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Fill bushings and they dry out or leak quite quickly

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Apparently, Porsche gave the part to a low bidder who did a lousy job of selecting the grease-filled bushings and they dry out or leak quite quickly.

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Adjust by an alignment shop

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also, if you're replacing a rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt before you loosen the lower control arm, otherwise you'll need to have your camber adjusted by an alignment shop.

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Adjust by an alignment shop

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also, if you're replacing a rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt before you loosen the lower control arm, otherwise you'll need to have your camber adjusted by an alignment shop.

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Replace ball joint

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Unfortunately, you cant just replace the ball joint.

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Replace control arm without removing the drive shaft

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you CAN replace the control arm WITHOUT removing the drive shaft.

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Replace lower control arms

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Both my mechanic and a different shop owner have told me they rountinely replace the lower control arms on the front ends of our cars and 996's (which are the same).

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also, if you're replacing a rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt before you loosen the lower control arm, otherwise you'll need to have your camber adjusted by an alignment shop.

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Fill bushings and they dry out or leak quite quickly

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Apparently, Porsche gave the part to a low bidder who did a lousy job of selecting the grease-filled bushings and they dry out or leak quite quickly.

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Replace ball joint

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Unfortunately, you cant just replace the ball joint.

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Replace control arm without removing the drive shaft

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you CAN replace the control arm WITHOUT removing the drive shaft.

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Replace lower control arms

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Suggestion · Original poster

Both my mechanic and a different shop owner have told me they rountinely replace the lower control arms on the front ends of our cars and 996's (which are the same).

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Replace rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt

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also, if you're replacing a rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt before you loosen the lower control arm, otherwise you'll need to have your camber adjusted by an alignment shop.

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Replace with an oem control arm....particularly

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Instead of replacing with an OEM control arm....particularly after you've replaced two....have you looked into a performance or racing application control arm that includes hiem joints/greasable zerk fitted bushings, etc.?

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Use race-designed control arms

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I do not believe they use race-designed control arms on our cars as of yet.

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Use special tool

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Hans did use a special tool to break the ball joint free of the hub, and when putting it back on, he took a second floor jack and lifted the control arm up and bolted it in.

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Use torx

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you can use a torx to hold it, but this is a pain.

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The part was $273.00 with shipping, so I got it fixed for 353.00.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Both my mechanic and a different shop owner have told me they rountinely replace the lower control arms on the front ends of our cars and 996's (which are the same). Apparently, Porsche gave the part to a low bidder who did a lousy job of selecting the grease-filled bushings and they dry out or leak quite quickly. I had a new control arm put in the front driver's side 18 months ago and it has now gone out in less than 10k miles. The part alone is $265, plus a couple hours of labor. Has anyone else had control arms go bad on them "prematurely" or repeatedly? How many miles should I be getting out of a control arm, anyway? In all my other cars, I have NEVER replaced a control arm, even when I've put far more miles on the car. (BTW, I have not done any suspension work to the car—it's all factory.) Which leads me to ask yet another question... could a worn strut cause a control arm to wear rapidly? My mechanic says my front struts are fine and not to replace them yet, but I have 94k on the car and if I'm going to have the control arm replaced, should I go ahead and have the front struts done while I am at it just to be on the safe side? Any input, even theory or conjecture would be appreciated.

POST 2Original post

Hi Randall, Interesting situation.....I have never heard about something like that. Instead of replacing with an OEM control arm....particularly after you've replaced two....have you looked into a performance or racing application control arm that includes hiem joints/greasable zerk fitted bushings, etc.? If you've looked into it, how much do they cost, etc.? KRZ

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i THINK (correct me if i'm wrong) that randall's referring to the ball joint. unfortunately, the boot is manufactured as a part of the control arm and is not replaceable. the joints dry out and start to knock. i think this can happen more quickly if the car is lowered, as the ball joint angle is more severe under normal driving conditions. it would be nice if there were an aftermarket supplier who manufactured a ball / boot that could be pressed into the control arms, but at this point, there aren't any. Randall - what are your symptoms? 10K miles indicates some other problem (or a mechanic that tore the boot on installation of your part). these should last at least 80K miles. worn struts won't accelerate wear on your control arms. also, FYI, the control arms that wear most commonly are the rear uppers. the bushings wear and begin to knock slightly when you hit bumps.

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Actually, the bushings and seals can be opened, repacked and closed again, but Porsche doesn't recommend this... they'd make no money doing that. The shop that said they replace them all the time is a race-specific shop. My car was one of the only non race-dedicated Porsches in the shop at the time. I do not believe they use race-designed control arms on our cars as of yet. I could be all wrong on that, but if they did have better ones I am sure he'd have told me about them to sell me a pair... this shop owner is a sharp business man.

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Insite, in both instances, it has been steel on aluminum sqeaking coming from where one part seats into the ball joint and that's what goes. Here's a pic of what I have to replace:

POST 6Original post

Just curious, why did you have to replace them again? Was the car pulling or not able to take an alignment. I was wondering if my ball joints are worn... I feel like my front end has too much play in it. When I hit some bumps here and there, the wheel shudders or the car bump steers. I dont think I have a bad strut, but I havent inspected them. Unfortunately, you cant just replace the ball joint. Any insight?

POST 7Original post

the ball joint is made of steel and the control arm is made of aluminum. between the two, there is a nylon bushing that prevents squeaking. it wears out and the arm squeaks like crazy. randall - with regard to race-bread versions, the GT3 control arms are race-specific, but i don't think the ball joints are different (just the mounting point / shimmable length).

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Audioguy, it's the squeaking. It's horribly loud and really embarassing to boot. Moreover, if left as it is, it can wear other parts out and cause a dangerous situation while driving, so I gotta get it fixed asap.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My replacement control arm is somewhere in the UPS system and I would like someone with some knowledge to tell me if I can do this myself. Looks like three bolts to remove and to replace it. I have a floor jack, I'll buy the tools if I don't already own them, and I have lots of energy... can I do this or could I cause substantial suspension problems by not being experienced in trying to replace it myself? My mechanic will want 2 hours labor to do it and I'll gladly pay it, but if it's a no brainer and I should attempt this, someone should let me know one way or another.

POST 10Original post

it's cake, but i HIGHLY reccommend purchasing a ball joint press (NOT a pickle fork). you can find them on ebay for around $25. without it, you run a high risk of tearing the ball joint boot (which may be why yours failed again so quickly). basically, you undo the upper control arm bolt from the center of the lower control arm. then, loosen the bolt that fastens the lower arm to the suspension cradle. press out the ball joint. remove the lower control arm bolt. reverse to install. when installing, the ball joint will want to turn in the steering knuckle. you can use a torx to hold it, but this is a pain. since the ball joint pin is tapered, if you tap the ball joint into the steering knuckle with a hammer, it will stop turning so you can tighten it. also, if you're replacing a rear, mark the location of the eccentric bolt before you loosen the lower control arm, otherwise you'll need to have your camber adjusted by an alignment shop. fronts are easer since the drive shaft's not in the way. you CAN replace the control arm WITHOUT removing the drive shaft. the fronts take about 30 min. rears, 45min - 1hr.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Because of the tools required, I chickened out and took the car to Hans, my trusty mechanic. He swapped out the control arm in 40 minutes for $80. The part was $273.00 with shipping, so I got it fixed for 353.00. Not cheap but not nearly the $880.00 my dealer quoted me last time it went out... 4 hour book rate @ $100 an hour and $480 for the part! Absurd. Hans did use a special tool to break the ball joint free of the hub, and when putting it back on, he took a second floor jack and lifted the control arm up and bolted it in. (Insite, it did require him to turn the wheel a little and wrestle it to get it to go into place properly.) You can tell he's done it a hundred times or more. I noticed this job requires two sets of the same sized wrench... so buying all the wrenches needed to get it done right plus that tool makes it an expensive learning experience. On the way home, I drove it nice and hard to enjoy my newfound HP and torque and lovely exhaust note, something I have not felt the freedom to do with a worn control arm squeaking as loudly as the radio at times. Hans says he did not move anything that would require me to get an alignment. Should I do it anyway just to be safe?

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