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The batteries in my TPMS sensors are dead so I've ordered some replacements. Does anyone know what the procedure is to get these talking to the car? Will I need to go to dealer or will it just 'learn' nearby sensors? I suspect the former but hope for the latter.

What Porsche is it? on the gen 2 997 and gen2 Cayman/Boxster then you change the batteries and then go into the TPMS setting and set it to re-learn

There is a setting up procedure, I found mine in the hand book . The car learns from the travelling of the wheel can take a few miles before it calibrates itself. No need for a trip to dealers

craigjm said: What Porsche is it? on the gen 2 997 and gen2 Cayman/Boxster then you change the batteries and then go into the TPMS setting and set it to re-learn It's an old Cayenne, I'm told the sensor batteries can't be changed. Lordglenmorangie said: There is a setting up procedure, I found mine in the hand book . The car learns from the travelling of the wheel can take a few miles before it calibrates itself. No need for a trip to dealers Sounds straightforward to re-learn then, I'll give that it go. Cheers.

Thought I might revive this thread as my first sensor has just failed at 6.5 years. Any recommendations for where to buy the sensors complete with new valves? 2007 997.1 S

The dealer, of course, but I expect the parts specialists do them as well. The real issue is the wheels have to come off the car and the tyres off the wheels with re-balancing which is a nightmare if you have centre locks. if your tyres are close to being changed, do them both at the same time. Other side of the coin: if you need new tyres and the sensors are more than 6 years old, swap the sensors at the same time.

blueSL said: The dealer, of course, but I expect the parts specialists do them as well. The real issue is the wheels have to come off the car and the tyres off the wheels with re-balancing which is a nightmare if you have centre locks. if your tyres are close to being changed, do them both at the same time. Other side of the coin: if you need new tyres and the sensors are more than 6 years old, swap the sensors at the same time. Fitting isn't a problem. I have my own tyre changer and balancer and haven't needed anyone to fit my tyres for many years, though not centre locks which I am fortunate not to have! I have found 1 aftermarket supplier but wonder if anyone has any other ideas or experience of the supposed OE equivalents at a fraction of the OPC price.

Just replaced mine on my 997.1 turbo. Seached the net Uk, Europe&USA and ended up replacing with a generic clones of the original Beru sensors called I-sensor which were £55 each fitted at my local Protyre this included the rebalancing and vat. OPC wanted £670 +vat. I have the old sensors on my desk I have tried to dig out the battery and given up its not just a case of digging out the encapsulating sealant as once you remove all that the printed circuit board is blocking access to the battery and that is also sealed in place.

RAWENG said: Just replaced mine on my 997.1 turbo. Seached the net Uk, Europe&USA and ended up replacing with a generic clones of the original Beru sensors called I-sensor which were £55 each fitted at my local Protyre this included the rebalancing and vat. OPC wanted £670 +vat. I have the old sensors on my desk I have tried to dig out the battery and given up its not just a case of digging out the encapsulating sealant as once you remove all that the printed circuit board is blocking access to the battery and that is also sealed in place. Thanks a lot. Can you recall the supplier details and did they come with new valves? The Beru ones seem to be sensor only and i have not been able to find the valve as yet.

I got my replacements from here - http://www.rlauto.com/TPMS/ . They have the valves available too and everything was delivered the following day. Alternatively, you can get the official Beru ones direct from the US via TireRack, which is cheaper... See here Pistonheads New sensors should just be picked up by the car, but mine needed to be reset by OPC.

I-SENSORS are distributed by www.autogem.co.uk . They are OE equivalent , have the same battery life and same warranty

Thanks again guys. I think I will try the I-sensors. Did you get them directly from Autogem, RAWENG or via Protyre?

Yes the I-SENSORS came complete with valves. Be sure to fit the 43mm length valves

Just had this message from Autogem, so looks like I need to get their agent to clone the sensors before I fit them. Thank you for your enquiry. 2007 Porsche 911 S is using very early Beru RDE001 sensors and our i-sensor programmable sensors are compatible only in ID clone option. If you are still in possession of original sensors we can transfer ID’s from original sensors to our programmable sensors. Also if you are looking for fitting i-sensors in your car we can look for authorised garage in your area. If you have more questions regarding i-sensors please call me on 0208 838 0910 option 4 for TPMS support. Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 11:13

Now this. I’m assuming the reason you want to replace your original sensors is that they are dead (not transmitting any information any more). If yes we can’t use any scan tool to retrieve sensors ID’s so I’m afraid you will need to take them out and send ID’s to us before we start cloning procedure. ID’s are written on each sensor body. The most important thing is to remember wheel position for each unique ID. For example if you have taken out sensor from FL wheel and it’s got ID. XXXXXXXX when we copy this ID to new sensor, this sensor needs to be fitted back in FL wheel. Also some of the elements of the sensor need to be tighten up with correct torque so you will need special tools to fit them. 11 mm Hex nut needs to be tighten up to 4Nm. and T20 TORX screw needs to be tighten up to 2.2Nm. We got set of this tools in our offer as well. Looks like a set of originals will be the easiest way, if this is all correct. How the heck did you get yours done RAWENG?!

I took my car into Protyre a nationwide franchise and they cloned the sensors. I was also advised by my local Porsche centre not to buy even the OE Beru sensors on line as they would also need to be cloned to the originals or the car would not recognise them. If you have tyre removal facilities pull the bead of each tyre back and retrieve the numbers the supplier can then clone the sensors manually using the numbers that you have supplied. My sensors needed manual cloning as the batteries were dead thus the units were not transmitting their individual codes. Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper.

RAWENG said: Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper. My original sensors are just fine but I have now fitted new wheels and was considering adding TPM sensors to them. The car is a 2009 997 Gen1 Turbo, do you think this would have the later (2009 onward) sensors?

RAWENG said: I took my car into Protyre a nationwide franchise and they cloned the sensors. I was also advised by my local Porsche centre not to buy even the OE Beru sensors on line as they would also need to be cloned to the originals or the car would not recognise them. If you have tyre removal facilities pull the bead of each tyre back and retrieve the numbers the supplier can then clone the sensors manually using the numbers that you have supplied. My sensors needed manual cloning as the batteries were dead thus the units were not transmitting their individual codes. Later Porsche models 2009 onwards use a different sensor that does not need to be cloned to the original, they are also cheaper. Once more, thank you! I have asked for autogem's nearest agent so will try to go that way. If not it looks like I might need to have a look at each sensor and get the ids, then see how I progress. Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 12:32 Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th April 13:37

Only sure way to tell is to ask your OPC or contact www.autogem.co.uk with your vehicles vin number, let the experts advise you.

Right. After a number of e mails backwards and forwards with a very helpful Autogem, I have arranged to go to their local approved dealer. I have removed the failed sensor, which was quite easy to do, and he will clone it and scan and clone the other three, sending me home with 4 new sensors to fit. Autogem will supply the special torque tool for the sensor screw and valve collar at a reasonable price (looks quite a handy little tool). I will report back if anyone's interested. Thanks for everyone's help.

I just fitted new Beru RDE001 sensors on my 2006 Cayman S last week. I bought them from shoptpms.com in the USA - a set of four sensors with silver valve stems came to $396 / £242 including shipping, plus a further £43 at point of delivery for import duty, VAT and UPS brokerage fees. The car automatically detected the new sensors within about 10 to 15 minutes driving. It then threw up a warning of a possible wheel size change so I used the on board computer in the car to confirm the wheel size. This then required another few minutes for the car to re-learn the sensors, after which all now seems fine.

cheaper to buy in the UK from www.rlauto.com

RAWENG said: cheaper to buy in the UK from www.rlauto.com Unfortunately not true - they are over £90 more (total incl shipping £377 vs £285).

Oddly on that rlauto site if you look under gen 1 Carrera you get offered a generic alternative at £37.75. Look under the turbo and this option isn't listed. Yet both have the same OEM unit and part number. Must believe turbo owners are made of money. Edited by AndrewMontgomery on Tuesday 8th April 15:26

I cant find anything on there for the Cayenne. Do i just buy Tourag ones? I presume to get them fitted i need to take them to my local tyre place to rebalance the wheels?

Job done. Went round to local dealer yesterday after taking out the failed sensor. He manually cloned that one, scanned and cloned the three still working and off I went with 4 new assemblies. I fitted all the new sensors and valves today, car recognised them within a couple of hundred metres of driving, warning lights out and full display back. < £320 all in. BTW I checked the balance and the wheels were still spot on. The new sensor/valve assembly is within 2g of the old one.

Bump. Just doing some research on this as I may need to replace mine at some point - these guys also look good value for replacement TPMS units: https://www.tpmswarehouse.co.uk

Well, after biting the bullet and buying 4 OE Huf sensors after trying aftermarket, the bloody things still dont work!! Got the tyre fitter to plug in the OBD, read the sensors are working fine, saved the data on the OBD, went for a long drive and they still dont work. I reset them on the on board computer, even switching from summer to winter tyres and back but no readings at all and still the bloody dashboard light, agghhhh!!! I was told as they were originals I didn't need them cloned (and the OBD recognises them as OE sensors). I have spent a lot of money and time and still no better off. Anyone got any more idea's? I am really stuck now, and not sure what to try next?

I have one defective one on my 2010 997 Gen 2 Turbo S. I believe the new sensors have to be programmed with the serial number of the old sensors. Then number can be read electronically if the batteries are not dead or it is printed on the old sensor if you remove it. Apologies if you already know this.

London GT3 said: I have one defective one on my 2010 997 Gen 2 Turbo S. I believe the new sensors have to be programmed with the serial number of the old sensors. Then number can be read electronically if the batteries are not dead or it is printed on the old sensor if you remove it. Apologies if you already know this. I did wonder about this, but TPMS warehouse were assured they didn't need cloning. In need to do a bit more searching it seems.... Good luck when you get yours done, hope it goes better than my experience!

Cloning notwithstanding - does anybody have a list of compatible sensors (model manufacturer and codes) for Porsche 996 & 997? Boxster and Cayman gens 986/987 should follow suit one would think?

lingus75 said: I did wonder about this, but TPMS warehouse were assured they didn't need cloning. In need to do a bit more searching it seems.... Good luck when you get yours done, hope it goes better than my experience! Hi mate - I bought my Huf/Beru ones for my old 997.1 turbo from TPMS.com in the U.S much cheaper than what the OPC wanted even after shipping and duty - just make sure you got the 433mhz ones - I dont think that changed for the gen2. I got a tyre place to replace them for me and what I will say is be patient - it took almost 20/30 miles before they were 'learned' by the system my initial thought was they had not worked properly.I ordered the whole thing new valves and sensors by the way there was no serial number or anything that had to be jotted down or replaced they only work off a radio signal into the car's electronics. Maybe at an OPC they can be plugged into work by the PIWIS system instantly. Edited by berty37 on Monday 14th March 08:09

Ok i've done a spot of digging and the following model from TPMS Warehouse covers the Porsche TPMS codes below: MobileTron TX-S003 https://www.tpmswarehouse.co.uk/ready-to-fit-tpms-... Compatible with PORSCHE TPMS codes 7PP 907 275, 7PP 907 275F, 955 606 021 00, 997 606 021 20 £49.95 each incl VAT - has to one of cheapest out there from what I can see. Emailed TPMS Warehouse and a reply came back from MobileTron so the site could be owned by the manufacturer. Model above confirmed for Gen2 911 GT3 - would surely be fine for all Gen2's, but just use the above codes if unsure. According to the blurb these are the 'self-learning variety' although whether that actually works may depend more on the age of your vehicle.

berty37 said: lingus75 said: I did wonder about this, but TPMS warehouse were assured they didn't need cloning. In need to do a bit more searching it seems.... Good luck when you get yours done, hope it goes better than my experience! Hi mate - I bought my Huf/Beru ones for my old 997.1 turbo from TPMS.com in the U.S much cheaper than what the OPC wanted even after shipping and duty - just make sure you got the 433mhz ones - I dont think that changed for the gen2. I got a tyre place to replace them for me and what I will say is be patient - it took almost 20/30 miles before they were 'learned' by the system my initial thought was they had not worked properly.I ordered the whole thing new valves and sensors by the way there was no serial number or anything that had to be jotted down or replaced they only work off a radio signal into the car's electronics. Maybe at an OPC they can be plugged into work by the PIWIS system instantly. Edited by berty37 on Monday 14th March 08:09 I drove about 15 miles so perhaps not long enough? Suppliers said it's usually a couple of miles only. The obc said tpms inactive system learning, but nothing from that point, and when I switched off to get petrol then restart just went back to inactive. How long before your kicked in?

lingus75 said: I drove about 15 miles so perhaps not long enough? Suppliers said it's usually a couple of miles only. The obc said tpms inactive system learning, but nothing from that point, and when I switched off to get petrol then restart just went back to inactive. How long before your kicked in? I have seen it take nearly 3 hours of driving before. It should do it normally in around 20 minutes. This assumes that nothing else is wrong and all four batteries are showing a reading. PITA.

lingus75 said: I drove about 15 miles so perhaps not long enough? Suppliers said it's usually a couple of miles only. The obc said tpms inactive system learning, but nothing from that point, and when I switched off to get petrol then restart just went back to inactive. How long before your kicked in? Yes mate exactly what mine said I was really beginning to think they had either been fitted incorrectly or were the wrong type they took a real long while before the system finally learned them so persevere is all i can say as Ken above suggested as well I think mine were close to 3/4 hrs before all 4 finally came up and the warning light went out.

Thanks for the advice guys. Ken, you are right, they are a pain in the arse. usefull info on driving more, need to get some more miles on the engine anyway!

Thanks for the advice guys. Ken, you are right, they are a pain in the arse. usefull info on driving more, need to get some more miles on the engine anyway!

They work! For anyone else going through the same issue, time seems to make them work. Another 90minsnof driving and sensors recognised, light off then another few minutes and pressures show. perseverance is the key it seems.

Hi there, This is for my 2009 997 gen2 c4s I bought a set of winter wheels on eBay and then realised that I need to have the ones with the sensors on it for the tpms system. I ended up spending £350 for the i-sensors to be fitted by etyres. The guy came and first tried cloning the original sensors from the summer set but his machine can't read any signals from the original set. He went on installing the sensors with new ids. I called autogem and the guys there confirmed that the car should self learn with the new ids. I drove 20 miles tonight after choosing "set" on the tpms menu. It says learning and ended up with "tms inactive" Any ideas if isensor would work on?

I have just replaced the N|S sensors on my 987 Boxster . I went for the HUf model which do not need programing . After 20 miles the system is still learning . The onscreen TPC report still reads the pressures on the O/S tyres but blank on the left . Is there anything else to do ? I doubt its a faulty controller unit ? Thanks

Reviving this thread to get latest advice - car is 997 turbo My local tyre place is quoting £134 for each sensor, plus £24 for each valve for OEM parts So roughly £650 to replace all 4, labour wise they are jsut going to charge me £10 per wheel for the re-balance Seems pretty reasonable for OEM, are other options much cheaper? And once fitted, does anything need re-calibrating? This is important as they say if that has to be done they would have to go to local Porsche specialist who I know will charge £££

When fitted you just go into the menu and reset the TPMS there and after a short drive they should calibrate themselves

Adam B said: My local tyre place is quoting £134 for each sensor, plus £24 for each valve for OEM parts have you check parts price with an OPC?

craigjm said: When fitted you just go into the menu and reset the TPMS there and after a short drive they should calibrate themselves excellent thanks will check OPC price now - are some cheaper than others, or is it a fixed OPC price for parts?

Adam B said: excellent thanks will check OPC price now - are some cheaper than others, or is it a fixed OPC price for parts? Had mine done at local tyre place 18months ago. I bought beru (oem) sensors from tpms warehouse. Really can't remember how much but £80 I think is about right. Had them fitted and they just wouldn't talk to car. I was told about 25 mins drive should do it but it took a few 1hr drives before it was sorted and they work perfectly. Shouldn't be more than £15-£20 per wheel to fit as it's just tyre off and rebalance. Yes, it was a ball ache at first but oem sensors at less than half price opc was well worth it. Incidentally m, if you call tpms warehouse you will think it's the wrong number as it's a Chrysler dealer, but I think it's option 2 on the phone to get through to them.

Just had mine done at Protyre Portsmouth, £90 per wheel all in (including stem) with Autogem sensors. Started working after 50m drive (meters, not miles!), would recommend.

Im reviving this one from 6 years ago lol, ok Porsche drivers, where are people buying sensors from? There are lots of options at varying prices - some aftermarket and some OEM, 433HZ seems to be the important detail - i am guessing this is the frequency the sensor computer is looking for. I have part number 5Q0907275 from the dealer catalogue - quick search online shows loads of options and these as fitting VAG/Porsche/Bentley models. info from a listing on ebay - seems they are plug and play, anyone tried this kind? Key Features: 1. Monitor the tire pressure at real time, enhance vehicle safety with durability and reliability. 2. Automotive battery grade to meet severe weather conditions. 3. High-precision air valve to prevent air leakage. 4. Designed to communicate perfectly with your vehicle's TPMS module. 5. Replaceable aluminum valve stem is anodized for corrosion resistance. 6. Easy to install, no need additional hardware.