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In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value

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YOUR RESEARCHIn-dash nav systems do damage to resale value

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In fact the more optioned a car is the more likely the depreciation is going to be greater in comparison to the same model year lightly optioned car (the problem is compounded on cars like MB and Porsche which have option list a mile long with many being extremely expensive).

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value
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Use nav

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The fact is that we need some way to navigate when we travel, and even in our home towns there is an occasion to find alternate routes using the NAV.

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value
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depreciation is going

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In fact the more optioned a car is the more likely the depreciation is going to be greater in comparison to the same model year lightly optioned car (the problem is compounded on cars like MB and Porsche which have option list a mile long with many being extremely expensive).

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value

Use nav

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The fact is that we need some way to navigate when we travel, and even in our home towns there is an occasion to find alternate routes using the NAV.

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value
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Use nav

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The fact is that we need some way to navigate when we travel, and even in our home towns there is an occasion to find alternate routes using the NAV.

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value
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compounded

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Suspected cause

In fact the more optioned a car is the more likely the depreciation is going to be greater in comparison to the same model year lightly optioned car (the problem is compounded on cars like MB and Porsche which have option list a mile long with many being extremely expensive).

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value

depreciation is going

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Suspected cause

In fact the more optioned a car is the more likely the depreciation is going to be greater in comparison to the same model year lightly optioned car (the problem is compounded on cars like MB and Porsche which have option list a mile long with many being extremely expensive).

In-dash nav systems do damage to resale value
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POST 1Original post

http://tinyurl.com/23bvxd and orginal here: http://tinyurl.com/2ov29o A new trend?

POST 2Original post

PCM offers features (besides Nav) you just cannot get otherwise. I don't believe this issue would affect any Porsche. I got PCM for MP3 CD support as much as for Nav.

POST 3Original post

While it is true, its not going to have the latest marketing widgets in it, it will still get you from Point A to point B ... its not like the lats/longs are going to change and the maps are all done by the same company.

POST 4Original post

I admit that the NAV is something one could do without, but lets face it so are cell phones, Blackberrys, pagers, Palm and iPods. The fact is that we need some way to navigate when we travel, and even in our home towns there is an occasion to find alternate routes using the NAV. It is more efficient than a map and probably safer too. Regarding the portable units, I used a Garmin GPS 76CSx in Europe last year and it was a life saver when I became lost in Geneva. But that unit, as are all other portable units, is so small that using the screen becomes a safety hazard, especially if alone (or the wife is asleep, as usual) or at night. One thing I like about the larger screen and therefore map in the integrated unit (including the ability to place directions into the center dash screen in the instrument cluster) is that it affords audio and viewing of visual information with greater safety than any portable unit can. There is no degree of difference in depreciation that will counter having a safer driving experience. BTW: does anyone know how often Porsche updates their map sets?

POST 5Original post

I love my Garmin Nuvi 660 for times when I'm out of my area. The fact that you can download POI’s like speed cameras/red light cameras is a real plus since they are updated frequently and are free or cheap. If you don't plan on keeping the car very long then technology will not get too far ahead of you but if you intend to keep the car for 5-10 years then the factory unit will be handicapped in the future as will my current Garmin . What an attractive business plan the GPS sellers have. It is more than lat/long.

POST 6Original post

I was looking at this new one from Porsche Design P96 11 SAT NAV http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/06/porsche-designs-p9611-sat-nav-is-real-coming-november/

POST 7Original post

Oh great! I was hoping for the Porsche 9'611 to be out by summer '07, now it looks they've pushed it out to November. Maybe the Garmin Nuvi 660 will be the nav for me.

POST 8Original post

This isn’t anything new. IMO the title of this thread and the article is a little misleading, because the article bases the concept of "hurting" resale on a comparison of the used prices as a % of MSRP (essentially depreciation of that particular car). Using this analysis, then almost any and all options "hurt" resale (especially in the world of expensive Porsche options). Essentially the article is looking at depreciation of the option of a built in NAV system. There is no question the depreciation is greater. In fact the more optioned a car is the more likely the depreciation is going to be greater in comparison to the same model year lightly optioned car (the problem is compounded on cars like MB and Porsche which have option list a mile long with many being extremely expensive). Look at areo kits, leather options, etc, all are expensive and all don’t add much of anything to the bottom line of the used car prices. PCCB could easily prove to cause an even bigger “hurt” on resale than NAV under this type of analysis. The fact there are many easy to obtain, less expensive, aftermarket alternatives (that continue to improve yearly) to factory installed NAV systems (which are basically not up dated and are expensive options) only magnifies this comparison.

POST 9Original post

I agree completely with Bet (Brian). I just purchased my CS with 8200 miles on it from a dealer for $15k off the original sticker. The $10k in options on the car didn't really do anything for the overall value. Options, other than the most popular and necessary ones, are just one person's opinion of what they like in the car at the time of purchase. The same can be said for PASM as can be for a factory NAV system - great to have but not necessary and I'm not gonna pay more for it. I also think it depends on what your plans are for your car - do you plan to keep it for a long time or is it a short term meant for resale? If it's the former, who cares about resale? Get whatever you want. If it's the latter, well then resale value may be something you want to consider. If it's a lease - again, who cares about resale - all you need to concern yourself with it montly payment and what you're getting for it. Personally my Garmin Nuvi is everything I could need in a Nav system.

POST 10Original post

Ummm... there is that large lake'sh looking sort of thing and Mt. Blanc.

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