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I have had to replace my BMW windshield about every 5 years due to cinder impact cracking and get windshield dings repaired about every other year.
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The run-flat tires have saved me several times in the winter, once with a screw in the tread and once with a nail, where I was able to safely drive to the local tire shop and have the tires repaired without having to change a tire on the highway shoulder that has piles of snow from the plow.
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The run-flat tires have saved me several times in the winter, once with a screw in the tread and once with a nail, where I was able to safely drive to the local tire shop and have the tires repaired without having to change a tire on the highway shoulder that has piles of snow from the plow.
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The run-flat tires have saved me several times in the winter, once with a screw in the tread and once with a nail, where I was able to safely drive to the local tire shop and have the tires repaired without having to change a tire on the highway shoulder that has piles of snow from the plow.
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I have 18" UHP all-season
tires
(
Continental ExtremeContact
DWS06 Plus)
tires
on my
987.1
Cayman
. My driveway had about 2"-3" of snow and I couldn't make it out! I managed to slide it back into the garage somehow.
My
Audi
S3 on the same
tires
(but 19" wheels) had no issues at all on the same driveway and snow. I think my S3 lulled me into a false sense of security, because I've even parked it on foot high snowbanks and gotten myself out with a little wiggling. The S3 has the Haldex system, so not even a full time AWD.
Can I fix this with winter
tires
, like this one?
https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/car/tires/vikingcontact-7/
(these come in the stock 17" 987.1 sizes). Or this this an issue of being RWD?
Relatedly, how does the Macan fare on snowy driveways? I was planning to trade my S3 in for a Macan soon but am now having second thoughts.
My first car was a 1973 vw beetle, driven in Alaska. A 2wd rear biased engine layout can absolutely get around in the snow. Having said that,
tires
, being your contact patch, are the single biggest contributor to your car’s ability to get around. The best winter
tires
I’ve experienced (although, TBH, it’s been a while now that I live in California), are Nokian winter
tires
.
Now here is my somewhat unconventional hot tak: 4WD gives a false sense of security in the winter. It masks traction issues. ALL cars are 4 wheel stop, so having 4 wheel go doesn’t make it any safer. I do absolutely concede that 4WD can make life a little easier, though, but I wouldn’t hesitate to drive my
Cayman
in the snow (with proper
tires
, that is).
Assuming you want to keep your
Cayman
, as well as drive it in the winter where you have snow, a 2nd set of wheels with dedicated winter
tires
(can you even do studded?) is the best way to go.
I used to run
Michelin
Pilot Alpins on my former 987.1S. I'm getting even better winter performance driving on
Michelin
X-Ice these days on my
987.2
. Love them, and they're battle tested both on steep icy/snowy winter roads in the dead of NH February winter and in the Boston area.
You'll hear me say it repeatedly to everyone -- Ditch your A/S
tires
in favor of dedicated summer
tires
(
Michelin PS4S
for the win for aggressive street driving) and experience what makes our cars so special per the incredible handling. Then, put together a dedicated winter tire/wheel set and enjoy the cars year round. If you've got a
Boxster
, hunt down a removable hard top. You'll thank me later.
At this point I just want to get my
Cayman
out of my driveway with the same ease as my S3, and I'm annoyed that my S3 does it effortlessly on the same Continental DWS06 all-seasons that I have on my
Cayman
(testament to some new-age electronic wizardry, or maybe just +500 lbs. of weight).
And I leave my S3 parked outside (one car garage), so its
tires
are starting out colder too.
But I guess my old
Cayman
needs some help. I'm going to go summer + winter this season onwards, I'm glad to hear that it works in practice for you! I'm also going to stay on 18" for winter
tires
, the tire selection seems much better.
There are tons of videos on YT showing that snow
tires
are FAR better than AWD and AS
tires
. If you're having issues with AS
tires
, then you need snows, period.
That said, I found my
Boxster
was surprisingly good in the snow - I drove it through a snowstorm in Vermont on the
Bridgestone
980AS
tires
that I got it with, and it did damn well. On other cars, I've had DWS and no issues - they are GREAT snow
tires
(for an AS).
But, our Jetta runs
Blizzaks
and is really phenomenal in the snow with those. And we have a STEEP driveway (I think I calculated a 9% grade at some point, but I forget). Neither the
Porsche
nor the Jetta were ever stuck. The BoltEV (with EV
tires
) had lots of issues, though... it was left on the driveway at least 3 times last year.
How old are your DWS on the
Porsche
? If the
tires
are old, they will harden and be terrible in the snow. The Jetta had ancient (7 year old)
tires
on it, and was miserable with them even in the rain. The new DWS on it are noticeably better, and we haven't even had snow yet (Central CT).
If you have manual transmission, try starting out in 2nd gear. I don't know if a tiptronic will allow that, but I suspect it will. With a light right foot you can avoid tire spin
The DWS are a year old (January 2024), maybe 10,000 miles. But the ones on my
Cayman
are as old as the DWS's on my S3, and my S3 didn't have any issues even after sitting out in the cold!
I'm going to get snow
tires
and report back.
What is the ground clearance on the S3? Without even measuring, I know the clearance on my
987.1
is minimal, as I’m sure the
Cayman
is similar. If your front undercarriage is pushing a bow wave of snow, or just dragging the underbody, that drag may have a significant effect. It will reduce the
tires
contact patch on the road surface.
I’ve had similar issues with RWD in the snow, and switching to winter
tires
like the VikingContact 7 will definitely help. All-season
tires
like the ones you have just aren’t made for snow; winter
tires
have a much better grip in those conditions. I’ve found that even my AWD cars with decent all-seasons can struggle in heavy snow, but once I put proper winter
tires
on, it made a huge difference. As for the
Macan
, it’s AWD, so it should perform better than your S3 or
Cayman
, especially with winter
tires
. I’ve driven a few AWD SUVs in snow, and they handled it a lot better than RWD, so I think it could be a good move for you.
Good to hear, I'm definitely going to test drive a
Macan
in the snow before buying one! I'm going for the VikingContact7
tires
for my
Cayman
, looking forward to being back on the road soon. Good thing I was stuck in my driveway and not out on the interstate during an unexpected snowstorm.
I have a
987.1
S on the same DWS06s and I can go up a packed snowy hill no problem. However I cannot go through any depth of fresh snow due to ground clearance. I also have a
Macan
on DWS06s and I switch those out for snow
tires
in winter. I have worn out two sets of
Michelin
Alpins very quickly and so decided to switch to Vredestein Wintrac Pros. So far so good. The
Macan
is good in the snow but still needs Winters in my opinion and I have gotten it stuck in deep snow. And pulled out some other people with a rope. Still a good snow car! Carry a shovel
987 or 997 are low slung sports cars and have low ground clearance. With proper winter
tires
they will perform well on icy/slick surfaces but will struggle when snow accumulates. I have a
997.2
4S and run dedicated
Pirelli
Sottozeros during winter months but only venture out when snow accumulation is low on the ground on plowed roads. Get winter
tires
and enjoy
Michelin Cross Climate 2
is an all season tire with the 3 peaks indicating Snow and Ice performance. They're great all around
tires
that have performers well in Chicago winters on a rear wheel drive 01
BMW
525iT and are not a penalty tire in the summer.
+1 for the Continental Viking Contact 7,they're great winter
tires
. If you go summer/winter
tires
, my
06 Cayman S
loves the
Bridgestone
RE71-RS.
Good luck!
All-season
tires
are NOT all-weather
tires
. If you regularly encounter snow, especially in an RWD car, you need snow-rated
tires
with this rating:
Severe Snow Service Rated: Yes
I live in the mountains of Colorado where I drive a BMW X1 AWD with 4 Severe Snow Service Rated tires in the winter. I have never gotten close to being stuck in snow (we get 300+"/year). My driveway pavement is not visible from December to April. My preferred tires are Michelin and Bridgestone, complicated by the fact that my BMW uses run-flat tires with no spare. The run-flat tires have saved me several times in the winter, once with a screw in the tread and once with a nail, where I was able to safely drive to the local tire shop and have the tires repaired without having to change a tire on the highway shoulder that has piles of snow from the plow.
I considered a set of narrower wheels with snow tires for my Cayman, but ultimately decided the amount of cinders spread on the highways in CO would damage the paint and windshield. I have had to replace my BMW windshield about every 5 years due to cinder impact cracking and get windshield dings repaired about every other year.
The low ground clearance on the Cayman also made me decide not to go with winter tires.
In Switzerland, mountain towns are full of AWD 911s with ski racks in the winter, but not a Cayman in sight.
Phew I can't imagine not driving my
Cayman
for half the year! And +1 on the windshield, I replaced mine a few months ago. Thankfully the windshield replacement uncovered some surface rust underneath the windshield (the 993 folks deal with this a lot!) that dealership scraped off and inhibited before it got out of hand. I'm looking forward to testing out my
Cayman
with snow
tires
soon.
I logged 13 winters daily commuting in my ‘07 987 in northern NY. I’m in my second winter with my
981
. Both cars ran 18’s. 60lb sand snake in the back with criss-crossed heavy rubber bungees holding it down. I had to face my choice of two mountains every day to get out of town. If the first 13 winters were terrible, I wouldn’t have signed up for the
981
. I have adjusted sizes as skinny as possible. For the
981
, I’m on 215 and 245/50-18’s. On the 987 I ran 215 and 235/45-18’s. I look forward to winter and have loved the
Cayman
(s) as daily drivers.
Michelin
Pilot Alpins on my
Cayman
get great traction in 2-3 inches of snow... if it struggles getting up a hill, I turn off PSM and it slings snow out the back but never gets stuck!