It's official - the new 991.2 gt3 has 4.0 NA engine, manual transmission, 500 hp! Will kick *** no doubt.
What do you think will happen with the MT GT3 prices?
I think maybe a 10-20% "correction" as I think the new GT3s will go for well over 200k even approaching 300k in some cases
I think 991.1 gt3 prices will finally start to depreciate
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991.1 GT3 MSRP was $130,400. Why would they be over 200K? That's more than the current 991R. On what basis would they make a 70K jump in price?
991.2 gt3 msrp is around $145k. Add a few options plus dealer mark up and 200k easy. I have a feeling some builds with mark up might approach 300k numbers. Scary. The 991.1 gt3 was getting around $30k dealer mark up in Southern California and the RS were getting $100k mark ups when they came out
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So don't buy in CA. GT3 and other cars are shipped around the country all the time. There is a big list on RL somewhere where dealers who sell at MSRP are listed. Besides, its probably to late anyway. People got on lists at the beginning of the last cycle, around 2012. They don't wait until annoucements. That was the problem with the GT4. Cayman buyers didn't understand that.
Buy out of state. If you look at the GT3 auctions from after the fire, those prices are in a RL thread. Avg car was round $150 - 155 but some were stripped at 135 or so. The final price is up to you. Don't buy from a dealer that marks up. Your choice.
A high percentage of folks who really want a 991.2 GT3 had their name on a list or made a deposit long ago. Like the GT4 and the GT3 RS, the smart buyers got in early and snagged a car at MSRP. The new GT3 isn't a numbered car, and while highly desirable it isn't "special" in the way a 911 R is. Still, while the car is new and in high demand scumbag dealers will ask for markups on the new GT3 and fools will pay the price for not thinking ahead.
To answer the the original question, I think the availability of a 6-speed in the new GT3 might moderately impact the prices of 997 GT3s, but won't cause anything near to a collapse in that market. Someone who wants a two-generation old GT3 isn't the same buyer looking for a new car; a 997 GT3 buyer would be looking for a ride with some of the old school charm - a little more raw, a little more difficult to drive at the limit, and that sweet, communicative steering rack - that the new cars are lacking.
Good advice Chows! I've bought 9 Porsches and 8 were not from my in-state Porsche dealer. The only one was a Boxster S i custom ordered in late 1999, when i lucked into an open allocation locally for no premium. The 986S were hot sellers the first year or 2. Most Porsche buyers today will look in a radius of 1000-2000 miles.
I think it will affect GT3 prices, the 997.1 GT3 will go down back to mid 70's before skyrocketing to over $100K when the 991 GT3 came out with PDK only. It's no longer the last of the MT's GT3. The 991 GT3 will go down because it's PDK only, those who wants a MT GT3 will try to move to the new 991.2 GT3. 991 GT3 has engine issues from the beginning, many people who have the $150K to spend on it is weary of it's reliability. The demand will no longer be there for the 991.1 GT3's.
Just another opinion: I also think demand will drop slightly for the 997 and 991.1 GT3s. I dont see a price collapse, but a little softening. It is said that Porsche factory people have admitted that the 991.2 GTS with its high torque can beat a 991.1 GT3 on the "Ring" if shod with the same tires & wheels the GT3 uses. The same can be said for the 991.2 C2S versus the 997 GT3s. The 991.2 models will probably pull a few more buyers from the existing GT3s. Then again, there is some latent demand for existing GT3s in guys like me, who value them as ultimate driving machines, who might step up and buy if there is some price softness.
