Cayman S order - Thoughts... - Page 4 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

Hi all, Have just ordered an S to replace my recently departed 997.1 C4S..... Have been deliberating long and hard over the spec, but have settled on the following. Any thoughts appreciated while I still have the opportunity to make adjustments.... Spec: White Black leather int. Park assist front and rear Elec folding mirrors Dimming mirrors and rain sensors PTV with LSD 6 speed manual Sports chrono Sports chassis 20mm lower Sports exhaust 20inch carrera s wheels painted black Cruise control Floor mats Sports seats plus Guards red seat belts Crest on headrests Gear level in alcantara Sport design steering wheel in alcantara Sound package plus Prep for mobile phone DAB PCM nav Any thoughts recommendations? Many thanks in advance!

I think your dealer will be your new best friend with that lot!

Personally I wouldn't bother with the following: PTV with LSD - Just not needed, you won't notice the car not having it. Sports chassis 20mm lower - too harsh for our roads Amazing cars!

DMC2 said: Personally I wouldn't bother with the following: PTV with LSD - Just not needed, you won't notice the car not having it. Sports chassis 20mm lower - too harsh for our roads Amazing cars! I reckon the LSD is one of the most vital options - just shows we all have different tastes!

DMC2 said: Personally I wouldn't bother with the following: PTV with LSD - Just not needed, you won't notice the car not having it. Sports chassis 20mm lower - too harsh for our roads Amazing cars! I reckon the LSD is one of the most vital options - just shows we all have different tastes!

Thanks for the responses so far! Agreed on the PTV/LSD. A performance car such as this should really have a LSD as standard! May do a bit of track work but mainly road driving. Had sport chassis on my 911 and the ride was hard, but I think it improves the stance as well as the obvious. Can live with the ride. A mate has a Cayman R which I'm assuming is similar and that is acceptable. I was told the coloured crests on the wheels is standard with this configuration, can anyone confirm?

Heated seats don't do anything for me personally! Haven't had them in any car I've ever had! Not too worried on the sound. Had Bose in my 911 and didn't rate it tbh. Think the SPP will suffice for what I need. Thanks again!

Custard Beast said: I was told the coloured crests on the wheels is standard with this configuration, can anyone confirm? Yes, I have the same wheels on my 981 Boxster S and the coloured crests came with them.

You have a similar specification to my car. I disagree that the LSD and PTV option is not required. I spent much time deliberating over it, and drove cars with and without it back to back at the Porsche Driver Experience Centre, Silverstone. As a result, I was much impressed and added to my specification, and (although many might disagree) benefit from the PTV aspect in particular routinely with spirited driving. I decided not to include Sports Chrono, because there seemed little benefit in a manual car; although it will now blip automatically the throttle on downshifts, I saw no point - and am quite able to do so myself. And, given that you've not selected the PDK option, I suspect that (like me) you want to drive your car! I agree that the sports chassis could be too hard for UK roads (although if yours is to be tracked ......); however, I also deliberated over the standard and PASM suspensions - and drove those back to back to. Consequently, I opted for PASM because the ride is undoubtedly improved whether seeking comfort or a more sporting drive (automatically too). No heated seats? Cheap and effective - and offer much on these cold days. Sound Package Plus disappointed when tested back to back with Bose. Although the latter is more expensive, the addition of rear speakers and a fader control provides a more rounded sound; the SPP seemed to be focussed in the front centre only and seemed flat. Although the car will have xenon headlights as standard, I commend to you the PDLS option which gives a number of automated modes and more powerful lights. The Smoking Package is free and adds a cover over the cubby at the rear of the centre console - and another 12v power socket. I wish that I had selected the white instrument dials because the standard fit of black speedometer and grey tachometer are difficult to read as it moves from daylight to dusk then night; the consensus of opinion is that the white dials are easier to read at all times (and I agree, having had them on 2 previous Porsche cars). Del Edited by Delbox on Saturday 30th November 22:17

Custard Beast, I've updated my comments above.

KenC said: Yes, I have the same wheels on my 981 Boxster S and the coloured crests came with them. Thanks Ken.

I didn't have the opportunity to assess the headlight options, because all my test drives were undertaken in daylight; however, the (mainly) US view - http://www.planet-9.com/981-chat/ - is that PDLS employs more powerful lights in addition to the other functions. This is underpinned, in part, by the fact that the standard xenons are not equipped with headlight washers (because they don't provide enough lumens to necessitate then to satisfy regulations) while the PDLS does have washers. Certainly, PDLS doesn't disappoint. Del

Delbox said: Custard Beast, I've updated my comments above. Del, thanks for your help! I originally had PDLS on the spec but removed it when I realised that Xenon's were standard. Can you confirm the lights are definitely more powerful? Understand the cornering function, but thought money was better spent on other things. Good tip with the smokers package, will look into this. Again originally had white dials, as I thought they looked excellent. However including the stopwatch it seemed too much money! I did want the interior carbon also but you have to draw a line somewhere! It's very easy to get a little out of control! Edited by Custard Beast on Saturday 30th November 22:38

R1nur said: I reckon the LSD is one of the most vital options - Vital for what??

I concur re smoking package. Does Cayman have climate? If not, it's worth speccing as manual switches hard to reach around gears.

DMC2 said: Personally I wouldn't bother with the following: PTV with LSD - Just not needed, you won't notice the car not having it. Sports chassis 20mm lower - too harsh for our roads Amazing cars! Have you driven a sports chassis car ? I have not , very hard to find one, but if it's any thing like the R it will be awesome . Would love to try one with sports chassis. I would def add heated seats, very cheap option and great for resale, seems daft not to spec it at the cost. With a very sporty set up though you may as well go bucket seats :-) Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 1st December 10:39

i would get (in that order): PCCB sport design wheel in alcantara buckets PDLS sports chassis PTV sport chrono sports exhaust painted wheels in black (19 inches) PTS - mint green

HokumPokum said: i would get (in that order): PCCB sport design wheel in alcantara buckets PDLS sports chassis PTV sport chrono sports exhaust painted wheels in black (19 inches) PTS - mint green Not going to add it up , but that must be over 70k , could you really do that ? With that spec you would have to wait for the GTS. Car due out.

PDSL lighting is with higher wattage bulbs than standard xenons - best light system I've ever had on a car.

PDLS is great. Climate? S

Only you know what you want but personally I would not be without PASM and PDLS.

Sounds like I need to add PDLS! Thanks for all your comments.

mrdemon said: Have you driven a sports chassis car ? I have not , very hard to find one, but if it's any thing like the R it will be awesome . Would love to try one with sports chassis. I would def add heated seats, very cheap option and great for resale, seems daft not to spec it at the cost. With a very sporty set up though you may as well go bucket seats :-) Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 1st December 10:39 I cannot find a Sport Chassis anywhere! Cayman R/my old 997 are both accpectable for an occasional car, and I like the lower look.

mrdemon said: DMC2 said: Personally I wouldn't bother with the following: PTV with LSD - Just not needed, you won't notice the car not having it. Sports chassis 20mm lower - too harsh for our roads Amazing cars! Have you driven a sports chassis car ? I have not , very hard to find one, but if it's any thing like the R it will be awesome . Would love to try one with sports chassis. I would def add heated seats, very cheap option and great for resale, seems daft not to spec it at the cost. With a very sporty set up though you may as well go bucket seats :-) Edited by mrdemon on Sunday 1st December 10:39 Yes I've driven the sports chassis. Stiffer that a Cayman R. I found it detrimental to everyday blasts on back roads.

mrdemon said: HokumPokum said: i would get (in that order): PCCB sport design wheel in alcantara buckets PDLS sports chassis PTV sport chrono sports exhaust painted wheels in black (19 inches) PTS - mint green Not going to add it up , but that must be over 70k , could you really do that ? With that spec you would have to wait for the GTS. Car due out. given what i prefer. absolutely. But the GTS may be out and I'd rather get that... then again, I'll prolly wait for the next R.

We could do with the R sooner rather than later.

DMC2 said: Yes I've driven the sports chassis. Stiffer that a Cayman R. I found it detrimental to everyday blasts on back roads. was that with 20" or 19" wheels? I reckon Sports Chassis with 19" wheels would be fine.

Don't forget the Cayman RS is coming

Bieldside said: Don't forget the Cayman RS is coming Doubt it.

Thanks for everyone's input. I've added PDLS to the spec after everyone's comments. Have the adapative lights on my everyday Merc and they are excellent, so hope these are as good. Have stuck with the sport chassis, so hope it's not too uncomfortable!! Here's to a painful couple of months of waiting! ;-)

Custard Beast said: Thanks for everyone's input. I've added PDLS to the spec after everyone's comments. Have the adapative lights on my everyday Merc and they are excellent, so hope these are as good. PDLS does not have high beam assist.

SFO said: PDLS does not have high beam assist. I did wonder, will be grateful for the brighter lights however. It's a surprisingly handy feature on the Merc, works brilliantly!

Any further comments on the Cayman LSD? I have read up about it and am persuaded that it is almost useless on track and wears out extremely quickly if used in that way. BUT, given that I am not going to track my car, is it worth seeing whether it can be retrofitted? Is it noticeable on tight, low speed corners in the wet(the only ocassions that I find the back end a bit squirmier than I might have expected)?

Does anyone have any info on the GTS or R that is due in April ?

I speced sports chrono on my 987 cayman s manual and found it a total waste of money. I quite like the look of the 'barnacle' stopwatch on the dash top, but otherwise a waste of money. Do you need to spec it to be allowed the PTV? I haven't driven a PTV/LSD Cayman, but for 2ps worth is that LSD for road use is pretty unnecessary, apart from the increased ability for donuts, flip turns and roundabout hooning. I'll leave it up to you to value how important that is (vital in my caterham, but less so in a porker IMHO). Good effort on ordering a manual rather than PDK!! Gives a good spare few grand to spend on other bits.

c7xlg said: I speced sports chrono on my 987 cayman s manual and found it a total waste of money. I quite like the look of the 'barnacle' stopwatch on the dash top, but otherwise a waste of money. Do you need to spec it to be allowed the PTV? . Have it on my Cayman R and much prefer the throttle response and slightly wider PSM envelope in 'Sport' On 981 additionally it comes with dynamic transmission mounts plus get throttle blip in 'sport plus' mode on the manual. You dont need it to have PTV but you do have to spec PASM or sport chassis to have PTV

Any updates/feedback on the Sports chassis option yet?

I would be def ticking the Suspension X73 option on a 981

Seems strange no mainstream reviews (two all too brief Boxster reports in Evo/Autocar excepted) on the X73 option on the Cayman nor any vehicles available to demo it but I assume on 19s very similar to the R - no reported issues with Eurotunnel clearance by R/Spyder owners...? (Alternatively possibly take a vanilla chassis setup and upgrade dampers if not sporting enough but then you can't order PTV so I suppose you can always order it and fit adjustable dampers/different springs if it's too hard!)

Kronstein said: Any updates/feedback on the Sports chassis option yet? My brother-in-law's father-in-law, (if that makes any sense) has the sports set-up on his new 981 S, with 20" rims and loves it. I've not had a go myself I'm afraid, but there you go - some limited feedback. He was comning from an FQ360 Evo if that gives any sense of perspective.

Actus Reus said: Kronstein said: Any updates/feedback on the Sports chassis option yet? My brother-in-law's father-in-law, (if that makes any sense) has the sports set-up on his new 981 S, with 20" rims and loves it. I've not had a go myself I'm afraid, but there you go - some limited feedback. He was comning from an FQ360 Evo if that gives any sense of perspective. Statistically (let's hope not) one will divorce, will that make him an outlaw?

Sports Chrono is a total waste on a manual car. I exactly used the "sharper" throttle setting once on my old 997.1. The clock is horrible IMHO and nobody in his right mind would use it to time laps on track.

depends what you like, I like the way PSM gives you a 10% slip angle and don't cut it at every issue the throttle map is also far better. I would not be with out it, but as you say the clock timer is daft. I drive 100% in sports mode.

Kronstein said: Statistically (let's hope not) one will divorce, will that make him an outlaw? I hope not too - I want the 981 off him in a few years once he's taken the depreciation hit - it's a perfect b-road spec, except, arguably, the 20" rims - I'd only want 19s myself. (he's got sports chassis, 20" rims, sport chrono and Spanish gearbox with not much else - and after I saw him over Xmas is investigating get a SSK for the gearbox).

My car is on the boat on the way from germany so I hope to be able to report on the sports chassis soon. I had no luck finding any info on it, but specced it on previous experience with other models. Fingers crossed it was the right choice.

Well it's here! I have to say I am chuffed to bits with the stance with Sports Chassis. Looks very low and purposeful... Can't wait till the 1st now!

Custard Beast said: Well it's here! I have to say I am chuffed to bits with the stance with Sports Chassis. Looks very low and purposeful... Can't wait till the 1st now! pics

As soon as get a good side on shot I will post it! Hope to pick up next sat!!

As soon as get a good side on shot I will post it! Hope to pick up next sat!!

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Lovely. Does look low in a "getting onto Eurotunnel at an angled approach" way but looks good. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the ride on typical b roads.

Custard Beast said: superb stance. looking forward to your driving impressions.

That looks absolutely stunning - congratulations. Any interior pics at all?

Interior shot as requested!

Right, well I did 100 miles or so yesterday so impressions are brief but fair to say I am over the moon with the car and the spec. One of the things I am most happy with is the sports chassis. The ride is firm but it is hugely better damped and less crashy than my old 997 with sports chassis. There is a bit of compliance with a sure footed planted firm feel which is what I want from an occasional sports car. In my eyes it drastically improves the stance and everyone comments on that. Clearly I'm biased but it looks fantastic. And another thing! The PSE is quite lairy! Much louder than my old 997, and noise is brilliant inside. It pops and bangs on the over run like crazy! Love it! Overall I am delighted and I can't say enough about the service at Porsche Portsmouth. They have been great! If anyone wants to know more, just say...... Cheers Nick Edited by Custard Beast on Sunday 2nd March 18:17

Right, well I did 100 miles or so yesterday so impressions are brief but fair to say I am over the moon with the car and the spec. One of the things I am most happy with is the sports chassis. The ride is firm but it is hugely better damped and less crashy than my old 997 with sports chassis. There is a bit of compliance with a sure footed planted firm feel which is what I want from an occasional sports car. In my eyes it drastically improves the stance and everyone comments on that. Clearly I'm biased but it looks fantastic. And another thing! The PSE is quite lairy! Much louder than my old 997, and noise is brilliant inside. It pops and bangs on the over run like crazy! Love it! Overall I am delighted and I can't say enough about the service at Porsche Portsmouth. They have been great! If anyone wants to know more, just say...... Cheers Nick Edited by Custard Beast on Sunday 2nd March 18:19

Love the alcantara. Got an extended test drive this weekend, can't wait!

Congrats - it looks superb and nice spec too. Good to see someone prefering a manual as well.

Here's mine, build complete late March. Coming from a Diesel Scirocco so looking forward to it. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/?c=/...

Diesel 'sports cars' make baby Jesus cry.

paralla - I like that and it will look stunning I'm sure.

paralla said: Here's mine, build complete late March. Coming from a Diesel Scirocco so looking forward to it. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/?c=/... I just took delivery of a CS very close to your spec, colour, wheels and most of your options with a few minor differences... Silver belts, Bose, full leather and ACC are main difference to yours. You'll love it. Post a pic when you get it, I'm keen to see how the monochrome rear lights look with the satin wheels.

paralla said: Here's mine, build complete late March. Coming from a Diesel Scirocco so looking forward to it. http://www.porsche.com/microsite/porsche-code/?c=/... I just took delivery of a CS very close to your spec, colour, wheels and most of your options with a few minor differences... Silver belts, Bose, full leather and ACC are main difference to yours. You'll love it. Post a pic when you get it, I'm keen to see how the monochrome rear lights look with the satin wheels.

engineermk said: Post a pic when you get it, I'm keen to see how the monochrome rear lights look with the satin wheels. Will do. I'm not sure about the rear lights either, I have never seen them on a car but hoping the darker look will work well with the dark wheels and hopefully not be too chavtastic Saxo style.

Nick Just wondering since the Cayman purchase how you are getting on with the Sports Chasiss as trying to decide on a Boxster GTS either with PASM or swap for sports chassis.

SHIFTY said: Just wondering since the Cayman purchase how you are getting on with the Sports Chasiss as trying to decide on a Boxster GTS either with PASM or swap for sports chassis. Personally I would only buy a fancy suspension if I thought the car really needed it. I drove base cars and PASM cars before deciding to hang onto my cash and buy the base suspension. For my needs it's very, very good. The cars only have fairly limited torque (by modern standards) and that is IMO the biggest limiting factor on Boxster/Cayman's real-world performance.

Sorry for the late reply. Getting on well with the SC. It is very firm, but I find it perfectly acceptable and am glad I chose it. As I've said before the improvement in stance is very noticeable and welcome. Hope this helps!

Collected mine last week, here's a couple of pics. I think the smoked rear lights work well with the matte platinum wheels

Yep, the smoked rear lights look excellent.

Is the sports suspension creating any issues with speed bumps or similar please?

paralla said: Whoever made that rear number plate should be taken out and shot! Why are all the characters squeezed up at the left hand end?

Ozzie Osmond said: Whoever made that rear number plate should be taken out and shot! Why are all the characters squeezed up at the left hand end? You're clearly not from the UK then? There are 7 digits in a UK registration, the last 3 have been blanked out in order for privacy (cloning of number plates on stolen cars)

... or maybe it is already stolen...

I can confirm it's not stolen. Nobody would want it. No buckets, no X73, PDK. Completely wrong spec, practically worthless. Edited by paralla on Wednesday 20th August 15:01

I fully understand... looks good for a worthless piece of junk...

paralla said: I can confirm it's not stolen. Nobody would want it. No buckets, no X73, PDK. Completely wrong spec, practically worthless. Edited by paralla on Wednesday 20th August 15:01 I'll take it off your hands for hundred quid and I'm doing you a favour.

A hundred and twenty five, and not a pound more