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Check !) regards, paul 2004 c2 40th anniversary

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Mike, I bought the shifter new - It was just over £110 with the Club discount via the local OPC (just over 3 years ago now that I've checked!) Regards, Paul 2004 C2 40th Anniversary

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Install few years now (&gt

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I've had mine fitted for a few years now (>20,000 miles) & it still feels great / better than the 996 standard shifter - at significantly lower cost than some of the short-shifters.

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Much more positive (due to metal, not plastic, bearings) without being more effort to change gear.

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20% shorter equals 20% more force needed to change gear.

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It certainly didn't do this when Tom at 911V was showing me how he could change gear with one finger on the lever thanks to the hydraulic clutch mechanism which is much lighter than my old C4S.

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Replace they spend loads of time racing thats good enough

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This gearshfit has the same characterisitcs as the 996 it requries more effort when cold particularly into 3 rd when new it was better than the 996 version.The sloppiness is rather vagueness when changing up particulalry from 2 nd to 3rd change to quickly(it is not a patch on my mk3 r32 for feel) and you could graunch the synchros it is a characteristic of the cars rather the g50 gearbox of which all subsequent designs are derived ( I was told by Tony Wright you shouldnt really be trying to hussle the gears one it can be very expensive and you should wait to go to third to allow the lever to centralise first then push into third) the shifter on the 997 ss is better made than the 996 version.

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Check !) regards, paul 2004 c2 40th anniversary

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Mike, I bought the shifter new - It was just over £110 with the Club discount via the local OPC (just over 3 years ago now that I've checked!) Regards, Paul 2004 C2 40th Anniversary

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I've had mine fitted for a few years now (>20,000 miles) & it still feels great / better than the 996 standard shifter - at significantly lower cost than some of the short-shifters.

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Replace gear

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Suggestion

Much more positive (due to metal, not plastic, bearings) without being more effort to change gear.

Short shifter

Suggestion

20% shorter equals 20% more force needed to change gear.

Short shifter

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It certainly didn't do this when Tom at 911V was showing me how he could change gear with one finger on the lever thanks to the hydraulic clutch mechanism which is much lighter than my old C4S.

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Replace they spend loads of time racing thats good enough

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This gearshfit has the same characterisitcs as the 996 it requries more effort when cold particularly into 3 rd when new it was better than the 996 version.The sloppiness is rather vagueness when changing up particulalry from 2 nd to 3rd change to quickly(it is not a patch on my mk3 r32 for feel) and you could graunch the synchros it is a characteristic of the cars rather the g50 gearbox of which all subsequent designs are derived ( I was told by Tony Wright you shouldnt really be trying to hussle the gears one it can be very expensive and you should wait to go to third to allow the lever to centralise first then push into third) the shifter on the 997 ss is better made than the 996 version.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Can anyone tell if the short shifter is a worthwhile upgrade? Mike

POST 2Original post

IMO, the best upgrade to the standard 996 shift is the Gen2 997 shifter. Much more positive (due to metal, not plastic, bearings) without being more effort to change gear. Win on both fronts

POST 4Original post

The standard 997 shifter is reported to have a shorter throw than the 996 too. Double whammy!

POST 5Original post

I would have thought that a shorter throw requires that much mote effort to move I.e. 20% shorter equals 20% more force needed to change gear. Also I've heard good things about the gt3 997 short shift kit. it also has metal bearing and apparently is a rifle bolt kind of change. This is the one I'm going to go for when I'm next allowed to spend money on the car (£900 on wheels and tyres last month so I'm easing off for a couple of months).

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Looks like 997 is the route to go. I'm surprised she knows how much you spend on the car Chris!

POST 7Original post

I had a factory 996 short shift on the turbo when I got it it had done 19,000 miles it felt sloppy and required effort when cold. I changed to the 997 SS it has been a considerable improvement but has now done 20,000 miles again just feels vague/sloppy. This gearshfit has the same characterisitcs as the 996 it requries more effort when cold particularly into 3 rd when new it was better than the 996 version.The sloppiness is rather vagueness when changing up particulalry from 2 nd to 3rd change to quickly(it is not a patch on my mk3 r32 for feel) and you could graunch the synchros it is a characteristic of the cars rather the g50 gearbox of which all subsequent designs are derived ( I was told by Tony Wright you shouldnt really be trying to hussle the gears one it can be very expensive and you should wait to go to third to allow the lever to centralise first then push into third) the shifter on the 997 ss is better made than the 996 version.I love my driving and I love a manual but this still doesnt feel as instinctive to me as it should A SS is a compromise and to me it seems more of a fashion thing than a racing thing and TBH that is what these cars are about.I will be changing to the 997.2 gt3 shifter it looks considerably better made i think it will deliver a better gearchnage experience, it is longer but I just dont think you will notice how long the lever is or how short the throw as you'll be to busy enjoying the gear change lots of other afficiandos have already done this Fearnsport told me this was a de rigour change, they spend loads of time racing thats good enough for me.Ps dont fit cup cables unless you are racing they are noisy

POST 9Original post

Definite improvement over standard, more precise and quicker gear changes.

POST 10Original post

I can confirm this is a good solution for a 996. I've had mine fitted for a few years now (>20,000 miles) & it still feels great / better than the 996 standard shifter - at significantly lower cost than some of the short-shifters. Travel is reduced by ~15%. Paul 2004 C2 40th Anniversary

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Paul, can I ask if you bought second hand or new? Mike

POST 12Original post

standard gen2 997 shifter does not have metal bushings any gen 1 or gen 2 997 shifter is shorter than the 996

POST 13Original post

Mike, I bought the shifter new - It was just over £110 with the Club discount via the local OPC (just over 3 years ago now that I've checked!) Regards, Paul 2004 C2 40th Anniversary

POST 14Original post

Very interesting. I have had my 2002 Turbo with about 50k miles on it for just over a month now and have crunched several 2nd to 3rd gear changes. I assumed it was my fault but perhaps I can blame the car afterall. It certainly didn't do this when Tom at 911V was showing me how he could change gear with one finger on the lever thanks to the hydraulic clutch mechanism which is much lighter than my old C4S.

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