary thought, but maybe the tech responsible for this didn't realize the pulley was even damaged and thought it was good to go. We do have some exceptionally special techs out there.

POST 7Original post

As a tech, I suspect @yelcab sees quite a bit of negligence and/or ignorance.

POST 8Original post

Another reason to 86 those plastic idler pulleys. You are going to want a new belt as well. I ditched the plastic pulley when its surface got crenellated after a couple thousand miles. I replaced it with a billet version made in the USA so no tariff! See comparison below.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 20030368

This is precisely why I am the only person who services and repairs my vehicles�.. just WOW!!

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 20030556

who makes this one?

POST 11Original post

Rauch and Spiegel https://www.rauchandspiegel.com/prod...-belt-pulleys/

POST 12Original post

I guess the "mechanic" thought that Porsche "knew what they were doing " in designing that lower idler ....

POST 13Original post

Surely that just broke up and somehow the belt stayed on? no one would be that stupid otherwise?

POST 14Original post

Does the OP (or anyone else) know what's up the crankshaft pulley? It looks like it has some kind of harmonic/vibration dampener on it which I've never seen before. A Tip thing maybe?

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 20030899

Definitely looks heavy compared to my stock one.... I think Slakker racing were saying that an underdrive pulley was a good add on for the 996! A bit more power

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 20030899

The 997.1 3.8 "S" engine have that vibration damper on them ... It will also fit on a 3.4 or 3.6 and I have recommended it for those who run a single mass flywheel but I don't think the word gets around....

POST 18Original post

come on guys, lower rotating mass, just like the underdrive pulley. they are going for more horsepower!

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 20030967

I didn�t realize it fit so I def missed it. I know RSS sells a dampened unit too.

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 20030967

Whats your opinion on a underdrive pulley for the 996...? Like the RSS. Or is the 3.8 S VB the best solution..?

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 20030556

Thats a pretty pulley!

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 20032046

I don't want ANY underdrive pulley on my street/track car...it slows down the alternator, water pump, A/C Compressor, things I like on the street/traffic, yea it saves a little HP and is good for cars that run at 4-7K RPM all day long... The 3.8 "S" vibration damper is good for street/track cars that have removed the dual mass flywheel and have installed a light weight single mass flywheel that has no vibration absorption at all...

POST 23Original post

Quotes source post: 20030863

Know the price? It's not listed.

POST 24Original post

Quotes source post: 20032324

LN sells them, looking for the link now.

POST 25Original post

I bought metal pulleys from Autoatlanta a few years ago. U just have to scroll through their options.

POST 26Original post

I got this Pelican pulley kit a couple years ago for $150. Its all metal rollers with *** bearings iirr... https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_In...-KIT4-HBT&fc=Y

POST 27Original post

Quotes source post: 20032272

Makes perfect sense, thanks Skip...

POST 28Original post

Just make sure to take it slow and easy with that lower idle roller when removing it. Also, don't forget to let the loctite on the tensioner roller bolt cure before attempting to replace the belt. If the bolt spins, you'll be hard pressed to get full tension. Some guys have welded the bolt to the bracket on the tensioner to prevent this.

POST 29 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 20033616

I am the "some guy" ...

POST 30Original post

Quotes source posts: 20032324, 20032331

They seem to be +/- about double the cost of plastic. I found the 3 of them ~$100 cheaper 'on sale' at AutohausAZ. Ordered yesterday and they got here today. Seem to be well made. https://www.autohausaz.com/catalog?v...age=1&sortby=r

POST 31Original post

Quotes source post: 20034744

A simple tensioner for $170 USD! Jeez, you guys know how to blow the $$$ I'll stick with an OEM for $60 thanks

POST 33Original post

Quotes source post: 20033650

It's a shame you aren't near GA, I would be happy to have you weld mine.

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