7 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW
Discussion summary
YOUR RESEARCHRadiator bracket/impossible screw
Leading reported evidence
Use finger sander
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
very common on undertrays and i either have to drill it out or i use a finger sander which is a sanding belt on a " gun " to wear it down .
Leading evidence: 'Use finger sander' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace on my 2004 turbo' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
I use Plusgas, but you need to get it on the threads behind the plastic.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
99650415600) that i am trying to replace on my 2004 turbo.
Use hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver)
Suggestion or failed attempt
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
All I can really add is to suggest cutting a slot in the head and trying to use a screw driver, or nicking the edge and trying to knock it round using a hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver).
Use hand ratchet first rather than gunning them out
Suggestion or failed attempt
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
Try a good 1/4 drive first then a 3/8 and use a hand ratchet first rather than gunning them out.
Use hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver)
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
All I can really add is to suggest cutting a slot in the head and trying to use a screw driver, or nicking the edge and trying to knock it round using a hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver).
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
All I can really add is to suggest cutting a slot in the head and trying to use a screw driver, or nicking the edge and trying to knock it round using a hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver).
Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.
7 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.
911uk: 1 discussions
0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.
2 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.
Hi all,
I have a terribly rusted radiator bracket ( part9
99650415600) that i am trying to replace on my 2004 turbo.
I am coming up against this final screw that wont move and would appreciate any tips. I think the bracket backs onto a plastic part here which might affect some solutions.
I am also wondering if its a security torx and not a regular torx.
P.s. its been soaked in pbb with no change.
Many thanks in advance for any help
Regards
Karl
That will be a normal Torx and either T25 or T30 .. these often round out im afraid .. very common on undertrays and i either have to drill it out or i use a finger sander which is a sanding belt on a " gun " to wear it down .
Use a small screwdriver to scrap away the inside of the Torx to get the best possible grip then pray .. sorry ... there is no easy answer on things like this .
Make sure you drive the socket right in, often the rust stops it going right home and makes rounding off inevitable. Also the shock from banging the socket in often helps. Try a good 1/4 drive first then a 3/8 and use a hand ratchet first rather than gunning them out.
Rusted fasteners are so annoying!!
Thanks for the help both.
Seems things start with cleaning it up a bit to get better traction.
What do you think on using a product before screwdriver/wire brush/hammering in the socket. Something like bilt deox gel:
https://bilthamber.com/product/deox-gel/
Also any favoured penetrating oils...i have pb blaster (this doesnt seem to have done much) and plus gas (arriving tomorrow).
Do screwextractor bits have much success here?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-BSPE6D-12-Piece-Spiral-Extractor/dp/B07G1M1TQG
Finally demort...where you mention drilling/finger sander...is this when you have to give up and basically destroy it? Would a dremel work here too?
Thanks again for all the help
Regards,
Karl
Basically you need to scrape out as much rust as possible to get the torx fixing to penetrate as far into the screw as possible .. a small screwdriver or a pick .. an additive .. i can't say but i wouldn't waste my time on that to be honest .
Lube has never worked for me but no harm in trying .
If when trying to undo it just rounds out .. then we cut it .. a dremel .. finger sander which is what i use or a drill .. either way you are trying to cut the head off the screw .. cut the center and the washer part will come off .. after that you can often undo the remaining screw by hand or with pliers ..
If not then lever the entire clip off with a screwdriver .
Yes you will be replacing it with something .. correct items or a nut / bolt and washers .
997 undertrays have the best part of 30 of these .. i can " burn " off many to get an undertray off .. to the point i will sometimes ask in the office if i should do this ..
We take undertrays off as part of a Major service .. it's not something that needs to be done but if the fixings are this corroded then i get permission first as each fixing adds up !!!
EDIT .. don't bother with the amazon kit .. of no use here .
I have had success in the past with using a very abrasive paste in badly corroded fixings, i was first introduced to this by one of the engineers i work with. It provides extra friction to whatever driver you are using......
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liqui-Moly...62&hvtargid=pla-349016040170&psc=1&th=1&psc=1
..... every little helps!
Lots of help above.
All I can really add is to suggest cutting a slot in the head and trying to use a screw driver, or nicking the edge and trying to knock it round using a hammer and chisel (or all purpose screw driver).
What you need to do is break the corrosion between the screw and (presumably) the speed nut it's screwed in to. Ironically these can be more trouble than screws into a steel component because the speed nut moves around a bit and 'damps" your attempts to break the screw free.
Soaking with penetrant is worthwhile. I use Plusgas, but you need to get it on the threads behind the plastic. Can you attack from the other side?
My last resort would be drilling it out. You can then remove the component and sort the rest out on the bench.
One last thing, as you try to undo the screw, put at least as much effort into pushing the bit into the head of the screw as you do trying to turn it. You may find as it starts to turn the threads strip and it doesn't withdraw. If this happens, wedge something between the screw and what it's screwed into and lever it out whilst turning to get the threads to engage.
Oh and plenty of good luck!
This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.