I swapped Pagid Blues in last night. Went well, but I have the following questions.
Front calipers obviously have backing plates between the pad and the pistons. But rear calipers did not. The OEM Porsche pads had a thin metal plate glued onto the OEM pad. Would anyone recommend moving it over? I do not have high temp glue which would be needed, and also the dimples in the rear of the pad would not match. I installed the rear Pagid blues without any backing plates. That means that portions of the caliper piston are not resting against a flat surface, rather a dimple (indent) in the back of the pad. I am pretty sure that most of the picston has a flat surface to work against. Has anyone done this before, what did you do? What would you recommend?
getting ready for Pagid Orange swap
In messaging with Rennstore ... the thin plates are the AS or anit-squell... and are not used for the Pagid pads. I have Pagid Orange on order and will be swapping them out for my next track day, in May... so I hope my swapout goes as well.
Any comments or ?? e.g.... how easy was it to remove the OEM pads and their AS plates (the thin plates)?? Easy to tie up the wear warning wires?
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I have not....but I would say that if over 75% of each piston is making "flat contact" it should be fine w/o shims.
OK, that makes me feel good.
As to the swap, pulling the front pads out was harder than I expected. I kept looking for another bolt that was holding them down. But once I knew that force was needed - force was applied. I highly recommend using a philips screw driver to loosen the two rotor bolts, and wiggle the rotor a little to pushe the pistons back.
Pulling the wear sensors from front pads requires also more force than anyone would imagine, I was throwing mine out - so force was ok. They come out away from the pad, they do not slide out. You will see what I mean. (Slide out would be in the direction of you - as you are working on them, they come out away from teh pad in the direction of the fender or door.)
Tying wires together was easy, need good electric tape and 4 zip ties. Also wires are thin, so I used a knife to stripe them as my electric tools did not work.
I do recommend anti squeal pads on the Pagids, and if you have time get the stickies that someone else recommended. ("Weltmeister") They are not loud, but this morning I have heard the rear pads few times.
I also pried one of the metal anti-squel shims off, and used it as bushing when pushing the pistons back into the caliper. You need to do that, to insert the Pagid pads. Do not force the pads in, you can damage the piston seal.
First caliper took 60 minutes, and the remaining four took another 60 minutes.
Now, that I have done this once and the wires are tied... I guess brake pad changes will take 45 minutes at most. And that is when using jack stands. EZ-Lift would just make this painless. And I will probably get one.
