996 Production Numbers: Slicing and dicing

I wanted to get more insight to the 996 production, using the data that is commonly around. There are sometimes discussions or questions about the future values, and the numbers will play a role. Here is what I see: Note: Coupe = Total - Cabs - Targas Not shown: Mk1 = 85,556. Mk2 = 89,608 (about equal) Note: C4 = (All 4s) - C4S The Excel sheet is attached for those who would like to dig in. The header row simply keys off of the row name (Mod�le) so other totals can quickly be created. A few of my observations ('cause it will hopefully cause the intended result: discussion). - The ME and AE are likely good long term investments. - Those two models and the C4S will stick out as "special" and always have a higher value. The Targa will probably not; those will be kinda like the early 911 Sportomatic. - Of course Turbos will always be highly desirable, but a lot were produced so they will hardly be considered rare. - Because of the very large number produced, on almost all of them, the condition of the car will be a much higher factor compared to rarity. So keep yours in excellent condition at all times. - I wonder what caused the dip in 2000? - I don't have the exact data, but believe I've read that for a first few years more Cabs were sold in the US than Coupes. - If I were investing for the long term, my choice would be the GT3. I searched a bit, but could not find any data about the US export quantities. If you know of a source, please let me know.

No C2 ???

2000....dot.com bubble

2000 - fire at the existing production plant, or something like that. Ask Jake.

There is some interesting data in the "earliest cars" thread. I think the numbers you have in the bar chart are for model year. Apparently, the 14 1997 models were pre-production cars. The 1998s were built beginning in early fall (around October) 1997 and registered in Europe, most of them as 1998s through calendar year 1998. The rollout of the 1999 models in the US was in April 1998. My car was built in March 1998, titled in May 1998 in South Carolina as a 1999 model year. Since the production run of 1999 models started so early, that may account for the lower number of 2000 models. Dot Com bubble could have had something to do with it. The 2005 models would be the Turbo and C4S built in late 2004/early 2005. Please correct me if I am wrong. Also, Europe kept proportionally more coupes than the US, resulting in cabs being a little more common over here than the coupes.

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Good point, the previous chart treated C2 as "the rest". Here is an update, calculated as C2 = Total - (all the other categories). But there is where the slicing and dicing comes in, what is the definition of "C2", since perhaps the ME and AE are also labelled C2 ... or not?

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I added the totals and got 175,164 996s produced. 87,734 varieties including the millennium and 40av, but excluding the C2. This leaves 87,430 "regular" C2s.

Good analysis. I hope most of us here are not 'collectors' and are actually out enjoying this fine automobile.

I understood targa's were comparatively rare...and these stats seem to confirm. I don't necessarily expect that to translate into future collect-ability...especially not mine as I drive to enjoy it.

Splitting Atoms: This is the info normally accepted for MY2005 production: 728 4S Coupe 763 4S Cabs 201 Carrera Cab 276 GT3 122 Turbo 18 GT2 129 Targa 90 GT3 Cup 127 Turbo Cab 598 Turbo S 960 Turbo S Cab

This is great data, thanks for sharing

any *'s regarding the X51 cars, other than 40thAE ? I remember seeing it being as about 1% of all production

The dip in 2000 came from many 2000 models being produced early, and then being sold as 1999 models to fill orders for first year cars.

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The data shows the cars platform not specific options so that data won't be as easy to find or compare by year.

here are some numbers. Not in a fancy chart though. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ntQ/edit#gid=0

Are these figures all production, or only US sales?

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Yes, it is worldwide production. Haven't seen the US export totals, but if anybody has a lead on where to find those numbers that would be good.

Don't know if this is accurate or not, but: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html

Hello,

Hello, I have a 2004 4S 996 Cabriolet w/ a manual six speed. Does anyone know how many of these were built? I was told this is somewhat of a rare car, but I just like driving it and I have no idea if it's unique. Thank you-

Question: is it possible to have a USA spec 1998 996? Im working on a car's window sticker and trying to solve this riddle. The owner registered it with the My Porsche portal and the report from there indicates its indeed a 996310 car (C2 Cabriolet) and for model year 1998. It also lists what you'd describe as the proper paint/interior codes and engine type/size. The VIN is North American and PCNA said it was sold by a USA dealer which I have. But here's the whammy: its registered as a 1999 car in the domicile state and CarFax says its a 1999. It had a salvage title issued in 2000 -- I think this is what's causing much of the confusion in all of this. The car looks and appears as a 1999 -- I dont think you could even convert a 993 to a 996 could you (weren't they apples and oranges)? The option code sticker was half torn under the hood but it has the 996310 and proper VIN. This is a real mystery. Never run into this before. I think its probably a 1999 and maybe the Porsche data on their back end server is just misrepresenting it as a 1998. I thought no 1998s were sold in the USA. Any insight?

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Yes and no. in 1998, you could purchase a MY 1999 996. I can only think that in the US market, PCNA did not want to confuse customers buy having both a MY 1998 993 and a MY1998 996, so they just designated all 996s to be MY1999. I have a 02/98 build 996 that was delivered to the first buyer 04/98. It is a MY 1999 per the documentation.

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That's what Im thinking too. I have never seen a 1998 996 Monroney and was never aware of 1998 model year cross pollenation of 993s and 996s like in 1989 when you could still get G-series 911s and the new 964. I also saw this thread that talked about this same conundrum: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...in-1998-a.html I just dont know why in Porsche's database they are considering it a model year 1998 car. It has a June 1998 production date. If your February car was deemed a MY1999, then this one has to follow suit as well.

My 3/98 build 996 showed in my Porsche dealer's system as a 1998. FWIW.

There are thousands of 1998 996's outside of the US. I have one. The 996 was sold in the US as a MY99 even though you could get them in Europe as a MY98. Mine has a build date of 12/97.

Hi, just finding this thread. Bought a 2003 996 turbo last week. Interested in this--and going deeper. Did anyone find US stats (earlier than the one posted)? Going even deeper, has any one seen stats by exterior color or even exterior/interior color combo. OK, I know I'm going over the top :-) Thanks!

Not often talked about but there are approximately the same number of 996 Turbo Manual Coupes as there are 996 GT's (which are all Manual Coupes) worldwide ('bout 7,500 ea.). So before you sell the farm for a GT, remember the standard 996 Turbo Manual Coupe is just as rare as the 996 GT's, and still a relative bargain.

The 996.2 facelift numbers in this workbook only lists cars for 2002 onwards, however some 996.2 cars were definitely produced & sold in 2001. It would be interesting to know how many

All 2001 996 Turbos are 996.2 cars, so there's at least those cars.

Nevermind, after chatting with a friend & mulling it over I think we've figured it out. We've concluded the numbers listed as 2002, are for model year 2002 (as listed on the vin) which runs from July 2001- June 2002, so this would include all of the 996.2 cars built in calendar year 2001, with roughly 520 C2's built per month OR roughly 3124 during calendar year 2001.

Ex Pat here living in the USA, the difference here with all new cars is, you can obtain next years car this year. so people buy and take delivery on their new car for say 2023, as early as mid 2022. that has been the case for a long time, ANDDDD when you look at the build plate on the car it will say a production date of the month/year previous to its "Model Year" My wife ordered her BMW Z4 in August of 2021 and its a 2022 model year, when you trade these cars in or sell them they are listed as the model year not the production year. this does vary by manufacturer some release the build allotment as early as April the previous year, so you can have two cars both model year 2002 one made in 2001 and the other made in 2002.

@911Syncro , thanks for the thread. Always good to slice and dice the production numbers.